This is crazy, data center boom

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Both are getting approval through sneaky means.
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A few just got approved near me, everyone is throwing a shit fit about it, they approved it anyhow.
 
We need to be more strategic, thoughtful and methodical in ramping up AI data centers in the U.S. But, we do NEED to ramp them up. Big time. China is going to stomp a mud hole in us if we don't. On many fronts that one might not associate with AI. But AI is going to be associated with everything. And particularly global disinformation. Which is the only information anyone is going to be getting.

- DAA
 
China has 700 Million cameras. thats roughly 1 for every 2 citizens .

The United States has an estimated 70 million to 85 million surveillance cameras installed nationwide. This averages out to roughly one camera for every 4 to 4.6 people. This number is going up exponentially.
 
these are spy centers. the data they are collecting is all about us in a huge way. Thank you George Bush and the patriot act.

if you thought the covid lock downs were a test, we havent seen anything yet.

there is a massive manure storm coming.
 
I think AI will be revolutionary but I still think its not the promise many feel it will be. Just like the internet got rid of libraries and encyclopedias certain things will change. I am less bullish than many of the techies about it. I also think the data center deal will somewhat obsolete itself and that much of the computing will be pushed out to end devices. I see large data centers no longer needed and that computing will be more compact and efficient and that will change very quickly. There is actually a very clear history of that happening. heck I can get 2 TB's on a micro sd card! You had to have a very expensive hard drive not all that long ago to hold that. I think for a lot of applications faster computing power hasn't been the huge push it once was like say in the late 90's and 2000's where computers that were a year old were obsolete. I think there will be a similar renewed push to bring massive improvements in computing power and that money and time will once again be a huge focus there.

another prediction. I think AI stocks are in a massive bubble, I think its NOT clear that these stocks have the cash flow or anywhere near it to maintain the values they have. Its speculation on the order of the famous tulip story. its also the reason for nearly all the stock market gains is the AI stocks. I think a .com style bubble is brewing or worse. I think this has been difficult to pop because you have a steady drip of investment from main street in the form of constant investment in index funds by 401k's and pensions. the bigger the bubble the larger the pop.
 
steve garrett said:
I also think the data center deal will somewhat obsolete itself and that much of the computing will be pushed out to end devices. I see large data centers no longer needed and that computing will be more compact and efficient and that will change very quickly.

another prediction. I think AI stocks are in a massive bubble, I think its NOT clear that these stocks have the cash flow or anywhere near it to maintain the values they have.
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I don't doubt that eventually, personal devices will have enough computing power to do real AI. But that's a long way off. It will take quantum computing in our devices. Long way off from that. What today takes 8 gigawatts of power and a hundred acres, isn't going to be running on a desktop for a long time.

But, even when devices have the computing power... Another reason it won't be happening on our devices, is secrecy. A lot of what those super scaling data centers are doing, isn't ever going to be shared with the public. What will happen, for sure, is the increased computing power in our devices will be used to capture more and more data from us every second of every day - from our devices. I'm sure the day will come, that you'll have to have such a powerful device, so you can get your open heart surgery done in the kiosk at Walmart.

Agree that AI stocks are a bubble. But, again, what people are calling "AI" isn't really AI. The companies call it that for marketing. Comparing the LLM's and such we use to AI is kind of like saying the lips and assholes that are in hot dogs are "beef".

Real AI isn't public. It's not traded. There are no stocks to buy. It's funded by nations, military, huge corporations, for their own use and not for anyone else. That's going to keep growing exponentially. But that's real AI. Not some ChatGPT bullcrap. I mentioned quantum computing. I'm not sure that is really going to be the future, it might turn into a dead end. But, "something" will come along that raises computing power exponentially. Most people working in that space think AI will come up with it (actual AI, not lips and assholes marketed as beef).

- DAA
 
One big company just found out their AI use budget was huge and has to cut back - on people. Kinda like people with 5-6 streaming movie accounts.
 
someone is going to have to figure out how to supply people with a universal income. AI will take millions of jobs and leave people with no way to buy anything.

cant buy food, people will take it. AI is going to create a massive increase in crime, violent crime.
 

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Isn’t it interesting that, while Fink is so pressingly concerned about “improving infrastructure” that he insists on raiding grandma’s Social Security for the capital, he shows no interest whatsoever in repairing bridges or roads or desalination plants to deal with the coming water shortage?

No — his concern over “infrastructure” very narrowly focuses on AI data centers for his panopticon.

Weird, but probably an innocent oversight.

He means well — did you see his nerdy, angelic aesthetic? That means he’s a good and progressive person who exclusively eats lab-produced meat to fight global warming and subscribes to the sacred axiom that Trans Rights Are Human Rights™.

You can trust Larry Fink; he loves you and wants you to be happy.

Those AI data centers are going to be used exclusively for your benefit.
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