Who uses Falcons to hunt rabbits?

Been a falconer for 33 years now, never been into big hawks and falcons, always hunted with small predators, but I can appreciate the larger predators. Much easier to keep a Hawk/Falcon in shape as compared to a hunting dog.... And I've had pointing dogs, beagles, and coonhounds.
 
I've been a falconer for 27 years- 17tac has me beat there!

Am going after a young prairie falcon in the next few weeks. Have two nests under observation and just waiting for the chicks to get the right size.

One comment- you typically use hawks to take rabbits and falcons to take birds. In some places, the rules are bent- taking jacks with a saker or prairie and ducks with a goshawk or Harris- but as a general rule it's hawks = bunnies and falcons = birds.
 
Thats pretty neat!

How you raise em after you snatch from a nest?

What happens to the others you dont take from the nest?

Does the mom abandon them because of human scent on the nest?

Never really put hard thought about where people get the raptors?

Kinda assumed they were orphans or captive bred, I guess?
 
Originally Posted By: Black_Wolf
How you raise em after you snatch from a nest?

What happens to the others you dont take from the nest?

Does the mom abandon them because of human scent on the nest?

Never really put hard thought about where people get the raptors?

Kinda assumed they were orphans or captive bred, I guess?

Just like you raise them anyhow. You feed 'em and then start training them. I worked for The Peregrine Fund for a summer and spent more time hanging around and I remember looking at 6 Mauritius Kestrel chicks at the time when there were only about 8 birds left in the world. Feeding and caring for chicks is something we've got down. Besides, I get mine when they're almost ready to leave the nest and they're 100% capable of ripping their own food up, believe me!

Nothing. The parents come back and feed them, sometimes as soon as you leave. It should be noted that around 70% of raptor die in their first year- starvation, other predators, shot, collision, etc. By taking one, feeding it, and hunting with it, you almost guarantee its survival for that critical 1st year.

The "human scent" thing is a myth. Hawks and falcons aren't scent-oriented animals (vultures are, but the only thing human scent does there is make them lick their chops). What you DO have to watch for is that raccoons or etc don't follow your scent to a nest tree. Some guys put sheet metal around a tree or use mothballs. But in the case of a prairie falcon, I'm rappelling over a cliff. If a coon follows me, he's bringing his own rope.

There are 3 main ways to get a raptor: captive bred, chick, or a 1st year bird that has left the nest. They all have their pros/cons. If you get the chick (captive or wild) young, they will imprint on humans. This results in a very tame bird that can be really molded, training-wise, but also one that be aggressive toward humans (territorial defense). The 1st year bird already has experience hunting and will usually maintain a good degree of "wildness". If you take a wild bird, it's very common to fly them for a year or two or three and then let them go. I've had two of my released birds trapped by biologists (which I used to be) YEARS after their release. One was a Harris Hawk that was documented as raising 3 broods of young.

The reason I'm getting a late chick is because I can have it flying and killing by late July. When duck season starts up in September, I can be ready to go. If I trap a bird, I can't do that UNTIL Sept and won't have it flying until Oct. I have a short, highly weather-dependent duck season here (ponds freeze, ducks move on) and it's critical to get rolling. I'll fly this one over the winter and cut it loose in the spring.

And, of course, all of the above requires permits and licenses galore.

 
Wow, thanks for the answer!

I never knew??

Sounds like alot of work..

Hope ya get a good one for all the effort.

Yep, knew bout the licenses.

We have Falconry season here too and ya got to have a license, just like any other hunting.

You have to call the DEP for a price, so that tells me right there it's expensive
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Originally Posted By: Black_WolfSounds like alot of work..


It's a ton of work and that's why I haven't been real active for the past 13 years or so. I've been busy raising human babies but my youngest is now 6 and is showing real enthusiasm, so we're gonna pick it up again.
 
My favorite falconry videos are the ones of the wolves being taken by birds(don't know, and don't want to offend) in Middle/Far East
 
Originally Posted By: DustMy favorite falconry videos are the ones of the wolves being taken by birds(don't know, and don't want to offend) in Middle/Far East

Golden eagles in Mongolia.

Be wary of switching camera angles on some of those. When the wolf is running at the camera ask yourself "How did he get that footage?" A lot of videos are spliced together pieces of action that don't really reflect reality. Look for the ones where you can see the bird/quarry in the frame the whole time. I mean, they DO hunt wolves and foxes with golden eagles, but it's not quite as picturesque as the videos sometimes make it out to be.
 
Very rare to see anyone using true falcons (genus falco) for ground prey species here in North America, preferred hawks are Buteos, Eagles and some Accipiters, Falcons take a beating feather-wise trying to restrain the variety of ground species we have... A pain in the butt to imp feathers.
I found it easier to keep a hawk in shape than it is a hunting dog (pointers/coonhounds, etc).
 
I use to have a friend that had hawks and we would go hunt rabbits with them, it was the most exciting rabbit hunting I have ever done. I wish I had the time to have my own but I don't know enough about birds to train one and I already have to many hobbies.
 
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