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Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnotOriginally Posted By: Coyotehunter_ The Green tips on them are plastic. At least I thought that they were green plastic.

the green tips are paint. no plastic in those bullets.


Thanks, I was not aware of that. So why don't people hunt with FMJ type bullets? Are hallow points better to use for hunting?
 
Originally Posted By: reb8600Originally Posted By: ar15rdyI'm shooting 55-grain federal soft point. Can 1/9 barrel handle 55 grain with consistent accuracy?

You should have no problems with the 55 grain getting consistent accuracy.

I don't have the AR15 with the 1:9 twist rate barrel anymore. That was my neighbor who let me have use of that gun for just one week. He wanted me to buy it but I already had my eye on the Daniel Defense Ambush Firearms AR15 by then. And I didn't know that the DD AF AR15 had a 1:7 twist rate on it's barrel. So that is why I went with the larger bullets. Now I have a bunch of 223 bullets in 55 grains from Hornady that shoot OK but not as good as the heavier bullets in my DD AF AR15.
 
Originally Posted By: Coyotehunter_Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnotOriginally Posted By: Coyotehunter_ The Green tips on them are plastic. At least I thought that they were green plastic.

the green tips are paint. no plastic in those bullets.


Thanks, I was not aware of that. So why don't people hunt with FMJ type bullets? Are hallow points better to use for hunting?

An FMJ bullet will generally pass straight through, do not expand or come apart and not make a clean kill. They were not designed for hunting. The M855 is a painted tip and has a steel tip under the copper. They were designed to penetrate a vest. Again, they will pass straight through an animal. Yes they may eventually die but why make an animal suffer.

Our indoor range will not even allow the M855 or any other steel ammo on the range. It damages our traps.
 
found this in a search.

No color/ Uniformly copper colored - Fmj ball bullet

Half copper colored with grey metallic tip- Expanding Hunting bullets

Red/orange tipped - incendiary /Tracer bullets

Black tipped - Armour piercing bullets

White tipped - explosive bullets

Green tipped- Disintegrating/frangible bullets

Dummy rounds usually have pressed grooves in main body of cartridge
 
Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnot found this in a search.

No color/ Uniformly copper colored - Fmj ball bullet

Half copper colored with grey metallic tip- Expanding Hunting bullets

Red/orange tipped - incendiary /Tracer bullets

Black tipped - Armour piercing bullets

White tipped - explosive bullets

Green tipped- Disintegrating/frangible bullets

Dummy rounds usually have pressed grooves in main body of cartridge


That is not completely correct. I have seen no color FMJ that are 62 gr steel penetrators (M855). Have seen them come into the range numerous times. Some companies are loading them without a painted green tip.

Painted green tip are not frangible, they are steel penetrators. A quick check with a magnet will tell if they are steel penetrators. Usually a 62 gr FMJ bullet are. I have not seen one yet that did not have a piece of steel in the tip.
 
Originally Posted By: reb8600Originally Posted By: Coyotehunter_Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnotOriginally Posted By: Coyotehunter_ The Green tips on them are plastic. At least I thought that they were green plastic.

the green tips are paint. no plastic in those bullets.


Thanks, I was not aware of that. So why don't people hunt with FMJ type bullets? Are hallow points better to use for hunting?

An FMJ bullet will generally pass straight through, do not expand or come apart and not make a clean kill. They were not designed for hunting. The M855 is a painted tip and has a steel tip under the copper. They were designed to penetrate a vest. Again, they will pass straight through an animal. Yes, they may eventually die but why make an animal suffer.

Our indoor range will not even allow the M855 or any other steel ammo on the range. It damages our traps.

Thank you for your informed response. Now I understand why you said that.

The range that I used to shoot my AR15 has a great big bank of sand and then huge timbers 6"x 6" in size to cover the top of the sand bank. The sand bank is about 10 ft high and the roof timbers are about 15 ft high with dirt over the top going up about 4 ft. The sides of the shooting lane are big banks of dirt that are 15 to 20 ft higher than the shooting lane. It's the Sugar Ridge Fish and Wildlife Shooting Range in Southern Indiana.

I'll use these M855 bullets for practice only now that I know more about them. I may never be able to shoot the rest of the box of ammo due to my health issues.

Now if I plan on hunting anything in the future I'll have to find some heavy bullets that are hollow point and that will expand to make a cleaner kill than these FMJ bullet.
 
Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnotyes, they do have a bit of steel in the tip. here is a little more copy/paste. just find it interesting.

https://www.itstactical.com/warcom/ammun...armor-piercing/



Thank you for the link. I'm doing some more research on these M855 bullets. I found that they are used as they are tougher and last longer and don't get damaged as much as other bullets for war. Unless were to get involved in a war I won't need these bullets for anything other than target shooting at the local gun range. I've learned that they are not very good for shooting animals as they don't expand and will pass through the animal without killing them fast.
 
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