wondering about coyote pee cover scent ?
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Dave Allen
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lbldog...honestly i don't think it's anything to worry about...if a coyote's gonna smell ya he's gonna smell ya...there's a local guy here that wipe's his clothes in bacon grease ??
Dave Allen
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bob is right...i have used coyote pee...skunk scent...stunk so bad all i had to do is walk in the house & it would stink for hour's plus you can't hardly wash the smell from your gear...plus...if married the wife will hate you...to top it all off i found no difference in how many coyote's called...just my experiance's...
Yotes2Call
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guys... cover scents are a waste of money.
Coyotes can smell one part per million.....
nothing you put on is gonna do the job... I guarantee it.
Use the wind to your favor and watch how you walk in on a stand....
PS... your wife and your hunting partner will be lots happier...
Coyotes can smell one part per million.....
nothing you put on is gonna do the job... I guarantee it.
Use the wind to your favor and watch how you walk in on a stand....
PS... your wife and your hunting partner will be lots happier...
Tactical .20
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When they collect coyote urine it is from caged coyotes,,, coyotes, plural. At a trap set they can tell it is from several coyotes.
In the predator extreme magazine this month there is an article where a guy uses coyote, fox, bobcat, and rabbit urine to mist 360 degrees around the calling set. He claimes it over loads their brain to nose connection and they will stand down wind and can't figure out what the heck is going on, fox, coyote , rabbit, bobcat and human odors, he claims is too much at one time?? Interesting, I'll have to try it.T.20
In the predator extreme magazine this month there is an article where a guy uses coyote, fox, bobcat, and rabbit urine to mist 360 degrees around the calling set. He claimes it over loads their brain to nose connection and they will stand down wind and can't figure out what the heck is going on, fox, coyote , rabbit, bobcat and human odors, he claims is too much at one time?? Interesting, I'll have to try it.T.20
TonyTebbe
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...to top it all off i found no difference in how many coyote's called...just my experiance's...
I agree. We used coyote urine for a number of years. I think it helped build your confidence up on stand more than anything....otherwise, we never saw much of a difference in number of coyotes. The key is, choose your stand and path to your stand wisely and shoot them before they get directly down wind of you.
Tony
...to top it all off i found no difference in how many coyote's called...just my experiance's...
I agree. We used coyote urine for a number of years. I think it helped build your confidence up on stand more than anything....otherwise, we never saw much of a difference in number of coyotes. The key is, choose your stand and path to your stand wisely and shoot them before they get directly down wind of you.
Tony
The misitng that Tactical .20 talked about works. If you want to see it get Up Close & Personal DVD from Rich Higgins. He shows you using the misting system, and coyotes standing down wind, and running over his boots in this video. Misting is not the same as just a coyote cover scent on the way you use it.
Get the video you will learn something!!!!!!
dog243
Get the video you will learn something!!!!!!
dog243
GC
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Cover scents are a waste of time and money. To a coyote downwind you only smell like a human with skunk, rabbit, coyote, or whatever pee smeared around on/around you. They will still smell you in the middle of it. Misting... It may work in certain conditions and terrain for a limited time frame. Where you have a lot of visibility downwind, several hundred open yards, misting my work to stall a coyote long enough for a shot. That I cannot dispute intellegently. How far downwind can you see where you typically set-up? In the heavy timber and rough, broken, terrain of the Ozarks I hunt I can't see beyond 75 - 100 yards. So if a coyote swings downwind of me 150 yards, so what if he stands to decipher the various scents he smells? I can't see him to get a shot. I've backtracked through the snow manytimes and found smokin' fresh tracks where coyotes backdoored me downwind to cut the scent trail. Usually this was anywhere from 100 yards to 200 yards behind me downwind... and out of sight. That is why when hunting with a partner I began to swing a "tailgunner" downwind from me as I handcalled. That downwind hunter would be anywhere from as little as 25 yards to as much as 100 yards depending upon the terrain and cover. I've found over the years the tailgunner got around 40% of the shots. That's 40% of the coyotes I would never have seen if the tailgunner hadn't killed them! That is substantial and exactly why a e-caller with remote is so effective when hunting alone. The ability to get crosswind of the sound is a huge advantage.
