There isn't a thing wrong with Xperts. Has your buddy ever tried to pattern his gun with Xperts? I bet if he did, he would see that the choke/shell combo are no bueno. Find a choke that throws a decent pattern, and everything will be A-ok. Or maybe he should practice some in the off season. I shot quite a few boxes of them this year out of the 20, and they were absolutely devastating. I won't be shooting anything but Xperts next year(and I didn't want to shoot cheap shells...my gun just loves them though). I bet more ducks are killed by Xperts or Faststeel than any other shells every year, simply because they are cheap and more people shoot them.