6.5 Creedmore ????

Originally Posted By: RustydustI think that says it very well. I have no .264 bore rifles at all anymore and have no need for one. But if I had a hankering for one I'm sure that the .260 or .260 AI would suit me just fine.

Ya see Russ, it's that kind of thinking, why you don't get to sit at the "cool kids" table.
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Its just great marketing. Unless you are really interested in long range I see no point. Everyone thinks they are some kind of military sniper these days, and the CM is fueling the fad.
 
What is it that the Creedmoor does not do that makes some dislike it so much.

I believe the shooting community would have shunned it like other new hopes in the past if it was just hype.
It is just a very well rounded cartridge.

I like it a lot but that has not caused me to hate less fortunate cartridges.
 
Well I am glad I am not alone when I see it as marketing. 20-25 years ago if you had a 6.5 anything people would look at you like you made need professional help. I have nothing against it at ALL. Just don't force feed me full of crap. I think a lot of it is reduced recoil makes it easier to shoot for a majority of people.
I have at the moment two 6.5s an as issued Swede and a custom 6.5 TCU. The games I played a lot of people were shooting 6.5BR's with great success. Once again I attribute that to less recoil and some muzzle blast.
It will swing much as many mentioned in the above comments.
If I had to build a bolt gun in a 6.5 I would look at the 6.5x55,6.5-284 and the 6.5-06. I would seriously do a lot of reading and research.
IMHO a larger cartridge can be loaded down, but when a case is small it leaves less options.

The 6.5 is doing to me what the 45acp did years back. Every gun rag I see as it plastered all over the front page.
 
Forgot about the reduced recoil thing. Guess this is a more kind and gentle world now a days.

There's something about the punishing recoil of a heavy magnum. Makes a man feel young again.
 
I see it here and other shooting forums where guys are complaining about recoil. Recoil from 22-250's being responsible for not seeing hits on prairie dogs!

I know that some people just can't handle recoil. I am not one of them, and do not see recoil as a factor in caliber choice.

I was just talking with a guy today about the fad creedmore. There are all kinds of reasons people think it is the best thing since sliced bread. There is factory ammo, big deal. I have not bought loaded ammo other than rimfire or 50 BMG in at least 2 decades. Fits in a short action, big deal again, is that .5" longer action really a big deal?
If I were in the market for another 6.5mm caliber, I would do a 6.5-06 or a 260AI.
 
I only have one “big game” rifle. I had a win model 70 in 280 rem that wouldn’t shoot for crap. I got sick of putting time and money into it so I traded it on a ruger ftw in 6.5 creedmoor. I’ve had it for about 2 years and it shoots just about every handload I’ve made for it very well. I’ve settled on 2 loads. 123 Eld match and 143 eldx. If I didn’t get the 6.5 I was going to buy a 7mm-08. Guess I drank the Kool-aide...
 
It is truly amazing how many people are missing out by being cynical. It doesn’t have to be the Creedmoor, but a bite sized 6.5 (or their 6mm offspring) are about as much fun as you can have with your clothes on.

But hey... keep rocking those ‘06s.
 
For a lot of people reloading isn’t an option for one reason or another. Having a mid range caliber with plenty of factory loading makes it very appealing to the masses. Is it the greatest thing... that is all in the eye of the beholder
 
Originally Posted By: CZ527It is truly amazing how many people are missing out by being cynical. It doesn’t have to be the Creedmoor, but a bite sized 6.5 (or their 6mm offspring) are about as much fun as you can have with your clothes on.

But hey... keep rocking those ‘06s.

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Your argument is about as weak as saying that Fords get better gas mileage than Chevys at your house, or vice versa, so every one should drive a Ford like you do.

I'm not "rocking" a 6.5 Bestever or an '06 at my house very often, even though I have both, and life is still good. What am I missing that's suddenly so important ?

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What is being missed is all the 6.5 shooters that are happy if you shoot something else.

All this 6.5 hate must be left over from WWII.

