Wyoming Tag Hike... So much for hunting there
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NdIndy
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Unless you butcher your own (i dont), antelope and deer both are way more expensive than beef. Its more cost effective to not pull the trigger and go shopping. Extrapolate it out and you save a bunch of money paying to shoot a buffalo compared to a public land antelope hunt.
For residents that havent checked the website, g&f has emergency rules posted for this season, amends a lot that will get you hammered if ou go by the actual regs. In fact, new thread coming up.
For residents that havent checked the website, g&f has emergency rules posted for this season, amends a lot that will get you hammered if ou go by the actual regs. In fact, new thread coming up.
EJ Reichenbach
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Growing up in wyoming it was nice because where we lived you could always buy lots of additional tags to help fill the freezer, now it would be cheaper to buy beef
Originally Posted By: BigGrizzCool. Ill look it over and if it has become a serious legislative or bureaucratic issue Ill see what I can get done as far as tamping this down. WGFD needs to be lined out a little.
The real issue i have as a NR is I am stuck. I have 5 PP at 5$50 each so already invested $250 bucks and now I have higher PP cost to keep in the game and even higher tag cost. From my view they screwed up after that extremely hard winter and did not respond with a big enough decrease in tag sales. Colorado did the same. the year after the bad winter they did not cut tags. After seeing the success rates drop by 50% now a person can't get a tag and build points. In the long run WY did something similar. Now they have had to decrease tags even more. the real issue is the cost increase with no real increase in quality. In fact there has been a decrease.
I would love to see how they have made cuts?
The real issue i have as a NR is I am stuck. I have 5 PP at 5$50 each so already invested $250 bucks and now I have higher PP cost to keep in the game and even higher tag cost. From my view they screwed up after that extremely hard winter and did not respond with a big enough decrease in tag sales. Colorado did the same. the year after the bad winter they did not cut tags. After seeing the success rates drop by 50% now a person can't get a tag and build points. In the long run WY did something similar. Now they have had to decrease tags even more. the real issue is the cost increase with no real increase in quality. In fact there has been a decrease.
I would love to see how they have made cuts?
NdIndy
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Im guessing youre referring to 1984, lots of dead animals from the winter. Prior to if memory serves, no draw and up to 6 additionals per hunter. I wasnt hunting then but i recall my cousins 2 car garage looking like a meat locker between him, his wife, my dad, my mom and every possible goat and deer tag filled. A retarded amount of meat, theynbutchered for about a month every night.
After that, draw everywhere and no additionals. Its only been the last few years that ive seen them offered. To be honest i wAsnt always a meat hunter so i hadnt paid real close attention.
This year the area ive been deer hunting for the last several only allowed 50 doe tags, and i see 100+ does per hour. Season has been shortened to 10 days total, 1 weekend. Im not deer hunting this year. Goat tags are as expensive as elk used to be, and goats are like flies. Im rack hunting goats this year, too expensive to shoot for 40 pounds of meat.
After that, draw everywhere and no additionals. Its only been the last few years that ive seen them offered. To be honest i wAsnt always a meat hunter so i hadnt paid real close attention.
This year the area ive been deer hunting for the last several only allowed 50 doe tags, and i see 100+ does per hour. Season has been shortened to 10 days total, 1 weekend. Im not deer hunting this year. Goat tags are as expensive as elk used to be, and goats are like flies. Im rack hunting goats this year, too expensive to shoot for 40 pounds of meat.
Originally Posted By: NdIndyIm guessing youre referring to 1984, lots of dead animals from the winter. Prior to if memory serves, no draw and up to 6 additionals per hunter. I wasnt hunting then but i recall my cousins 2 car garage looking like a meat locker between him, his wife, my dad, my mom and every possible goat and deer tag filled. A retarded amount of meat, theynbutchered for about a month every night.
After that, draw everywhere and no additionals. Its only been the last few years that ive seen them offered. To be honest i wAsnt always a meat hunter so i hadnt paid real close attention.
This year the area ive been deer hunting for the last several only allowed 50 doe tags, and i see 100+ does per hour. Season has been shortened to 10 days total, 1 weekend. Im not deer hunting this year. Goat tags are as expensive as elk used to be, and goats are like flies. Im rack hunting goats this year, too expensive to shoot for 40 pounds of meat.
NAH I am talking about the last one in 2007. It hit southern WY and Northern West CO really hard. We found tons of winter kill everywhere we went. That winter hit deer really hard. Next summer when asked about it, both WY and CO seemed to act like it was not that bad at all... After everyone reported significant drop in game the finally dropped tag numbers....
After that, draw everywhere and no additionals. Its only been the last few years that ive seen them offered. To be honest i wAsnt always a meat hunter so i hadnt paid real close attention.
