Winchester primers, complete JUNK!!

Originally Posted By: Jack RobertsI have probably set off around 50,000 Win primers in the last 20 years. I never had a single misfire, not one.

Jack

I have been buy W-W primers for 40 years now in small rifle, large rifle, small pistol and large pistol and cannot recall ever having a dud. I used to buy them by the case when I was doing a lot of shooting.

Maybe their primer formula has changed now or perhaps their quality control is not what it used to be but even the ones that I have purchased in the last few months have done all I expected of them. They go bang when I pull the trigger. Good enough for me.
 
Well, my problem happened many years ago as noted in my 1st post. When I had problems with Win'. primers I gave away 3 boxes of the brick I had bought to members of the gun club I belonged to in Calif. Everyone of those shooters experienced misfires as I had. However, up to the time of that incident I had used Win'. primers from day one without a single problem.
 
Pull out of trash.

Take big deep breath, we all need this once in a while.

Clean primer pockets with a cleaning tool.

Seat primers fully. If you run your finger over the top and feel a rise at all they are too high.

Just load ten and see what happens.

Good luck man, it sucks when the plan falls apart when you think that you did everything perfectly.
 
Originally Posted By: Clay34Pull out of trash.

Take big deep breath, we all need this once in a while.

Clean primer pockets with a cleaning tool.

Seat primers fully. If you run your finger over the top and feel a rise at all they are too high.

Just load ten and see what happens.

Good luck man, it sucks when the plan falls apart when you think that you did everything perfectly.

What he said... plus disassemble your bolt, clean it, re-oil and grease it, and re-aassemble it.

Life will be good.
 
Im going to be completely insulting but only because ive seen it in person by people with a few billion reloads to their names. Are you sure there is powder in there?

I have had 1 rifle that had a habit of weak strikes. Federal primers were reliable in it, anything else would take quite a few double strikes to go through a range day.
 
Loaded some more last night with CCI BR-4's for today and tomorrow and managed to play around with the neck tension a bit. Every booleet left the barrel like a bat outta [beeep] immediately following the ignition of the primer without a single issue. I plan to get some more bench time in tomorrow as well so all is definitely looking up. There should be a new Photoshop of that guy that advertises Dos Equis beer, "I don't always shoot with winchester primers but when I do I bring along a knife just in case".
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I had a 22-250 that was giving me misfires..well much to my dismay, when I had adjusted the trigger to a lighter pull, it wasn't striking the primers hard enough I guess because when I adjusted the trigger back to the factory setting everything worked as it should.

Good luck....
 
Originally Posted By: gonzaga
I had a 22-250 that was giving me misfires..well much to my dismay, when I had adjusted the trigger to a lighter pull, it wasn't striking the primers hard enough I guess because when I adjusted the trigger back to the factory setting everything worked as it should.

Good luck....



Now, THAT makes no sense at all...

The trigger has nothing to do with how hard the pin (or hammer) falls.

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I had a batch for small rifle that I kept piercing the cup in my rem 222 thought I had a burr or something on the firing pin. Ran some of them through 2 different xp 100 fireballs and started happening again. Been staying with cci and rem mostly because that what our local shops carry.
 
Originally Posted By: OldTurtleI think I'd be looking at the relationship of the firing pin and the firing pin hole, (your firing pin may not be coming through far enough) or the seating depth of the primers...there is only supposed to be .0001" between the base of the case and the top of the primer...

OT,.0001 implies a tolerance that is not attainable in the real world. Did you get one to many 0s there? Primers that are flush with the case head to a nominal .005 below should fire if the primer is fully seated to the bottom of the primer pocket.

I tend to agree with Catshooter that you should clean and inspect the bolt and firing pin assembly. I have seen one case where the firing pin was hanging up on a burr inside the bore that guides the firing pin through the bolt face. I doubt that the original poster has this problem since his results are limited to Winchester primers. His photo does not show very clearly the depth of the primer face. It would be interesting to know the depth of the Winchester VS the CCI primers and how far the firing pin protrudes though the bolt face.
 
I like Winchester primers, and have used them successfully for years. Some things to consider, they are a bit hotter than others (great for ball powders), and they have soft cups. If you are seating primers with excessive force you can push the anvil thru the priming compound, flake it off, and are hitting a bare cup against the anvil. You may try to change the way you seat primers. Good luck, and dig those primers out of the trash!!
 
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