6.5 x 284 questions

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Cruizin

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Well I had a custom gun made in Feb or first of March and I'm still waiting on it. My gunsmith is waiting on a stock from HS Precision. I just called them and they said they are really backed up over there. Maybe I need to go into the stock making buisness and produce stocks that are just as good as HS and McMillian but actually have a realistic turn around.

Anyways I have been thinking of the next rifle and this time I am thinking of going the savage route and buying a barrel in the 6.5 x 284. Then putting it on myself. I have 2 questions though.

What is the process for getting or making brass for this round? What dies are needed ect?

If you want a custom stock for a savage are there any options?
 
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Maybe I need to go into the stock making buisness and produce stocks that are just as good as HS and McMillian but actually have a realistic turn around.



If you have a bunch of money for tooling, that would be an interesting venture.

BUT... if you make stocks as good as McMillen and H-S, you will soon be backed up and running months behind too.

Beware of the craftsman that has little or no work.

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I am thinking of going the savage route and buying a barrel in the 6.5 x 284.

What is the process for getting or making brass for this round? What dies are needed ect?

If you want a custom stock for a savage are there any options?



You start with .284 brass, and neck it down in one step, or you can buy factory brass in 6.5x284 from Norma, Lapua, and hornady.

Go to this site:
http://www.6mmbr.com/SixFive284.html
 
LOL!!

I'm gonna' build a Lamborghini from scratch....I hate it that none of the Honda, etc. dealers have any on their used car lots where I live. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

You'll really enjoy the 6.5-284...when you get a stock for it... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

-BCB
 
i saw a 6.5-284 for sale about 10 yrs ago in Marble Falls Texas at the old burnham brothers store. It actually had a box of factory Rem ammo with it, I couldnt believe it. Too bad they dont still make it, I think its a great round, as is the 264 win mag, which Rem is making this year. I wonder if I can sneak that by my wife? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
I have one of the .264WM Sendero's on order - they start the production run in July.

I had one of the orginal Winchester "Westerner" and loved it.
Barrel life was no worse than any of the other hot small bores.
 
you had to rub it in huh!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/angry-smiley-055.gif That has to be one of the best looking guns out there, in a great caliber. I wish i could have gotten it in my browning eclipse, but they only offer 270, 7mag and 300 mag, along with the wsm's. Maybe one of these days I will have that 264... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
Rowney...

I have been shooting ferel dogs on a friends dairy farm over the years, and ranges are from 300 to 750 (so far). I have been using a 300WM with 178 A-Maxs from prone with a bipod - and it's shootable, but after a few hours, it's kicking my butt. The ferel dogs run up to about 70 pounds, so at long range, the smaller varmint rifles are iffy.

I thought the 178's were fragile, but a guy on here said that they don't come apart - he pulls them out of deer, mushroomed in one piece.

Plus, I want a more fragile bullet and Hornady makes that 95gr V-Max... so the .264 Sendero is the perfect medicine - and I have a Leupold MK4-M3 already sitting on the bench, not earning it's keep.

This should make a great 1000 yd rig. Already got the dies, cases, and bullets.
 
Check out www.accurateinnovations.com

I just ordered a stock from them and got a 4-6 week deliver date. This stock was recommended by George at GA precision.

I am having it installed on a 6.5-284 he is building for me.

I am partial to Wood stocks and these come with a full length aluminum block in the stock. It is supposed to give the rigidity of a fiber stock but still be appealing to look at and hold.
 
I'm going with the 6.5 gibbs on my next build, it uses a 270 win case, it'll outrun a 264 wm with a 30" barrel, also gonna put a laminated A-5 stock just need to choose a scope.
RR
 
That is an awesome article cat shooter. Thanks

Yeah we made a stock for Browning here at work the other day on our prototype machine and I just got to thinking about why its taking so long to make mine!!! Of course you can't use the prototype part for a real stock but you could make a mold form it.

