ExpertMarksman
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Az Congresswoman Shot This A.M.
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I caught Sarah Palin's statement on the tragedy & fallout. Sounds very good and comes from the heart.
However, the media is all over her for..get this.."injecting herself into the tragedy" or nitpicking her use of some wording and calling her "ignorant". Sheez the libs are foaming at the mouth at this one. The only victom they like is one who does not respond- that is their idea of free speech. We (liberals) get to blanket you with accusations of complicity in a lunatics actions and you can't respond.
I looked at POLITICO and other Democrat sites and categorically all the comments from elites disgust me; its like they never heard the nonsense spouted by Krugman, the Sheriff, MSNBC, et al.
Reminds me of a nasty ploy one plays on someone. Ignore facts and nudge them on to responding to questions/charges/statements and when they do respond; pick it apart/question why they are responding/call them ignorant- anything but acknowledge the facts that illicited their response.
Did anyone see Bill Maher on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno?. not a fan of Mr maher. go to the website and check out his comments. The man really does not understand the Constitution & free speech allows him to say what he says.
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However, the media is all over her for..get this.."injecting herself into the tragedy" or nitpicking her use of some wording and calling her "ignorant". Sheez the libs are foaming at the mouth at this one. The only victom they like is one who does not respond- that is their idea of free speech. We (liberals) get to blanket you with accusations of complicity in a lunatics actions and you can't respond.
I looked at POLITICO and other Democrat sites and categorically all the comments from elites disgust me; its like they never heard the nonsense spouted by Krugman, the Sheriff, MSNBC, et al.
Reminds me of a nasty ploy one plays on someone. Ignore facts and nudge them on to responding to questions/charges/statements and when they do respond; pick it apart/question why they are responding/call them ignorant- anything but acknowledge the facts that illicited their response.
Did anyone see Bill Maher on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno?. not a fan of Mr maher. go to the website and check out his comments. The man really does not understand the Constitution & free speech allows him to say what he says.
T2G
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Rim_Runner
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Quote:that he was very liberal three years ago, when she knew him well, and played in a band with him.
You give a lot of credence to the opinion of someone you most likely wouldn’t consider creditable about anything else. So this was her opinion of him three years ago. Right about the time he suffered severe alcohol poisoning. The one consistent thing said about him is how much he changed afterwards. As I said before the definition that fits this guy isn’t right or left. He’s insane.
You give a lot of credence to the opinion of someone you most likely wouldn’t consider creditable about anything else. So this was her opinion of him three years ago. Right about the time he suffered severe alcohol poisoning. The one consistent thing said about him is how much he changed afterwards. As I said before the definition that fits this guy isn’t right or left. He’s insane.
jumprightinit
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Originally Posted By: Rim_RunnerQuote:that he was very liberal three years ago, when she knew him well, and played in a band with him.
You give a lot of credence to the opinion of someone you most likely wouldn’t consider creditable about anything else. So this was her opinion of him three years ago. Right about the time he suffered severe alcohol poisoning. The one consistent thing said about him is how much he changed afterwards. As I said before the definition that fits this guy isn’t right or left. He’s insane.
Where is your credible evidense that the guy isn't liberal and is insane.
You give a lot of credence to the opinion of someone you most likely wouldn’t consider creditable about anything else. So this was her opinion of him three years ago. Right about the time he suffered severe alcohol poisoning. The one consistent thing said about him is how much he changed afterwards. As I said before the definition that fits this guy isn’t right or left. He’s insane.
Where is your credible evidense that the guy isn't liberal and is insane.
jumprightinit
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Originally Posted By: Tommy2GunJump, dude the guy is crackers and his elevator is clearly not reaching all floors. I know some liberals might show similar signs of such an illness but, this guy is there-certifiable-ready for the meds & rubber room. No need to label him.
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I don't doubt that at all T2G, it's just that RR wants credible evidense of everything so I thought he may give us some .
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I don't doubt that at all T2G, it's just that RR wants credible evidense of everything so I thought he may give us some .
I can label him:
He's nuttier than squirrel chit.
He's nuttier than squirrel chit.
Stu,
label as in Dem/Rep or Con/Lib; I know ya know what I intended.
Your right the guys sippy cup has a few holes in it and he's batchit crazy.
RR can call for evidence till the cows come home..till then all we have is a historical rememberence from a HS somehing or other.
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label as in Dem/Rep or Con/Lib; I know ya know what I intended.
Your right the guys sippy cup has a few holes in it and he's batchit crazy.
RR can call for evidence till the cows come home..till then all we have is a historical rememberence from a HS somehing or other.
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Workman
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Are we pointing out the fact that the shooter is insane and completely out of touch with reality as evidence that he is liberal or are we ready to give up the blame game and just say that he's crazier than a sh!t house rat?
The fact that this tragedy has turned into a political fiasco, especially blaming the tea parties and Sarah Palin is beyond ridiculous.
