All you 17 remmy lovers??

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Thinking about getting a cz 17 remington for a calling rifle. Have a 223 and 22-250 that I love. But I want to see hits through the scope. Give me your pros and cons.

Thanks in advance.
 
I got my 1st .17 Remmy in 1979. It was on a Sako L461 action and it was a beauty. Back then about the only bullet that you could find for it was the Hornandy 25 grain hollow point which they still make. .17 caliber cleaning rods were hard to find as were the brushs and jags. The one that I used was made for a pellet rifle. It worked, but doubt that Hoppes #9 ever got that barrel really clean. I had to sell that gun some years later due to hard times. I sure miss it. Since then I bought me a CZ 527 and Rem 700 in that caliber and have much more fun with them now. For the most part I use the 20 grain Vmax bullet with a slightly reduced charge of Varget. Mostly on ground squirrels but on prairie dogs as well with one memorable kill at an even 400 yards. Anyway, if you use a bit of common sense (hard for me at times) and dont load that little round to the max you can get good brass and barrel life. It is no harder to clean than my .20 or .224 bores are, and yes, I certainly enjoy watching the hits in my scope. I guess one thing that I like about it is that even after 40 years, it is still a pretty unique round. Often at the shooting range people ask about it and are shocked when I tell them that it as been around as a factory load since 1971.

Once springtime gets here (hurry up, will you?) I plan on being out in the pastures near where I live making things miserable for several hundred of our local ground squirrels. Neither my .17 Remmy nor I ever get tired of doing that!
 
It's no secret around here that I'm one of the biggest 17cal fans wasting oxygen.
I shoot this (probably to often posted
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And this slicked up 700 wearing a Holland stock and heavy P-N barrel for gophers.
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First thing I'll say is that if ya don't reload,,, stick with the .204 or .224 calibers.
Other than that, the pros are light recoil, and great terminal performance on predators out to 300 with the right bullet. (I use 25gr Nagels, but all of the Berger, Hornady, or Gold HP's do a good job.) V-Max,,,,, Not so much.
Cons = Only one manufacturer of brass (unless you want to make your own), and it's expensive. Wind can also be a problem at distance, but for most "Calling" situations, it's not an issue. You'll also find that you may need quite a few 17cal specific reloading and cleaning gadgets, but we all love gadgets don't we?

Bottom line,,, It's a fun little round that gets the job done in the right hands, but isn't for everyone.
FYI,,, That CZ's an excellent choice. My buddy down in Nevada, kills between 20 and 50 Coyotes a year with one, and Nevada's no stranger to wind.
Hope this helps.
Luck
 
I have had a .17 Rem. since the early 70"s. Mine is a 700 BDL with a 3x9 Nikon on it. I will say it's the best shooting rifle I own and is a blast to shoot and hunt with. Like the others have said, if you don't load stay with something bigger. I shoot 25 gr. Remington HP with IMR 4320.
 
You will have fun with the little 17 Rem.. It is different from other cartridges. Basically zero recoil, very flat shooting, watch impact through the scope, and with proper bullet and shot placement kills like a sledgehammer.

I have made 17 Rem brass from 204 Ruger brass. Not very hard and lots cheaper.

I still have a Sako and a CZ in 17 Rem, and they are accurate.
 
I'm fairly new to the .17rem, but have been playing with one for about 3 years now. By far, my favorite caliber for pred/varmints. It's flat shooting and it has zero recoil which makes it nice for muti shots.

I had this .17rem build.

700
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McM
Talley
Leupold...ect.

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Nice job on the hogs, I have killed a truck load of them with my .17 Rem back when we had them around here. Since the coyotes came to Kentucky there are very few hogs left. Miss hunting them.
 
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I snobbed the .17 Remington, until I unintentionally became the owner of one. Now I have 2 .17 Rem rifles. In my experience they are more difficult to work up a load for and they do seem to foul quicker necessitating frequent cleaning to maintain optimal accuracy. If you enjoy a challenge the pros of the .17 are worth the effort.
 
Originally Posted By: Matt N.I snobbed the .17 Remington, until I unintentionally became the owner of one. Now I have 2 .17 Rem rifles. In my experience they are more difficult to work up a load for and they do seem to foul quicker necessitating frequent cleaning to maintain optimal accuracy. If you enjoy a challenge the pros of the .17 are worth the effort.