I would imagine it can't be too much more involved than this:

Model the stock in the computer.
Make a mold of it in the computer. (20- 30hrs of work for me)
Send the mold to the CNC router that you bought for 10 or 20 grand. Might be stepping out on a limb there, but would have to price one I guess since working platform would have to be quite large.
Lay fiberglass and resin to make the stock.
Let cure.
Put back in CNC router and hog out stock.
Mount aluminum blocks.
Paint and finish.

That process should take about a week once you have the tooling made, but I'm sure there is a lot more to it than that. Does anyone know?

Wood would be even quicker.
 
Ridge Runner, that was my original intention for my rifle. I have a 270 rem 700 action to build on. Every Gunsmith I talked to, allthough they would build what ever I wanted, tried to steer me to the 6.5-284. I have been 6 months deciding which way to go. Due to me having the long action, they can cut the leade further out and give me more case capacity. I don't have to seat the bullet so deep in the case. I know the accuracy potential for the 284 will beat the 06 case. I can buy brass readily and don't have to firefrom. The barrel life with either case runs around 1000, per the smiths. I could easily use up a 1/4 of the barrel life in forming cases.

I hope this isn't hijacking the original thread. Maybe our discussion will help him decide which way to go also. What are your thoughts. Randy
 
Hey Ragn...

Glad to see you hook up with GA. You will be V-E-R-Y happy.

I S-T-I-L-L love your gizzmo /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Ridge Runner... a 6.5 Gibbs faster than a 264WM - HA! Neva happinin' It's a 60 grain case against an 80 grain case.

That's like sayin' a .223 will out run a .220 Swift... that's not happinin either /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
74.4 of water, actualy for the gibbs cat, The 264 winny is 81.51. with a 30" barrel on a gibbs, you can surpass the 264 wm with a factory tube. and if the reamer uses the 270 win as a parent case, then you have another .050" of neck to support the long bullets so accuracy is a lil better.
RR
 
Ridge dude...

The 6.5 Gibbs will get about 3300-3350 out of a 30" tube with a 100 grain bullet... the 264 WM will about 3750 with a 26" tube and the same bullet.

My .264 should be up and running by mid summer. I'll clock it with 95gr V-Maxs, and you clock your's with 95gr V-Maxs and we'll share the info for others.

OK??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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here we go comparing apples to pineapples. gotta love it.



Kinda' reminds ya' of "mine's bigger than yours" when we were kids.....doesn't it? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

-BCB
 
ok, you win, as it seems you always must, just can't see where you get your numbers from from, a standard 270 win according to hodgdon # 27, and my own experience, will do 3400 with a 100 gr, but when you improve it with the gibbs chambering and increase the case capacity by eight grains, add 6" of barrell and it slows down 50 fps??? where do they get'em?
RR
 
RR...

I'm not "Winning" - I simply offered for both of us to rrport back when we are able to clock them. After all, that's what sharing info is all about.

But do consider that the 264 case is a good bit larger, and the 4" longer barrel will add about 100fps, but that will not make up for the larger 264 case.

My offer was for knowledge, not winning.

Never mind - the 6.5 Gibbs is faster - you win.
 
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RR...

I'm not "Winning" - I simply offered for both of us to rrport back when we are able to clock them. After all, that's what sharing info is all about.

But do consider that the 264 case is a good bit larger, and the 4" longer barrel will add about 100fps, but that will not make up for the larger 264 case.

My offer was for knowledge, not winning.

Never mind - the 6.5 Gibbs is faster - you win.



LOL!! (Again!!)

Kinda' reminds ya' of "mine's bigger than yours" when we were kids.....doesn't it? (Again)

-BCB
 
For one I have never heard of a 6.5 gibbs, I assume its a 6.5-06 since we are talking about a 270 case? But a 264 win mag dominates a 270, 200 more ft/lbs, and 100 more ft/sec. So therefore I would have to figure that you might get close to the velocity, but the 264 would always win.
 
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