Ya gotta love Arizona!

I think there's something weird about my age group around here... I've lost friends and classmates left and right since I was about 14. Car accidents and juvenile ignorance took at least a dozen friends before I graduated and probably that many since. Now it seems they're all getting into drugs and violent crime ( peas in a pod ) and are suffering the consequences.
 
How old are you?

I saw quite a few not make it through HS myself. Unkown how many after, it's been 25 years now, but I'm willing to bet it's a few. And most of those were probably in the 5 years or so immediately after HS, as it seems that once past that age most folks have grown up enough that they're no longer at as great a risk for the consequences of their actions.
 
Originally posted by Stu Farish:
[qb]Doesn't sound good. In TN I could shoot him as he tried to enter. Which would imply the entrance wounds would be in the front. [/qb]
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If you simply consider he had an entrance wound in his back, it sounds like he was shot while fleeing. However, the article stated:
He had one entrance wound in the back and another in the left shoulder," Pirtle said, from a bullet fired from a semi-automatic rifle.
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Which sounds like two shots. It's not uncommon that when a person has more than one round fired at them that a round impacts the back. The first round can cause an immediate flight reaction that causes the person to turn away from where the bullets are coming from. The second round caught him as he turned.

Even if he caught the one in the back first, it could be possible he wasn't fleeing. He could have been climbing through a window and bent over at the midsection thus exposing his back.

Without more information it's impossible to say if he was shot in the back on his way out the door. But there are logical and probable reasons for somebody getting shot in the back when they weren't in retreat.
 
Stu, I turned 23 on April Fools Day. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Five years out of school... hopefully you're right and this trend stops soon.

Bronco, you're right there are several situations that could lead to an acceptable shot in the back. Its possible that they had a physical confrontation and the gun was tossed around the room... its impossible to tell.
 
That's the problem with a news report like this. It's too imprecise and we're missing details. i got the impression that the shoulder entrance was also from the rear, but that's not actually stated.
 
Thats where I said I may have been clouded by peoples stories... I've talked to several people and may have soaked up some of their twisted facts. One informant is the sister of an officer that worked the scene, another is my buddy that lives 1/4 mile down the road from this incident.

In related news, I got a ticket this morning. First in five years! $150! I knew I hated coming in at 2 am for some reason, the only people on the roads are cops. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
Sounds like your buddy's about to be seriously screwed.

Time to call Johnnie Cochran.

Dunno if he'll even be able to get someone off that shot an unarmed dude in the back.
 
Got some clarification on the story today. Talked to a family member of the homeowner. Turns out it isn't the same Eddie Wiseman that I know... apparently there are two the same age but the one in the story was home schooled so I've never met him. The new story goes he came home and found the older guy on his wife and shot him. He claims it was breaking & entering but we'll have to see what his wife says. Doesn't sound good so far! Still no charges pressed apparently though, he was at work on Friday.
 
I just gotta throw my 2cents in.

If I have to shoot someone, I don't want but one witness at the trial, ME! That's why I don't carry a 25, 380, 38, or 9MM. For me it's .45Cal. 1911A.

Wish I was in AZ, a 1911A is not very conceilable.
 
Haha, I agree, dead men don't tell stories.

There have been just a few developments in this story in the last week or so, turns out it was definatly involving this younger guys wife. Family and friends confirmed that the wife had been cheating on him but nobody has filed charges against him as far as I know. The paper comes out tomorrow so maybe there will be some news in there. He shot him with a M-16 style rifle in .223 caliber. I met a cousin at a family reuinion Saturday that lives next door and his house was littered with rounds!! I'm sure there will be something come of that... insurance claims were made for siding replacement and everything. Apparently he unloaded!!
 
I live in northern Utah about 70 miles west of Evanston, Wyoming. We ride (motorcycles) n Wyoming a lot.

Open carry is a fact of life in Wyoming, and very common. You don't see open carry in Utah, but we have a very easy to get and inexpensive CFP (Concealed Firearm Permit). We don't have nearly the restrictions on concealed carry that a lot of places do.

In fact the only places I've been lately that I couldn't carry were work (employer restrictriction) and the federal building in Ogden.
 
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