Entry level rifles that may not shoot as good as expected can't be blamed on the cartridge.

I thought the cartridge was developed over ten years ago. I thought it was proved in competition to be capable of winning.
Only after time did Lapua make brass for it for example.Don't seem like hype to me.
Just another good choice. What is wrong with that.

If you plan to shoot a moose at 500 meters something bigger might be in order.
If you want to ding steel to better than 1000 it's good for that and don't wreck targets like a .338 Lapua or cost as much to shoot.
 
Originally Posted By: tnshootistWhat is being missed is all the 6.5 shooters that are happy if you shoot something else.

All this 6.5 hate must be left over from WWII.

Entry level rifles that may not shoot as good as expected can't be blamed on the cartridge.

I thought the cartridge was developed over ten years ago. I thought it was proved in competition to be capable of winning.
Only after time did Lapua make brass for it for example.Don't seem like hype to me.
Just another good choice. What is wrong with that.

If you plan to shoot a moose at 500 meters something bigger might be in order.
If you want to ding steel to better than 1000 it's good for that and don't wreck targets like a .338 Lapua or cost as much to shoot.

I don't think for most people its "6.5 hate" (me included - I own a 6.5 CM). It's being told that if they don't shoot one that they're missing the good times. BS bought and paid for by good marketing and nothing else.

Calm down. Its nothing to stroke out over.
 
[/quote] Yes its better. How many more people need to say that for you to understand.
Ackleymans post was spot on!!!
Nothing like the 6 or 30BR, whole different ball game. [/quote]

I don't know about you, but I have only been reloading for about 50 years. So forgive me if I wasn't born with all the information required. I learn things about reloading and accuracy all the time. When I ask questions, I am looking for all the information I can get. Not sarcasm. You must be soooo smart.
 
Originally Posted By: 6724I see it here and other shooting forums where guys are complaining about recoil. Recoil from 22-250's being responsible for not seeing hits on prairie dogs!

I know that some people just can't handle recoil. I am not one of them, and do not see recoil as a factor in caliber choice.

I was just talking with a guy today about the fad creedmore. There are all kinds of reasons people think it is the best thing since sliced bread. There is factory ammo, big deal. I have not bought loaded ammo other than rimfire or 50 BMG in at least 2 decades. Fits in a short action, big deal again, is that .5" longer action really a big deal?
If I were in the market for another 6.5mm caliber, I would do a 6.5-06 or a 260AI.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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I remember when the whole short fat Magnum craze was ignited. Virtually overnight anything and everything with a belted case automatically sucked. And you were clueless as a shooter if you owned one. Even dumber if you attempted to reload for one. The belt on those cases were suddenly responsible for everything from poor chambering, to infertility in middle aged women. And those horribly long Magnum actions... What a disaster! Moving that bolt an extra half an inch back and forth was nothing but shooter designed insanity.

Then there was the whole issue of the much greater degree of accuracy obtainable with the short powder column, that was simply impossible to achieve in a long cased belted Magnum. Just what were these idiots thinking back in the 60's, when they came out with these long, silly belted cases, which served no applicable purpose? If you had a belted Magnum you had better sell it, and sell it fast. Because with what the short fat Magnums were offering, if you waited you would have to give it away. Rick Jameson sat back in his easy chair, smoking Cuban cigars, sipping Napoleon Brandy, enjoying his new found retirement royalties. All provided to him by Winchester, that would change the face of shooting forever.

Fast forward to today. You have to hunt for ammo for short fat Mags. And when you find it choices are limited at best, downright poor in fact. The Remington SAUM's are all but obsolete. And most every rifle in short fat chambering's today are either collecting dust on dealers racks, or else being offered heavily discounted. And silly add on's to these disasters like the .223 WSSM, and .325 WSM are more scarce than a black at a KKK meeting........ And now we have the 6.5 Creedmoor. Did someone hit the Replay button?
 
Originally Posted By: Winny FanOriginally Posted By: tnshootistWhat is being missed is all the 6.5 shooters that are happy if you shoot something else.

