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itsarufflifehere

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My. Farm in Ohio the coyote are building up and bold and comfortable.
Is it possible to bait them at one spot regularly and have blind set up to shoot durring day once they are accustomed with a 22 rifle, and after one, would others avoid area.
 
itsarufflifehere said:
My. Farm in Ohio the coyote are building up and bold and comfortable.
Is it possible to bait them at one spot regularly and have blind set up to shoot durring day once they are accustomed with a 22 rifle, and after one, would others avoid area.
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I'm not a gun person and rifle is in barn, the shells they gave me are
Cci stinger 22lr 22 long rifle copper plated hollow point
Have used last summer only to dispatch groundhogs doing damage with tunnels
 
In my opinion, you are not going to get the results you expect with what you have asked. They may show up during the day, but more likely under the cover of darkness. Your 22 rimfire is not the best choice for dispatching coyotes. You are quite a bit under gunned. If it’s all you have, you should setup your blind very close to the bait using the prevailing winds in your favor.

Coyotes are incredibly wary and challenging for experienced hunters. If you read through the “Baiting” sub forum you will get an idea of what to expect, and perhaps pick up some pointers on how to improve your chances of success.

In my opinion, I would start with getting a centerfire rifle to shoot any willing coyotes at a further distance to up your odds of success. Don’t expect them to be there every time you look at the bait pile.

Good luck to you.
 
You also might check with your county extension service/agent about coyote control in your area. It might be better for you to have a local trapper come in or learn to trap coyotes yourself.

Spending time in a blind waiting for a coyote to show up especially during the day is quite time consuming if you are working the farm also. Traps/snares work 12/7, but there is a learning curve to have them work successfully for you.

Also you might check with your local game warden to see if there are any predator callers in your area that would hunt your farm day or night if legal.

22lr is great for dispatching a coyote in a trap, not so great for shooting coyotes at a distance. You need the sit in the blind continuously. After the first shot there is a good chance your coyotes will go nocturnal.

If none of the above work out for you, it is going to be like fences, it's going to cost money to do it.

Bait pile within shooting distance of the house

Infrared illuminator and proximity alarm at the bait pile wired/wireless to the house.

Highpowered rifle 223 with HUNTING ammo and night vision scope that you've learned to shoot WELL. When a coyote comes to the bait pile an alarm goes off in the house and you can shoot from the house without alerting him.

There is no easy way to control coyotes other than paying someone else to do it.
 
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I agree with everything AWS just laid out for you. Solid advice.

I honestly had the same thoughts in my head when I posted above. I decided to cut it to a more direct answer to what you asked because it was around 3AM while fighting with my insomnia! Lol… I figured time was better spent trying to get some sleep rather than playing on my phone!
 
AWS said:
You also might check with your county extension service/agent about coyote control in your area. It might be better for you to have a local trapper come in or learn to trap coyotes yourself.

Spending time in a blind waiting for a coyote to show up especially during the day is quite time consuming if you are working the farm also. Traps/snares work 12/7, but there is a learning curve to have them work successfully for you.

Also you might check with your local game warden to see if there are any predator callers in your area that would hunt your farm day or night if legal.

22lr is great for dispatching a coyote in a trap, not so great for shooting coyotes at a distance. You need the sit in the blind continuously. After the first shot there is a good chance your coyotes will go nocturnal.

If none of the above work out for you, it is going to be like fences, it's going to cost money to do it.

Bait pile within shooting distance of the house

Infrared illuminator and proximity alarm at the bait pile wired/wireless to the house.

Highpowered rifle 223 with HUNTING ammo and night vision scope that you've learned to shoot WELL. When a coyote comes to the bait pile an alarm goes off in the house and you can shoot from the house without alerting him.

There is no easy way to control coyotes other than paying someone else to do it.
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Thanks for valuable information, was talking to the game warden last summer about building a permanent live trap so I could dispatch in cage and release non targets....and answer was.......good luck but little chance of success ........
With area filling around me have to be discreet......lots of loose dogs, cats, and dogooders, tree huggers, peta, anti trap/hunt and who knows what other wackos are ready to cause trouble.
Probably going to cage idea in a brush area, where scat is found on my field access road. I know they eat voles, field mice and groundhog by observing occasionally. Thanks again
 
I would suggest googling "Cage Trapping Coyotes" there is a lot of info out there. Coyotes are notoriously hard to cage trap so learn everything you can before you start. Once you educate one it will be very difficult to get him in a cage again.

I cage trap feral cats here and my pet feral cat got caught once. I can have her favorite food in the trap and she won't go near it.
 
