22 Ammo - Walmart/Cabelas - the rest of the story!

Rocky1

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Anyone still have any doubts we are not the cause???

















These videos are endless on You Tube! Some of the yo-yos have NUMEROUS videos of their score for the day.

And, even after Walmart took action to curb ammo these hoarders from using their website to buy ammo up, they've worked around it to access that information. And, are still figuring out ways to find out which stores to hit for their ammo hoarding purposes.

 
I still think that ultimately the Government is the cause, these guys are just trying to take advantage of the situation. I really hope that nothing comes from the 'fear factor' and these guys eat their hordes. They may run into trouble selling it. Then again if SHTF they will have some good trading stock. It's hard to comprehend that there are enough people doing that and it results in the Nationwide .22 shortage. The manufacturers must be making a fortune.
 
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Originally Posted By: Infidel 762What would the government use 22 ammo for?

It's just the 'scare' of this Government and the thought that if SHTF, and .22 is considered to be one of the most popular survival calibers. I believe that is the reason for the hoarding.
 
I always figured I would let them buy it and store it. If the time comes I need it, I will get it. But I don't foresee needing any of it.
 
If it comes down to buying it from them, I'll probably forego needing it. I expect to have a enough of everything else that 22 LR. will not be necessary.
 
Originally Posted By: Rocky1If it comes down to buying it from them, I'll probably forego needing it. I expect to have a enough of everything else that 22 LR. will not be necessary.

My sentiments exactly
 
A friend of mine who worked in the sporting goods department at Walmart told me that there was a small group of people who would always show up every time they received ammo. He thought they were all aquainted with each other by the way they acted. I suspect that a lot of people were, and still are, buying ammo for the purpose of reselling it. I can't really say as I blame them, as it takes all kinds to make the world go round.
 
Originally Posted By: Rocky1If it comes down to buying it from them, I'll probably forego needing it. I expect to have a enough of everything else that 22 LR. will not be necessary.

I did not say anything about buying from them. If it gets that bad there will be plenty of stuff just for picking up. Do people really think under those circumstances a free market and fair trade will exist. The rules will be suspended. If a man makes it through the first encounter with the roving gangs he will have some stuff to get started. I might try to swap Rocky some Gorilla tape for a Grenade maybe.
It does really suck that those kind of profiteers are causing a hardship on people who would like to start young people in the shooting sports. Target shooting is something anyone almost can compete at or just enjoy regardless of sex or size unlike some other sports.
 
FL law may be unique in this regard, but if a state of emergency has been declared it's illegal to buy or sell guns or ammo, including private transactions. You can't even possess a gun in public during such a state.

best be stocked up before something happens, bc if you don't have it, you won't be able to legally get it.
 
Agreed, but in such a state the survival of my family will take priority over obeying any dictate.

Especially if that dictate includes the confiscation of firearms.

And if some government backed SS paramilitary force comes to collect my weapons I hope they are armed with all this 22 ammo they have been buying.
 
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Originally Posted By: tnshootistI always figured I would let them buy it and store it. If the time comes I need it, I will get it. But I don't foresee needing any of it.

+1!


I bought a new Savage MKII a few weeks back and went to find some 22 ammo, surely it's died down by now right? Wrong! The same stuff here. The 2 times I was able to find a walmart that had any the first cock sucker in line bought every box (about $800 the first time). After talking around a bit, I learned it's the same situation here. Guys are literally sleeping there to be first in line and buy every box available and then flipping it on local websites.

I just don't understand why people are still buying it. Personally, I have a new 22 rifle but I'll happily wait to shoot it. If people would just stop buying from these people for a couple weeks, the whole thing would be over and I really believe that. I've seen and talked to a few of these guys buying it all. They aren't guys who have $800 laying around to stockpile ammo. They are people who have the time to sleep in a walmart for 12hrs to use the last profit they made to buy more ammo. If they stopped making money, they'd stop buying.
 
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At some point with the volume they are making the ammo buyers are going to be flooded.

The thing is that you can and people will buy something if they think they can turn around and sell it for a quick buck for a few hours of work and doubling their money.
The best part is going to be when they stuck holding the bag with a pile of ammo..
Most of these guys on Youtube sound like idiots and will be stuck with the stuff and the prices will drop when they all start to dump it before they are left holding it.

You can't pay the electric bill with 22LR ammo, and they will need the money.
 
You really can't blame it on preppers thinking they need it. .22 is borderline useless. If I wanted a SD round for the end of the world, it wouldn't be that. If I wanted a hunting round, it wouldn't be that. And even if it was the ideal hunting round, 2 bricks would last you and everyone you know for the rest of their lives keeping food on the table. It may take 338 rabbits per box (assuming 1 shot 1 kill) but 1 round of 30-06 will put more meat in the freezer.

If I was worried about bad guys, and I was the bad guy that just had to have your hoard of useless ammo I'll just sit back a bit with any rifle I own until I get tired of watching you make noise with your plinker and then pop you from a distance. So again, bordeline useless.

I think it's just dumb people thinking they're collecting beenie babies. When the craze is over they're sitting on $100 worth of merchandise they paid $100k for. Then they offload the whole lot for $50 to recoup what they can. And the next scare they'll do it all over again. You can't fix stupid.

For the rest of the normal thinking world, they're annoying.
 
