Zimmerman Prosecutor threatens lawsuit against Dershowitz-Harvard

Hm, you were the voice of reason that suggested that everyone allow the justice system to work. It is disappointing that you have decided that the justice system may be incapable of resolving the case. The Rodney King case is an excellent example that justice does not depend on public approval. Trying to turn the case into a racial issue is propaganda. The guy is either guilty of second degree murder or he is innocent. A jury is just as capable and as intelligent as you are and can certainly decide the issue.
 
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Originally Posted By: HunterBear71Hm, you were the voice of reason that suggested that everyone allow the justice system to work. It is disappointing that you have decided that the justice system may be incapable of resolving the case. The Rodney King case is an excellent example that justice does not depend on public approval. Trying to turn the case into a racial issue is propaganda. The guy is either guilty of second degree murder or he is innocent. A jury is just as capable and as intelligent as you are and can certainly decide the issue.

It is a shame that the justice system has been perverted by MSM inuendo, distorted "news stories" and outright manufactured evidence imposed on the public solely for the purpose of increasing ratings and selling newspapers and further, pressured by JJ, Al and others who fanned the flames of racial division for self agrandization. Had the propagandists and instigators let the justice system work originally, I would have had much more faith in the system and Zimmerman would have had a much better chance of receiving a fair and impartial trial by his peers.

As I said earlier, it will be most difficult, if not impossible, to seat an impartial jury. First off, with the racial tension that Al & crew have set in motion, any intelligent jury member would have in mind the ramifications (for jury members and/or their families and, even the local community) should the not guilty verdict be indicated by the evidence presented in the courtroom, or, even if a reduced charge should be negotiated due to the fact that the special prosecutor may very well have, for whatever reasons, set the stakes higher than the evidence supports.

Regards,
hm
 
I am going to comment as someone who has actually sat in the jury box, twice, and once as the foreman.

There is no way in heck that Zimmerman gets a fair trial in Florida by impartial jurors. That state is so upside down in racial politics and crap that there just is not a large enough pool of people to draw from that are not afraid of repercussions, and when we add in that a large part of the population derives its income from tourism, they do not want to lose any of the season to rebuild their businesses that burned down because they upheld a man's right to defend himself against a hidden in the night aggressor. Not possible.

The only way that fellow is going to get a fair trial is to send him to Alaska, and maybe not even then. Perhaps North Dakota is even better. Utah might be good, but then people are going to say, "the gun-totin' west let him go!"

Trials are not about truth. They are about making the jury sympathetic to the story of the accused or the prosecutor. That is it. Truth does not enter into the equation, because jurors have awarded huge amounts to people too stupid to think without help, and have let murderers with blood on their clothing walk because of a perceived social ill committed by the prosecution in a search warrant that the judge still allowed because the defense used information in that same search to defend with (seen it, it was an interesting legal argument, and the judge said, "ok, fine with me!" much to the chagrin of the whining defense attorney whom just should not have reached so far). The story is going to sound bad all over the South, the Northeast, the far West, the Pacific Northwest, and even the mid-atlantic states are going to have bias. North Dakota or Alaska is about it. Or Utah, as a very distant third place. Too much media manipulation of lies and half truths to do it otherwise.
 
That's right HB.When the police investigated and the DA declined to charge someone found another DA who would press charges.What has that got to do with media?Is that not what happened?Is this not the 2nd DA to look at this case?Why can you not understand that the 2nd DA brought charges to avoid riots,not seek justice.Those people down there are afraid.Don't you remember the reward,remember Spike Lee?Remember the elderly couple who were terrorised because the wrong address was given out?Don't be so naive.
 
Originally Posted By: tnshootistThat's right HB.When the police investigated and the DA declined to charge someone found another DA who would press charges.What has that got to do with media?Is that not what happened?Is this not the 2nd DA to look at this case?Why can you not understand that the 2nd DA brought charges to avoid riots,not seek justice.Those people down there are afraid.Don't you remember the reward,remember Spike Lee?Remember the elderly couple who were terrorised because the wrong address was given out?Don't be so naive.

Angela Corey was appointed by Florida Governor Rick Scott, to investigate the case TS. She has a reputation for being fair, but very hard core. She would not likely be the choice of the black community to prosecute, as the last controversial case she prosecuted, she sent a black to prison, on matters of Stand Of Your Ground. ( http://justiceformarissa.blogspot.com/ ) In fact, there were some complaints raised, amongst the black community, about her prosecuting the case, because of that case. Right up to the point that she brought the Murder 2 charge against Zimmerman, then it quieted down! Whether that charge was brought to appease the black community, with an underlying intent of purposely overcharging the case seeking acquital or plea bargain to a lessor charge, I honestly don't know. As most attorney's are egotistically driven, and prefer to have a clean track record of wins, especially attorneys like Angela Corey, I don't think she would do that seeking acquital or mis-trial. If anything, I would believe she overcharged him hoping for plea or conviction to the lessor charge of Manslaughter. Proving Zimmerman's intent, as she would have to for the Murder 2 charge would be impossible in this case. There is simply too much history in George Zimmerman's background to prove the shooting was racially motivated. It wasn't.