Tactical .20
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Kirby, from what I understand they do it like you say, with a pan to funnel, but then they put it in the same bucket from all the coyotes or fox,ect. I always wondered why not sell it as one coyotes urine, that would make it more natural to them. Maybe two or three together would be ok, it just seems that 10-20 put together must be a little unnatural to the older coyotes.
I seem to have better luck using the urine from one killed male or female at a set, but then sometimes I do it to get the remaining ones to think the missing guy signed territory there. I only use coyote urine in my gland lure to make it pour easier, too many deer and rabbit problems with urine at all or most sets.
It probably would be a video that would help learn something, just can't buy anything now, or in near future, thanks.T.20
I seem to have better luck using the urine from one killed male or female at a set, but then sometimes I do it to get the remaining ones to think the missing guy signed territory there. I only use coyote urine in my gland lure to make it pour easier, too many deer and rabbit problems with urine at all or most sets.
It probably would be a video that would help learn something, just can't buy anything now, or in near future, thanks.T.20
GC,
I agree that how far you can see can make a difference. But after seeing "Up Close & Personal" it might change your mind, if you have not seen it. The calling is in thick stuff and open areas.
I have used the MISTING System here in Pennsylvania, thick woods, and it has worked for me, with shots at 30 yds.
If you feel it would not work for you fine, just don't BASH something you have not used or learned more about.
dog243
I agree that how far you can see can make a difference. But after seeing "Up Close & Personal" it might change your mind, if you have not seen it. The calling is in thick stuff and open areas.
I have used the MISTING System here in Pennsylvania, thick woods, and it has worked for me, with shots at 30 yds.
If you feel it would not work for you fine, just don't BASH something you have not used or learned more about.
dog243
Rich in AZ
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I was born in SE Missouri, not far from GC. I lived in the Ozarks in SW Missouri for a time and it is the same terrain.
I consider misting to be essential when calling in heavy cover, regardless which state. It is normal for a coyote to worry back and forth in cover, in the middle of a scent column, or cone if you must, intent on interpreting the three S's that we provide, eventually exposing itself. We would also use a call, mist and relocate technique that was very effective in the hills and hollows of the Ozarks.
Misting isn't neccessary in big open country, when calling to a gun, where we generally know from which direction the coyote will approach and we can set up so that we can take the coyote before it reaches downwind. When calling in those areas to a camera or just for recreation we still mist and with the expected results.
I wrote an article in Predator Extreme this month that explains a scientific perspective and details the developement of the misting technique over the past forty four years. It is not an infallible silver bullet but it is highly effective if understood and used properly.
dog243, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I'll be visiting Pa. this next season and would like to talk to you about your area.
I consider misting to be essential when calling in heavy cover, regardless which state. It is normal for a coyote to worry back and forth in cover, in the middle of a scent column, or cone if you must, intent on interpreting the three S's that we provide, eventually exposing itself. We would also use a call, mist and relocate technique that was very effective in the hills and hollows of the Ozarks.
Misting isn't neccessary in big open country, when calling to a gun, where we generally know from which direction the coyote will approach and we can set up so that we can take the coyote before it reaches downwind. When calling in those areas to a camera or just for recreation we still mist and with the expected results.
I wrote an article in Predator Extreme this month that explains a scientific perspective and details the developement of the misting technique over the past forty four years. It is not an infallible silver bullet but it is highly effective if understood and used properly.
dog243, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I'll be visiting Pa. this next season and would like to talk to you about your area.
