Originally Posted By: meat hunterOriginally Posted By: nightcallerOriginally Posted By: meat hunterOriginally Posted By: nightcaller
meat hunter said:...My all time favorite hunting rifle/scope combination is the TC Venture .308 with a Leupold Vari X III 2.5-8x36. This scope is over 20 years old and I think it is as good if not better than the Zeiss. The Zeiss glass is great for sure. It is clear and bright but in my opinion Zeiss has one major drawback. The Conquest has a much smaller eyebox and shorter eye relief than the Leupold. To me and again this is just my opinion from experience. If you have to move your head around and hold it just perfect it does not matter how good the glass is.
Really? your 20yr old leupy is "as good or better" than a zeiss. you either haven't compared the two side by side or your eyes need to be checked. and as far as the "drawbacks" you mentioned: mount the scope correctly and that "drawback" goes away.
the zeiss is better in every way. UNLESS you have a preference in what you want the scope to do in which case the Leup may offer something that you would prefer.
I have been mounting and sighting in scopes of all kinds for people for more than 30 years. I average 40 to 60 every year. I know very well how to mount a scope to a rifle. I have mounted and sighted in several 3-9x40 Conquests just in the last 5 months on guns ranging from the .17 HMR to the 300 Win Mag and I stick by my statement. Sitting behind a Conquest on 9 power mounted to a 300 Win Mag is not fun. If you think the Zeiss is all that then by all means go for it. I on the other hand do not agree that they are better than a Leupold Vari X III, VXIII or VX3 in every way for the reasons I stated in my previous post. Eyebox and eye relief goes to the Leupold. Brightness goes to Zeiss but not by a big margin. At least not enough of a margin to give up the ease of finding the sweet spot behind a scope that the better Leupolds offer.
all i can say is that you optometrist should be making more money than he is.
Ok I understand now. If someone does not agree with your OPINION you resort to insults. Shows me a lot about you sir.
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Meat hunter is right about eye relief fellas, hate to bust your bubble. I own a Conquest 3-9-50 on a Savage weather warrior .300 mag. I would not trade it for a Leupold but the eye relief on my Conquest is nothing compared to a Leupold.