Originally Posted By: Rocky1And, are still figuring out ways to find out which stores to hit for their ammo hoarding purposes.


I think you are being a little cynical here. Some people "figuring out ways to find out which stores to hit" were people that just wanted ammo, and decided that being at walmart every day was not as easy as only showing up when it shows up. Some people were living in Japan when Sandy Hook happened, and didn't have a chance to buy ammo when it was plentiful, and then moved away from the family stash and had to have his own. The few times I have been there lately there are three kinds of peopele. The reseller/neckbeard, the men in charge of ammo, usually a father or grandfather, and then people who like to shoot that I honestly wouldn't even call hoarders.

And just so you know, looking for ammo is as easy as going to walmart's website and bookmarking pages.

Originally Posted By: Tbone-AZand the prices will drop when they all start to dump it before they are left holding it.

Except that in the last year prices have risen. Federal Automatch $5 for 325 rounds. Sure it may drop in the future, but I highly doubt that. Do you think that will happen with the current government? With people in KY still paying 12-15 cents a round I really don't see any reseller bottoming out prices, they go through ammo too fast to have a stockpile.

Quote:You can't pay the electric bill with 22LR ammo, and they will need the money.

But you can trade for guns, and money, and have more than when you started. Dealers are buying at 10 cents per round of .22 still.

Originally Posted By: kymailman98He thought they were all aquainted with each other by the way they acted.

When you stand around for an hour or more in the sporting goods area of Walmart at 5-6 AM, what else are you going to do?
 
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Originally Posted By: DustI think you are being a little cynical here. Some people "figuring out ways to find out which stores to hit" were people that just wanted ammo, and decided that being at walmart every day was not as easy as only showing up when it shows up. Some people were living in Japan when Sandy Hook happened, and didn't have a chance to buy ammo when it was plentiful, and then moved away from the family stash and had to have his own. The few times I have been there lately there are three kinds of peopele. The reseller/neckbeard, the men in charge of ammo, usually a father or grandfather, and then people who like to shoot that I honestly wouldn't even call hoarders.

And just so you know, looking for ammo is as easy as going to walmart's website and bookmarking pages.


REALLY???

Did you watch the last video?? Walmart has disabled the "Which stores have ammo in stock link" on their website, trying to slow the hoarders down a little. The gentleman in the last video is using Google Chrome to open the product page in code, finding the link on said page that is being blocked, enabling the link in question in test mode in the browser, and opening that link in test mode, to determine which stores have ammo in stock.

And, this is a second end around that has been published on You Tube to show people how to work around Walmart's website blocking that information. And, I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that anyone going to that much trouble to find ammo at Walmart, probably isn't just looking to pick up a box or two to carry the kids plinkin. If they were, they probably wouldn't be publishing their methods for all to see.

And, to prove that point, if you click on the YouTube link on that last video up there, and go to that individual's account, you will find that he has 643 videos on You Tube. Since his video 8 months ago boasting 13,000 rounds of 22 LR stockpiled, he has made 30 videos depicting purchases of more than a thousand rounds of 22 LR.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that is what would be referred to as a hoarder!

AND, THAT WAS JUST THE 22LR AMMO!!
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Originally Posted By: NdIndy When the craze is over they're sitting on $100 worth of merchandise they paid $100k for.

not really. they are buying it at todays normal price. i dont see the cost of ammo at walmart today being less in 6 months. probly more.
 
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As far as the 22 being "useless" for a survivalist's gun, stop and think about it for a minute. One can carry on their person, or store, a lot more 22 rounds they can any other caliber. A 22 rifle is a good small game caliber, and it doesn't make a lot of noise, so it would difficult for someone to hear which direction a shot came from. On my list of survivalist firearms, a Ruger 10-22 is close to the top of the list. It's reliable, ammo is easy to find, you can carry a lot of ammo without being weighted down, and you can pretty much configure it any way you want. It's true that I'd much prefer a 223 or a 308 AR type rifle for serious fighting, or a good 12 guage shotgun for close range stuff, but a good 22 rifle would be much more preferable to a bow and arrow, or a rock.
 
went to a gun show saturday to try & sell a Contender.

3 tables had 22LR, but not at prices I would pay. try CCI Mini Mags, 110 for $20, or 550 Federal for $75.

Stopped at bass pro shops on the way home, got the last of their remington, 4 boxes of 50 at $2.50 per box.

I have also bought Mini mags at BPS recently for under $8 per box.

The retail price really hasn't gone up, anyone, dealer or not, charging a lot is doing so bc they think they can.

I don't need it bad enough to get ripped off, so I don't pay it. When I find ammo at a decent price I'll buy some but when it's too high i have no problem walking away from it.

I was at the show most of the day & I didn't see any of this ammo leave a table.

On the other hand, Alabama Arms had a large setup, mostly reloading supplies but also factory ammo (no 22. she said she orders it but they don't ship it). Her prices were reasonable & I watched her do brisk sales the entire time i was there, where the jacked up tables seemed to talk to lots of people but not sell much of anything.
 
In 2000/2001 we were shooting a lot of .22. You could get Fed Gold Medal Match for $9 a box,less if you bought several bricks. Winchester wildcat for 99 cents a box and it shot pretty well if you weighed it into lots. I still have a brick or two of the fed match. I think I am going to include it in my will.
 
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