AWS said:
I would suggest googling "Cage Trapping Coyotes" there is a lot of info out there. Coyotes are notoriously hard to cage trap so learn everything you can before you start. Once you educate one it will be very difficult to get him in a cage again.

I cage trap feral cats here and my pet feral cat got caught once. I can have her favorite food in the trap and she won't go near it.
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Know what you're talking about on cage avoiding, hve same problem with racoon people trap in subdivisions and release in rural area, which in ohio are to be dispatched not relocated.
For these smart racoon found in my barn, I made a rough drop trap with homemade trip. Wiring it open with bait for a few days, they walk right under and trip.
Talked to a guy in north California losing poultry to coyote, and foothold are illegal, has cage trap set all year with door wired open and intermittent electronic distressed prey call, and when notices regular activity sets cage door. Says catches them before doing damage but new ones keep coming.
 
Man reading your post, it sounds like you need to shore up access to your barn or barns. If critters are getting in, then start there.
I’d find a local trapper to show you the ropes with footholds. I know some states only allow cages and my hats off to those guys that consistently catch coyotes in them. I use a few coon cages from time to time and catch everything but coyotes in them.
 
In suburbs I have seen coyote moving about during the day, but as expressed most coyote areas(where hunting occurs) feeding is mostly at night. Occasionally on small farms when the moon is rising in the afternoon I will get a photo of coyote on bait during daylight. Or if moon is setting shortly after sunrise I will get a visit up to 9am. But it is really once/twice between Oct- March. Would not be a good control method.
 
spotstalkshoot said:
In suburbs I have seen coyote moving about during the day, but as expressed most coyote areas(where hunting occurs) feeding is mostly at night. Occasionally on small farms when the moon is rising in the afternoon I will get a photo of coyote on bait during daylight. Or if moon is setting shortly after sunrise I will get a visit up to 9am. But it is really once/twice between Oct- March. Would not be a good control method.
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Here in ohio its getting bad, just few yrs ago a police was helping motorist broke down and coyote walked up and bit him, other police tracked it down shot. Another time kid playing in back yard was bitten and under went rabies treatment, pet dogs are always carried off seen on security cams. The cemetery I vist regularly they are visible going after chipmunk living under head stones, in my hay fields at broken tile areas, are seen hunting voles and field mice, often jumping straight up and comming down on front legs catching prey.
have an idea for live cage trap to avoid non targets think will work, although many , I understand feel it's a futile attempt.
If you look up Boston, Mass. coyote attacks on YouTube, it's a routine event carrying off pets and yes biting people.
Will have to keep notice of moon thing you described.
Thanks for your interest.
 
22 mag with a suppressor at a minimum. i use a suppressed .223, never had a landowner tell us they could hear us shoot.
 
.223 Rem with the right suppressor is quiet. I've shot coyotes 100 yards from land owners front doors and I've specifically asked them if they've heard shots and all have said no.
 
Not sure where you’re getting your info, but footholds are legal in NC and Ohio. Non-targets can be released from footholds as well. If you catch someone’s dog, just make sure your doors on your truck are shut, otherwise you may have a passenger for a day, 😂
 
AWS gave some good advice about hunting from a baited blind. If you are doing it for fun and want to be successful, it will cost you in both time and money. If you are only doing it to control the coyote population then trapping is your best bet. Visit the Baiting thread and you will find lots of good information. Strike up conversations and you will get lots of good advice.

I have been seriously baiting coyotes since 2011. I had the notion like probably most non-baiters that you just throw out some bait and coyotes would be all over it in short order and in the daytime. I quickly found out that isn’t true and that hunting out of a popup blind in the cold in daylight hours is no fun, and not productive. I have learned since that coyotes visit the bait probably 95% of the time after dark, and they can show up anywhere from slightly after dark all the way up to just before daylight. Be prepared for a long night. You won’t be able to set up all night, scanning so use battery powered driveway sensors to alert you when something is on the bait like AWS insinuated. You need a comfortable bunk of some sort so you can rest during the process.

I would consider using a caliber larger than a rimfire if your laws allow it.

Baiting coyotes can be very productive, but requires time and money to get started, ie a warm shack to shoot from (or house), night vision though it can be done with red lights, just not as effectively, a comfortable bunk, sensors and time spent both in keeping the area baited and in hunting.