All this 6.5 hate must be left over from WWII.

Entry level rifles that may not shoot as good as expected can't be blamed on the cartridge.

I thought the cartridge was developed over ten years ago. I thought it was proved in competition to be capable of winning.
Only after time did Lapua make brass for it for example.Don't seem like hype to me.
Just another good choice. What is wrong with that.

If you plan to shoot a moose at 500 meters something bigger might be in order.
If you want to ding steel to better than 1000 it's good for that and don't wreck targets like a .338 Lapua or cost as much to shoot.

I don't think for most people its "6.5 hate" (me included - I own a 6.5 CM). It's being told that if they don't shoot one that they're missing the good times. BS bought and paid for by good marketing and nothing else.

Calm down. Its nothing to stroke out over.


Thanks for the concern but all quite calm here.

In my group that shoots together we have one 6.5-284,0ne 6x55AI,one .243AI,one .22-6mm,four6.5 creedmoor,one 6.5x47,one .308 and whatever any guest might bring.
Everyone shoots very close to the same except the .308. It is who is having the best day for best score.
As always it comes down to who is judging wind the best that day.

OF course there is no accounting for taste. Some people put pepper on tomato juice I hear.
 
Originally Posted By: tnshootist
In my group that shoots together we have one 6.5-284,0ne 6x55AI,one .243AI,one .22-6mm,four6.5 creedmoor,one 6.5x47,one .308 and whatever any guest might bring.
Everyone shoots very close to the same except the .308. It is who is having the best day for best score.
As always it comes down to who is judging wind the best that day.


Here are last week's top 32 scores (of a total of 86) at the 1000 yard monthly match where I shoot:

1- 6 dasher
11- 6.5x47L
2- 6xc
10- 6.5 Creedmoor
1- 6.5 saum
1- 6 BR
1- 260 Rem
1- 6 Creedmoor
2- 6x47L
1- 6.5x284
1- 223 Rem

The 6 Dasher won.

A 6.5x47L set a new range record last October.

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Originally Posted By: tnshootistOriginally Posted By: Winny FanOriginally Posted By: tnshootistWhat is being missed is all the 6.5 shooters that are happy if you shoot something else.

All this 6.5 hate must be left over from WWII.

Entry level rifles that may not shoot as good as expected can't be blamed on the cartridge.

I thought the cartridge was developed over ten years ago. I thought it was proved in competition to be capable of winning.
Only after time did Lapua make brass for it for example.Don't seem like hype to me.
Just another good choice. What is wrong with that.

If you plan to shoot a moose at 500 meters something bigger might be in order.
If you want to ding steel to better than 1000 it's good for that and don't wreck targets like a .338 Lapua or cost as much to shoot.

I don't think for most people its "6.5 hate" (me included - I own a 6.5 CM). It's being told that if they don't shoot one that they're missing the good times. BS bought and paid for by good marketing and nothing else.

Calm down. Its nothing to stroke out over.


Thanks for the concern but all quite calm here.

In my group that shoots together we have one 6.5-284,0ne 6x55AI,one .243AI,one .22-6mm,four6.5 creedmoor,one 6.5x47,one .308 and whatever any guest might bring.
Everyone shoots very close to the same except the .308. It is who is having the best day for best score.
As always it comes down to who is judging wind the best that day.

OF course there is no accounting for taste. Some people put pepper on tomato juice I hear.


Of all of those, the only one I don't own is the 6.5x55 AI. I just never saw a need to AI it, I guess, maybe 30 years ago when I have my first 6.5x55 rifle built.

My favorite on your list is my 22-6MM. Just because it makes me feel so......uh.......metrosexual and manly.

Have you ever shot at tomato juice cans? No pepper needed for sprucing that task up if you have 55 grain FMJ bullets. Just sayin'.
 
Winny... I love that picture... that is funny!!!

FW... that is interesting to see those top 32 calibers.... makes a guy think....HMMMMmmmm
 
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