Guess I don't have any of those problems you mentioned, Matt N.

I had over 300rds down the pipe before I cleaned mine. Mine isn't picky on any loads and shoot everything very well.
 
Originally Posted By: SuperSeal110Originally Posted By: Matt N.I snobbed the .17 Remington, until I unintentionally became the owner of one. Now I have 2 .17 Rem rifles. In my experience they are more difficult to work up a load for and they do seem to foul quicker necessitating frequent cleaning to maintain optimal accuracy. If you enjoy a challenge the pros of the .17 are worth the effort.

Guess I don't have any of those problems you mentioned, Matt N.

I had over 300rds down the pipe before I cleaned mine. Mine isn't picky on any loads and shoot everything very well.

Same here.
My hand lapped custom barrels clean up easier than the original one on my 700 Classic did, but that's to be expected.
JMO
 
I got a new CZ varmit in .17 rem about a month ago. Its very accurate, but it is a little dirty. I get about 10 shot with mine before velocity and pressure starts to spike and I have to clean it. At first it was very hard to clean,and took 30+ patches but after 100 rounds or so its getting easier. Takes 4-6 patches to clean it now. Ive yet to see any copper fouling even after a 10min soak with Barnes Copper solvent, its always been just carbon. So maybe as it breaks in a little more it will shoot longer. i am shooting a fairly hot load. 27 gr gold & 25gr bergers @ 3930 so that may be part of it.
 
Hey guys, this is my first time participating in the forum. Not much experience in hunting coyotes. Only gotten 3 so far. All I have for rifles are a .270 win and a .17 hmr. Two of the three coyotes were killed via glock 27 .40s&w. The other one was killed with the .270 a week ago. Got lucky on pelt damage last week. Was wondering if a .17 rem would be better than a .223 in the new England woods? Shots under 100 yards, except for a select few cornfields that span 200 on average.
 
Originally Posted By: phutch30I got a new CZ varmit in .17 rem about a month ago. Its very accurate, but it is a little dirty. I get about 10 shot with mine before velocity and pressure starts to spike and I have to clean it. At first it was very hard to clean,and took 30+ patches but after 100 rounds or so its getting easier. Takes 4-6 patches to clean it now. Ive yet to see any copper fouling even after a 10min soak with Barnes Copper solvent, its always been just carbon. So maybe as it breaks in a little more it will shoot longer. i am shooting a fairly hot load. 27 gr gold & 25gr bergers @ 3930 so that may be part of it.


What powder/primer are you using?
Maybe I should knock on wood, but I've never had a fouling problem with any of my 17's.
 
Like some others on here I've had a 17 Rem. the first year they came out and have had at least one or at times several since then.
Hard to believe I'm down to one right now
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but its a good one. A true light weight Predator rifle built on a rebarreled Kimber Montana. 6lbs. 4oz. as it sits in the picture, 22" barrel and all.
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And notice how mine is much prettier than RePete's.
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Two years ago I managed to get a CZ in .17 Remington. I'm glad I did. It's a great little rifle, very accurate and a pleasure to shoot. I have dropped 5 coyotes and a few fox with it so far.

My rifle likes the Hornady 25 gr. HPs and IMR4320, for an average velocity of 3921 fps.

Pros: Accurate, pleasure to shoot, and so far the rifle and load combination has dropped coyotes and fox on the spot as if they were pole axed, and with no exits to the coyotes.

Cons are that fox exits are a mixed bag of OK and not so good. Finding .17 Rem brass is not so easy, and items such as cleaning rods and funnels are necessary.

The pros outweigh the cons in my opinion.











 
k22. I have a Kimber Montana that Kevin Weaver is switching to a 17 Rem for me. They are a awesome gun. Great walking varminter.
 
Originally Posted By: drumiek22. I have a Kimber Montana that Kevin Weaver is switching to a 17 Rem for me. They are a awesome gun. Great walking varminter.


You will love that setup. What barrel are you using and are you staying with the Kimber contour?
 
I like my 17 Rem AR-15 for harvesting fur. Very little damage. Shot placement is crucial, you can't get sloppy. But we have put down foxes, bobcats and coyotes with it. Good cartridge.
 
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