Winchester primers, complete JUNK!!

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This makes the 3rd lot of bad winchester primers I've gotten my hands on in 1 year. Who the [beeep] is doing the QC there, Stevie [beeep] Wonder? Here I am in the middle of load development with say 40 rounds and the first attempts here failed to fire for the 20 practical and everyone in here should know the time it takes for proper case prep. At this point I called it. I had say 600 primers that I had bought which now sit in the bottom of my trash can. When I load with CCI primers I incur "ZERO" problems. They all rest in a heated moisture free environment and I never touch them so there is no negligence on my part. I guess winchester primers work great for some but certainly not for me and they'll never have to worry about me buying any of their products again. OK, that feels a little better.
 
Well, I guess S*** happens even nowadays. I had bad Win. primers maybe 25 years ago. That was the last time I bought Win,. primers.
 
I have a brick of Winchester SR primers that I bought at an estate sale a few years ago that I've been using in my bolt actions with no problems to date...The person that had owned them before probably bought them back in the 1970s or 1980a, and he had passed away '98..He even had a couple of bricks of Herters primers from back in the 1960s...
 
Run wlr and have 4000 from different lots and have had no problems. Ran the wsr for years with no problems. Switched over to 7.5 remingtons a few yrs ago. Before you pitched them why didn't you call and see if they were having problems. With the shortage of compnents I would not have pitched them. Also did you check to make sure you had them seated deep enough. I had a rifle that would not make the primer go off unless they were factory rounds. Ended up being the firing pin hanging up just slightly. Once I brokr the bolt down and cleaned it very well. It went bang everytime. With my reloads.
 
I probably have more primers than I'll ever use and as mad as I was I couldn't keep myself from throwing them in file 13. It functions flawlessly with any primer that does its job. I'm sure its just pure dumb luck on my part but with as many failures as I've had I'm pulling the plug on winchester. CCI or bust.



Originally Posted By: deaddogwalkinRun wlr and have 4000 from different lots and have had no problems. Ran the wsr for years with no problems. Switched over to 7.5 remingtons a few yrs ago. Before you pitched them why didn't you call and see if they were having problems. With the shortage of compnents I would not have pitched them. Also did you check to make sure you had them seated deep enough. I had a rifle that would not make the primer go off unless they were factory rounds. Ended up being the firing pin hanging up just slightly. Once I brokr the bolt down and cleaned it very well. It went bang everytime. With my reloads.
 
Originally Posted By: 5spdIve never had any problems with Winchester primers ever.



Same here. Have used Winchester, Remington, CCI, Federal, and Wolf with zero problems.
 
I'd be doing further testing. That would include other cartridges & then fired in different guns. It's a good chance something was just up with that particular case,load, gun combination.
 
Originally Posted By: deaddogwalkin
I had a rifle that would not make the primer go off unless they were factory rounds. Ended up being the firing pin hanging up just slightly. Once I broke the bolt down and cleaned it very well. It went bang every time. With my reloads.



In all the posts I have read over the years, you are the only one to mention this.

When you see how dumb a primer is, there is really very little that can be wrong with it. If it is dry, and you hit it, it WILL go bang!

I had (and still have) a very classy benchrest rifle in 222 Magnum... and when I was working up the original loads, I pierced a few primers until I got things where I wanted them.

Over the years, I would get misfires where I had to hit the primer twice to get it to go... there were a lot of "click-bangs".

The firing pin spring had plenty of "sprooong", and the pin protrusion was 0.058" which is on the long side of spec, and when the primers fired, they were well dented.

So I blamed the primers
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In spite of liking the rifle a lot, I shot it less and less, and drifted away from shooting it until it just sat in the corner collecting dust.

When we moved to this place a few years ago, I needed to take the bolt apart to take measurements of the firing pin for another project.

When it was all apart, I decided to clean it, and when the brake cleaner was sprayed in it, out pops two of the little pieces of primer cup that were pushed inside of it, when the primers were pierced, 35 years ago.

The rifle has not misfired or "click-banged" since then.
 
At the very least, send Win an E-mail with the Lot # of those primers. You could save others some problems if they recalled the lot.

Tom
 
No problems here with win primers. My first thought was, "that guy had way too many beers while he was reloading, had a lot of neck tension, the primer went off, and the bullet did not move forward, wonder what brand he was drinking"?

Keith
 
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I think I'd be looking at the relationship of the firing pin and the firing pin hole, (your firing pin may not be coming through far enough) or the seating depth of the primers...there is only supposed to be .0001" between the base of the case and the top of the primer...
 
I think I would have offered them to another reloader and told him the issue I had. But I do understand people loosing their temper.
 
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