Was Trayvon Martin profiled? Not beyond the fact that Trayvon Martin fit the profile of known suspects in previous burglary cases in the neighborhood. There wasn't any clearly defined malicious intent. Zimmerman has blacks in his own family, he's sponsored black children, he's mentored black children, he has black friends, he's helped blacks in the neighborhood, he's offered his help to other blacks in teh neighboorhood, all of this has been documented. There is NO race card to play here. And, that is where she's going to lose her Murder 2 conviction. And, Zimmerman was not willfully "uncaring of other's well being", which she would also have to prove.

I do know the charge defused the racial tensions drastically, and I know that if they seat at least a few blacks on the jury, and wind up with a hung jury or an acquital, it will go a long way to toward resolving the issue of race riots and burning down half the state of Florida, IF JJ and Al and Corrine Brown and whoever the [beeep] else thinks they are leaders in the black community, will have the balls to step forward and say, "OK... We had our day in court, and although it is maybe not the verdict we hoped for, the evidence has been presented, and justice has been served." Unfortunately, I don't see any of them, or Holder or Obama having the balls to stand before the black community and say that. They will instead scream racism, and shout from the roof tops about how unfairly they were treated, and do everything in their power to cause the black community to conduct themselves as the uncivilized third world inhabitants they typically are in these matters.




 
Originally Posted By: tnshootistThat's right HB.When the police investigated and the DA declined to charge someone found another DA who would press charges.What has that got to do with media?Is that not what happened?Is this not the 2nd DA to look at this case?Why can you not understand that the 2nd DA brought charges to avoid riots,not seek justice.Those people down there are afraid.Don't you remember the reward,remember Spike Lee?Remember the elderly couple who were terrorised because the wrong address was given out?Don't be so naive.

That's a silly theory. Charging someone with a crime doesn't resolve the case. In fact, riots would be more likely after an innocent verdict than over Zimmerman never being charged.
 
Originally Posted By: HunterBear71Originally Posted By: tnshootistThat's right HB.When the police investigated and the DA declined to charge someone found another DA who would press charges.What has that got to do with media?Is that not what happened?Is this not the 2nd DA to look at this case?Why can you not understand that the 2nd DA brought charges to avoid riots,not seek justice.Those people down there are afraid.Don't you remember the reward,remember Spike Lee?Remember the elderly couple who were terrorised because the wrong address was given out?Don't be so naive.

That's a silly theory. Charging someone with a crime doesn't resolve the case. In fact, riots would be more likely after an innocent verdict than over Zimmerman never being charged.

Thank you HB, you just explained why there will never be a verdict of innocent. The blindfold just slipped off of Lady Justice.
 

10:28 PM, 10 June 2012

Originally Posted By: HunterBear71Hm, you were the voice of reason that suggested that everyone allow the justice system to work. It is disappointing that you have decided that the justice system may be incapable of resolving the case.

The guy is either guilty of second degree murder or he is innocent. A jury is just as capable and as intelligent as you are and can certainly decide the issue.

12:57 AM, 11 June 2012

Originally Posted By: hm1996It is a shame that the justice system has been perverted by MSM inuendo, distorted "news stories" and outright manufactured evidence imposed on the public solely for the purpose of increasing ratings and selling newspapers and further, pressured by JJ, Al and others who fanned the flames of racial division for self agrandization. Had the propagandists and instigators let the justice system work originally, I would have had much more faith in the system and Zimmerman would have had a much better chance of receiving a fair and impartial trial by his peers.

As I said earlier, it will be most difficult, if not impossible, to seat an impartial jury. First off, with the racial tension that Al & crew have set in motion, any intelligent jury member would have in mind the ramifications (for jury members and/or their families and, even the local community) should the not guilty verdict be indicated by the evidence presented in the courtroom, or, even if a reduced charge should be negotiated due to the fact that the special prosecutor may very well have, for whatever reasons, set the stakes higher than the evidence supports.

Regards,
hm

12:14 PM, 11 June 2012

Originally Posted By: HunterBear71That's a silly theory. Charging someone with a crime doesn't resolve the case. In fact, riots would be more likely after an innocent verdict than over Zimmerman never being charged.

You just made my point, HB. Couldn't have said it better myself.

I will disagree with the first half of your sentence, however, as there certainly would have been riots had the special prosecutor not filed charges against Zimmerman. JJ, Al and all their co-conspirators would have continued to fan the flames to assure such an outcome.

Regards,
hm
 
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