thanks guys , the only time i would shoot a coyote with one is if im out and about and i get a good shot on it ,, i bought me a cheap .22 mag and im having problems with how accurate it is.. it wasnt in the best of shape rust on the barrel and the bore and action had a lot of gunk in it ,, i got it homw cleaned it really good. took it out and shot it at 50 and 100yrds.. at 100yrds i was geting a inch group with 40grain fmj and almost a 2inch group with 30 v-max( had a flyer),( i blow alot of stuff out of the bore) got home cleaned again , so i took it back yesterday and i was lucky to get a 3inch group with the 30 v-max and 1 1/2 with 40 fmj at first intill the barrel got full of gunk . the dirty it got the better it shot ..... the bore looks good but do you think maybe it has pitted the barrel ,, its makeing me mad b/c i hate a gun that dont shoot well... i have heard good about hte .17hmr and was think about trading this onr of for one