Will it take a magnum?

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coyotegetter

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Hey all,

I'm new to the forum and I'm excited to learn all I can. I have a Savage 340d in .222 cal. I was told they make .222 magnum bullets ( fatter than usual I believe). How do I know that my gun accepts this bullet? Or am I wrong about this info? Thanks ahead of time all.
 
yes they make a 222 magnum, it is not the same as a 222 rem. but they both shoot the same "bullets". the hull is what is different
 
If it is a 222 Magnum, it should say 222 magnum on the side of the barrel. If it does not say mag. or magnum on the barrel then it is a standard 222. Reguardless, never mix ammunition. If there is any doubt , take the gun to a local gun shop and have them explain it in detail.
 
CoyoteGetter......this just scares the CRAP out of me!

Man, be EXTREMELY CAREFUL what you put into your weapon. The wrong ammo will ruin your day. Like was suggested above.....read the barrel for the proper ammunition for your rifle. THEN, take it with you to a local gun shop ( NOT WalMart ) and get the sales people to advise you further. Make SURE you know as much about your weapon as possible before you make a huge boo-boo.

Any of you guys got any photos of blown-up barrels that you can post here?
 
No pics, but just heard a horror story from the local Gander Mtn. two days ago. I really can't believe this goes on, but it DEFINITELY does. I knew better when I was 10yrs. old. I also took hunter's safety when I was 9. Believe it or not, it seems to be the older guys, who were never required to take hunter's safety, that have these "problems". I'm against any kind of new gun laws, but dammit, do us all a favor and know how to use the thing before you consider picking it up and loading it--2MG
 
Welcome to the board yotegetter!

The bullets are the same in both the .222 and .222 mag. However, you are not going to be able to chamber a .222 mag in your .222 rifle because the overall length of the mag is 1.850" and the .222 is 1.750. You may be able to chamber a .222 in a .222 mag chamber. I am not fimilar with a Savage 340D but to the best of my knowledge Savage never chambered a rifle for .222 mag.
 
Ya but I ant posting them. You guy will pick on me.
When you see what a 308 shot from a 7mag will do

Lets just say I had face x-rays and 6 stitches in my index finger that was laying across the gun under the front of the scope.

Only shoot what the gun tells you to shoot if it don’t say mag then I wouldn’t shoot mags
 
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Ya but I ant posting them. You guy will pick on me.
When you see what a 308 shot from a 7mag will do

Lets just say I had face x-rays and 6 stitches in my index finger that was laying across the gun under the front of the scope.



........oh my..............
 
Where'd you go Coyotegetter? Hope we didn't run you off.......it just SCARES us to think about a fellow shooter getting hurt. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
I'm here. It ain't that I don't know my gun. I just don't know much about all these new Mag bullits out. The only thing about a magnum I know is that my .50 cal. Muzzleloader is a magnum (a damn good one too). Just was curious thats all.
 
Welcome to the board /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
Good question. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
If you don't understand something it's only good sense to ask. There are a lot of knowledgeable people here who are happy to help.

Part of the confusion comes from terminology. a bullet and a cartridge are two different things. The cartidge is the unit you load into the gun and the bullet is the part that leaves the gun when it is fired.

The .222 and the .222 magnum are different cartridges that are loaded with the same bullet. the difference in performance is the result of what is behind the bullet. I.E. Casing size may mean more powder capacity, possibly leading to more velocity , more power, flatter trajectory. Case design also comes into play.

Most firearms have the caliber or guage stamped on the barrel, it should also be stamped on the end of the cartridge. If they do not match exactly, don't use them. If you are not sure don't use them. If you had these two cartridges side by side , you would see the difference.
 
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Most firearms have the caliber or guage stamped on the barrel, it should also be stamped on the end of the cartridge. If they do not match exactly, don't use them. If you are not sure don't use them.



THAT'S the best advice YET ! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
hey sonny, i take offense at your statement "it's only old guys".

#1 stupid statement, you don't have to attend hunter safety to own a gun. you only need hunter safety to get a hunting license. so stick that one in your ear.

i'm pushing 70 and i have never shot any one accidently however i have shot a bunch of folks on purpose. the people i hunted with when i first started out were very specific about safety even in the 1940's. and i remember parties of hunters where you would find 20, 16 and 12 guage shotguns and nobody got shells mixed because they were careful. well some folks did but they were dumb butts to begin with. people like that need to be removed from the gene pool, preferably before they start breeding.

i have been reloading for 50+ years and still have all my digits, both eyes in working order and all my male body parts. when i started reloading the only manuals i could find or that were available were lyman and speer. we used to have to extrapolate powder charges. the only place that had chronographs was h. p. white labs and the aberdeen proving ground. i could mention here some loading practices that were prevelant in those times but they would serve no useful purpose. the old timmers will know what i'm talking about.
so i don't want to hear it's only old guys that cause accidents, that is pure male bovine excretment. unfamiliarity, disrespect and lack of firearm knowledge causes accidents. not old people. you don't get old by being stupid.

age has nothing to do with it. you can be 10 or 90, and if you aren't safety conscious you can hurt something or somebody.
 
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I'm here. It ain't that I don't know my gun. I just don't know much about all these new Mag bullits out. The only thing about a magnum I know is that my .50 cal. Muzzleloader is a magnum (a damn good one too). Just was curious thats all.



I think you guys are getting your leg pulled. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
I have both of these calibers, the .222Rem. and the .222Rem.Mag. They definitely are not interchangeable so don't even try it. The .222Rem.Mag. case holds about 4 grains more powder and that's a lot for such a small case.
You'd be courting disaster. Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal
 
Hello,

I think there may be some confustion with some of the information being delt out here. Hear me through, because I've had to talk a "veteran" hunter through this.

Caliber can be taken two different ways:

The caliber of the firearm is the case and bullet combination that this particular firearm shoots. When you buy a box of .222 rem ammuniton for your .222 rem firearm that is the right caliber for your .222 rem. The .222 rem mag ammuntion WILL NOT WORK!

The caliber of the bullet is the actuall bullet this rifle shoots. The .222 rem and the .222 rem mag are the exact same bullet, but not the same case.NOT A LARGER BULLET DIAMETER!

Magnum, constitutes a larger case than a regular(non-magnum) case, NOT A LARGER BULLET DIAMETER!

The same goes with the grains of bullets of a certain bullet caliber. A 40 grain bullet in .224 caliber is the same diameter as a 72 grain bullet in .224 caliber. Same diameter bullet, different lenghts.

JA in SD
 
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Welcome to the board BillyD



thanks steve, i'll try to keep my dissertations a bit shorter but that guy torqued my jaws with the crack about old guys. i'm not sensitive about being old, it sure beats the alternative. i just don't like sterotyping is all.
 


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