GC,
YES That's what happened. The coyotes came in down wind to 30 yds. for the shot. This was in heavy wooded area with sight range of about 75 to 80 yds. distance and only about 10 yds. wide. They came in through thick pines and undergrowth into the shooting lane. I had been misting the whole time on stand off and on for about 15 mins. and calling prior to them coming in.
dog243
YES That's what happened. The coyotes came in down wind to 30 yds. for the shot. This was in heavy wooded area with sight range of about 75 to 80 yds. distance and only about 10 yds. wide. They came in through thick pines and undergrowth into the shooting lane. I had been misting the whole time on stand off and on for about 15 mins. and calling prior to them coming in.
dog243
BillyTheKidd
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I have not read Richs aritcal in PX, knowing Rich I bet it's a good one.
I've been using what they call misting since 1975. When I first started using the system it was just rabbit urine only and I was using it at night. I knew even back then 99% of coyotes head downwind at night.
By the way, that's when I learned once a coyote passes downwind it's leaving the seen, so take your best shot.
We got the idea of adding coyote urine because we figured if the coyote smelled another coyote beating it to the rabbit that it hears and smells it may trigger a reaction from the coyote, and it did.
Kind of a simple idea that has worked for years for those who knew about it. The guys who first used this idea were some of the most successful predator hunters in the Country.
It would be a good idea if some of you non belivers gave it a try before you through the idea in the trash.
It is not ment to be a cover scent, it is ment to confuse the coyote and hopfully trick it.
As we all know the coyote well smell you anyways, but it may through caution aside to beat the other coyote to the rabbit.
I believe the best coyote hunters in the country try to think like a coyote.
I've been using what they call misting since 1975. When I first started using the system it was just rabbit urine only and I was using it at night. I knew even back then 99% of coyotes head downwind at night.
By the way, that's when I learned once a coyote passes downwind it's leaving the seen, so take your best shot.
We got the idea of adding coyote urine because we figured if the coyote smelled another coyote beating it to the rabbit that it hears and smells it may trigger a reaction from the coyote, and it did.
Kind of a simple idea that has worked for years for those who knew about it. The guys who first used this idea were some of the most successful predator hunters in the Country.
It would be a good idea if some of you non belivers gave it a try before you through the idea in the trash.
It is not ment to be a cover scent, it is ment to confuse the coyote and hopfully trick it.
As we all know the coyote well smell you anyways, but it may through caution aside to beat the other coyote to the rabbit.
I believe the best coyote hunters in the country try to think like a coyote.
Redneckspride
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I have not misted here on the east coast yet but am getting ready to here in the next couple of weeks. but the same as you I have been using urines to calm critters down for years also. it started trappin then moved into helping in getting that extra sec for the shot.
When hunting in Mexico, we night hunted all the time. We had a spray bottle of rabbit urine in the hatch. It is simply amazing how many times a coyote will circle down wind. When we could see a yote working down wind, we would spray the air with 4-6 sprays from the spray bottle. The reaction was nothing less than amazing at the reaction from smelling the rabbit urine...they simply forgot their anxiety and can in to the call.
We did find that using fox urine scared off foxes.
We never used any coyote urine.
Later on, we changed to Sardines (packed in oil). We put two cans of sardines in a dark colored sock, and hug one from each end of the truck. When the yote was working down wind, we hedged our bets with the rabbit urine. The spray of the rabbit urine also give you a very good idea exactly what direction the slightest breeze is blowing.
When we hunted off the ground, we carried a sock with two cans of Sardines (packed in oil) in a 1 lb coffee can which was also placed in a Zip Loc Freezer bag.
Experienced coyotes and deer love to walk with thier noses into the wind...their nose is an extra set of eyes.
We did find that using fox urine scared off foxes.
We never used any coyote urine.
Later on, we changed to Sardines (packed in oil). We put two cans of sardines in a dark colored sock, and hug one from each end of the truck. When the yote was working down wind, we hedged our bets with the rabbit urine. The spray of the rabbit urine also give you a very good idea exactly what direction the slightest breeze is blowing.
When we hunted off the ground, we carried a sock with two cans of Sardines (packed in oil) in a 1 lb coffee can which was also placed in a Zip Loc Freezer bag.
Experienced coyotes and deer love to walk with thier noses into the wind...their nose is an extra set of eyes.