As to scaring off other coyotes when you shoot, it can but also I have shot doubles on multiple nights. Some times I have killed one like earlier in the night and then get another sometime later the same night. One time I shot a coyote and 20 minutes later dropped another one as he was standing over the dead one. Also, a good rule of thumb is, if two are together and happen to be a male and a female (if you can determine that), then shoot the female first. The male will most likely run off due to the sound of the shot but many times will return, but not the other way around. That may sound sexist, but I’m too old to care. I guess it shows that males are more loyal and hang around while females cut out at the first sign of a problem. But also, one time I shot two males within just a few minutes of each other. I guess they were either young and stupid, or maybe gay. lol.

If you need more info about baiting, I will be glad to help, or as mentioned, talk to other guys in the Baiting thread.
 
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6mm06 said:
AWS gave some good advice about hunting from a baited blind. If you are doing it for fun and want to be successful, it will cost you in both time and money. If you are only doing it to control the coyote population then trapping is your best bet. Visit the Baiting thread and you will find lots of good information. Strike up conversations and you will get lots of good advice.

I have been seriously baiting coyotes since 2011. I had the notion like probably most non-baiters that you just throw out some bait and coyotes would be all over it in short order and in the daytime. I quickly found out that isn’t true and that hunting out of a popup blind in the cold in daylight hours is no fun, and not productive. I have learned since that coyotes visit the bait probably 95% of the time after dark, and they can show up anywhere from slightly after dark all the way up to just before daylight. Be prepared for a long night. You won’t be able to set up all night, scanning so use battery powered driveway sensors to alert you when something is on the bait like AWS insinuated. You need a comfortable bunk of some sort so you can rest during the process.

I would consider using a caliber larger than a rimfire if your laws allow it.

Baiting coyotes can be very productive, but requires time and money to get started, ie a warm shack to shoot from (or house), night vision though it can be done with red lights, just not as effectively, a comfortable bunk, sensors and time spent both in keeping the area baited and in hunting.

As to scaring off other coyotes when you shoot, it can but also I have shot doubles on multiple nights. Some times I have killed one like earlier in the night and then get another sometime later the same night. One time I shot a coyote and 20 minutes later dropped another one as he was standing over the dead one. Also, a good rule of thumb is, if two are together and happen to be a male and a female (if you can determine that), then shoot the female first. The male will most likely run off due to the sound of the dhot but many times will return, but not the other way around. That may sound sexist, but I’m too old to care. I guess it shows that males are more loyal and hang around while females cut out at the first sign of a problem. lol.

If you need more info about baiting, I will be glad to help, or as mentioned, talk to other guys in the Baiting thread.
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Thanks everyone for what sounds like a lot of experienced hands on facts and advice, will have to figure out what I'm going to do to reduce coyote numbers and start as soon as winter lets up, the only thing that puzzles me is why, looks like nationwide, coyote cannot be reduced like the wolf was in north America, thanks again
 
I was in a meeting one time and sat beside a wildlife biologist in Virginia and had a chance to talk to him about coyotes. He then gave a presentation, part of which he expanded on the coyote, and the fact that it’s nearly impossible to control them, ie in a big sort of way. He mentioned that when pressured by hunting that coyotes just reproduce more. He gave a statistical example, that if you want to really bring coyotes under control that you would have to take a big percentage of them annually for 20 years, but if you did everything right up to year 19 and then didn’t take many, then you lost the game. Theoretical stuff on paper, but an analogy of the difficult task of controlling them. I am assuming he was correct with that information. He mentioned two other animals that are nearly impossible to control in any meaningful way, that being muskrats and gray squirrels.
 
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I was in a meeting one time and sat beside a wildlife biologist in Virginia and had a chance to talk to him about coyotes. He then gave a presentation, part of which he expanded on the coyote, and the fact that it’s nearly impossible to control them, ie in a big sort of way. He mentioned that when pressured by hunting that coyotes just reproduce more. He gave a statistical example, that if you want to really bring coyotes under control that you would have to take a big percentage of them annually for 20 years, but if you did everything right up to year 19 and then didn’t take many, then you lost the game. Theoretical stuff on paper, but an analogy of the difficult task of controlling them. I am assuming he was correct with that information. He mentioned two other animals that are nearly impossible to control in any meaningful way, that being muskrats and gray squirrels.
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Right, I read that somewhere, reproduce more when numbers are dropping, also saw years ago on PBS a documentary about Ohio State University professor doing study on coyote within city of Chicago, of all place's.
Don't know if it stopped or still ongoing, but what I took away was:
Don't
Feed them
Have household garbage accessible
Leave pet food out
Have pets unattended
Run away from them
Let them know you're afraid
Walk without some sort of striking pole
or loud noise maker.

Basically just learn to coexist with them
 
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