This year the area ive been deer hunting for the last several only allowed 50 doe tags, and i see 100+ does per hour. Season has been shortened to 10 days total, 1 weekend. Im not deer hunting this year. Goat tags are as expensive as elk used to be, and goats are like flies. Im rack hunting goats this year, too expensive to shoot for 40 pounds of meat.
NAH I am talking about the last one in 2007. It hit southern WY and Northern West CO really hard. We found tons of winter kill everywhere we went. That winter hit deer really hard. Next summer when asked about it, both WY and CO seemed to act like it was not that bad at all... After everyone reported significant drop in game the finally dropped tag numbers....
NdIndy
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Hehe, guess i found it unremarkable as well
. This is the first year ive seen my normal areas changed as far as length or number. I didnt hunt last year, limited the year before but still had several tags that stayed on the dresser. So potentially had a change last year.
Deer season in my see a thousand deer.a day area has been shortened quite a bit and almost no extra tags. No deer hunting for me this year.
Deer season in my see a thousand deer.a day area has been shortened quite a bit and almost no extra tags. No deer hunting for me this year.
1100 Remington Man
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I can see a price increase about 3 % per year for inflation but most states just don't know how to run a budget. It always seem Goverment just want more money, have you ever seen a Police Chief or Fire Chief ever say they have enough man power or equipment its never enough & in truth when is a Cop at your house when it gets broken into ? It's the same with Game Wardens when some one is poaching, they catch a few but dam few.
Dogwood Creek
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Well I'm glad I didn't jump into the P-Point thing there this year. I was considering it for deer and lope. I used to think Montana was crazy but this is insane. Bad thing is there will likely be more demand in Colorado now. I hear they are looking at cutting the licenses back some in the Powderhorn. I'll never have enough P-Points if this keeps up. I was looking at 9 to draw. Have 7. I guess I'll burn them in unit 67 next fall and stay over another week after the elk hunt. Provided 7 ends up being enough. What a money pit. It won't take Colorado long to follow suit. Being surrounded by states that are getting these prices for N.R. tags can't be easy to swallow.
Originally Posted By: Dogwood CreekWell I'm glad I didn't jump into the P-Point thing there this year. I was considering it for deer and lope. I used to think Montana was crazy but this is insane. Bad thing is there will likely be more demand in Colorado now. I hear they are looking at cutting the licenses back some in the Powderhorn. I'll never have enough P-Points if this keeps up. I was looking at 9 to draw. Have 7. I guess I'll burn them in unit 67 next fall and stay over another week after the elk hunt. Provided 7 ends up being enough. What a money pit. It won't take Colorado long to follow suit. Being surrounded by states that are getting these prices for N.R. tags can't be easy to swallow.
Dogwood,
You are correct in this will do 2 things in Colorado. 1 increase demand for NR tags and may add to PP creep. ON the flip side you will not see an increase like this in CO anytime soon. Not long ago CO tied tag prices to CPI/Inflation Rates. This ultimately means that by law they can never come in and ask for a 30% increase. They have their hands tied to a certain extent. On the flip side they can add something new, hence the $10 habitat stamps.
After hearing the WYGF presentation and watching them, I really do not see anywhere they have presented the public with operating cost reductions, or money saving measures, etc. They did site a 3% general budget reduction, but when pushed on the matter is was from the states general fund. Which composes only a small percentage of thier entire budget.
They also cited how the online licenses have managed to save several dollars, but failed to mention how they are paying someone all the time to update and maintain the website (which changes almost everytime I look at it).
They are also doing this when MT raised thier prices and still have 1000s of NR tags unsold.
When I questioned the price increase compared to the product. I stated that the product they are offering is not better than years past and in many cases has decreased in quality. They responded with hunter success rates as indicating the quality. It became apparent that the head of WYGF is all about money, and the best way to get money is getting everyone to shoot dinks, keep up the success rates, etc...
Dogwood,
You are correct in this will do 2 things in Colorado. 1 increase demand for NR tags and may add to PP creep. ON the flip side you will not see an increase like this in CO anytime soon. Not long ago CO tied tag prices to CPI/Inflation Rates. This ultimately means that by law they can never come in and ask for a 30% increase. They have their hands tied to a certain extent. On the flip side they can add something new, hence the $10 habitat stamps.
After hearing the WYGF presentation and watching them, I really do not see anywhere they have presented the public with operating cost reductions, or money saving measures, etc. They did site a 3% general budget reduction, but when pushed on the matter is was from the states general fund. Which composes only a small percentage of thier entire budget.
They also cited how the online licenses have managed to save several dollars, but failed to mention how they are paying someone all the time to update and maintain the website (which changes almost everytime I look at it).
They are also doing this when MT raised thier prices and still have 1000s of NR tags unsold.
When I questioned the price increase compared to the product. I stated that the product they are offering is not better than years past and in many cases has decreased in quality. They responded with hunter success rates as indicating the quality. It became apparent that the head of WYGF is all about money, and the best way to get money is getting everyone to shoot dinks, keep up the success rates, etc...