I have used the victor #3 for a long time but this year i bought a couple doz sleepy creek #3 and the coil springs on the sleepy creek are just as strong as a four coiled victor. The doz sleepys i four coiled are just unbelivable strong i think they might hold anything that steps in them deer included. Just [beeep] for stout traps. I like victors but i think sleepys are built better.