Why aren't short/s.short magnum cartriges more popular?

Well, I'll hang around for a few more years and see where the WSM popularity ends up.

I don't have anything against the WSM but I don't buy into the hype that they use less powder, are super accurate and better than any other magnum in their class.

Reality is the wheel has been reinvented.
 
i have a 300 wsm and i like it, but it is NOT a short action 300 win mag. the wsm does just fine with 150's and 165's but get into the heavier bullets and it starts to fade against the 300 win mag.

i had a 223 wssm, got rid of it. would not feed if more than one round was in the mag (model 70). brass life was horrible, got no where near listed velocities with imr 4350 and was experiencing high pressure signs. bullets would deform when seating, brass is expensive. i will take my 22-250 over a 223 wssm any day of the week.
 
Originally Posted By: CatShooterOriginally Posted By: Mike B




It is a myth - no cartridge will give you the same velocity with less powder.



I don't understand what that statement is that saying. one paticular cartridge can't be more efficient than another? In comparing the WSM hogdon lists the 7mm remington mag at 2800 fps with 68 grains of retumbo and they also list the 7mm WSM at 2800 fps with only 64 grains of retumbo then the 7mm STW is at 2819fps with 72 grains of retumbo. All with 175 grain bullets. So i don't understand what you mean!!!
 
I purchased a 7mmSaum with a Manlicher stock from the Remington custom shot when it was first released. The only load available at the time was the factory round with 160gr partition. It shot okay and served me well on that trip to Africa. It did have and still has feeding issues which has ultimately forced Remington to no longer offer it in that particular model. Not enough space in the Model 7 mag well. I currently load it with 150 gr Nosler Bt and absolutely love it. Last years Elk fell over at the shot. Bullet exited the animal, range 220 yds.
Based on my experience I view the short case excitement as another way to sell rifles. I do like the ability to reload off the shoulder although I also shoot a 264WinMag and don't have any issues with the belt. Ditto with the 300 WinMag so I think it comes down to what you are crazy about. in the end its all about bullet placement.
The bigger issue centers around component availability. Prior to his retirement from Remington Keith Dye strongly suggested I stock up on Brass to avoid any issues down the road. I told Keith I already had a good stash.
 
Back
Top