The fact that this tragedy has turned into a political fiasco, especially blaming the tea parties and Sarah Palin is beyond ridiculous.
jumprightinit
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Originally Posted By: WorkmanAre we pointing out the fact that the shooter is insane and completely out of touch with reality as evidence that he is liberal or are we ready to give up the blame game and just say that he's crazier than a sh!t house rat?
The fact that this tragedy has turned into a political fiasco, especially blaming the tea parties and Sarah Palin is beyond ridiculous.
That's for sure.
The fact that this tragedy has turned into a political fiasco, especially blaming the tea parties and Sarah Palin is beyond ridiculous.
That's for sure.
larr
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NM Leon
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Quote:Where did you get the information that the shooter was a liberal lefty?
From every friend who commented at all on his political persuasion.
Quote:You give a lot of credence to the opinion of someone you most likely wouldn’t consider creditable about anything else. So this was her opinion of him three years ago. Right about the time he suffered severe alcohol poisoning. The one consistent thing said about him is how much he changed afterwards.
Someone I would not normally find credible becomes more-so when they are giving evidence contrary to their own self interest. While I would normally discount just about anything "an enviro wacko, bunny hugging, Bush and Rush hating liberal" has to say, one exception would be when she identifies a wacko monster who she was personally acquainted with as a fellow traveller.
The reason "statements against self interest" are given more weight in court is because they can usually be better relied on to be truth.
Quote:As I said before the definition that fits this guy isn’t right or left. He’s insane.
I absolutely agree. Too bad Sheriff Dumplick, Paul Krugman, etc didn't get the memo.
The debate over his political leanings started with your side trying to label him as a right wing radical, and their immoral and disgusting attempt to blame Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc for the murders.
The evidence so far shows instead that to the extent he was political at all, he leaned left.
From every friend who commented at all on his political persuasion.
Quote:You give a lot of credence to the opinion of someone you most likely wouldn’t consider creditable about anything else. So this was her opinion of him three years ago. Right about the time he suffered severe alcohol poisoning. The one consistent thing said about him is how much he changed afterwards.
Someone I would not normally find credible becomes more-so when they are giving evidence contrary to their own self interest. While I would normally discount just about anything "an enviro wacko, bunny hugging, Bush and Rush hating liberal" has to say, one exception would be when she identifies a wacko monster who she was personally acquainted with as a fellow traveller.
The reason "statements against self interest" are given more weight in court is because they can usually be better relied on to be truth.
Quote:As I said before the definition that fits this guy isn’t right or left. He’s insane.
I absolutely agree. Too bad Sheriff Dumplick, Paul Krugman, etc didn't get the memo.
The debate over his political leanings started with your side trying to label him as a right wing radical, and their immoral and disgusting attempt to blame Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc for the murders.
The evidence so far shows instead that to the extent he was political at all, he leaned left.
Rim_Runner
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Quote:The debate over his political leanings started with your side trying to label him as a right wing radical
What’s this my side BS? You see anywhere I labeled him a right wing radical.
What’s this my side BS? You see anywhere I labeled him a right wing radical.
NM Leon
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Quote:The debate over his political leanings started with your side trying to label him as a right wing radical
Quote:What’s this my side BS? You see anywhere I labeled him a right wing radical.
Nope, but I've seen for years which side of the political spectrum you identify with from your comments back here. People from the same SIDE of the political spectrum as the one you support would in the vernacular be referred to as collectively being "YOUR SIDE".
Those people from YOUR SIDE (in common parlance), Sheriff Dumbhick, Paul Krugman, Chris Matthews, Eric Lipton, Charlie Savage, Scott Shane, etc, etc, DID scurrilously and obscenely label him a right wing radical, some even before all of the victims bodies had been moved from the scene, thereby kicking off the debate.
That would be the debate you chose to join in your own small way by attempting to discredit any evidence that might have shown that those statements from YOUR SIDE claiming he was a right wing radical were in fact not only wrong, but to the extent Loughner was political at all were exactly opposite of the truth.
Quote:What’s this my side BS? You see anywhere I labeled him a right wing radical.
Nope, but I've seen for years which side of the political spectrum you identify with from your comments back here. People from the same SIDE of the political spectrum as the one you support would in the vernacular be referred to as collectively being "YOUR SIDE".
Those people from YOUR SIDE (in common parlance), Sheriff Dumbhick, Paul Krugman, Chris Matthews, Eric Lipton, Charlie Savage, Scott Shane, etc, etc, DID scurrilously and obscenely label him a right wing radical, some even before all of the victims bodies had been moved from the scene, thereby kicking off the debate.
That would be the debate you chose to join in your own small way by attempting to discredit any evidence that might have shown that those statements from YOUR SIDE claiming he was a right wing radical were in fact not only wrong, but to the extent Loughner was political at all were exactly opposite of the truth.
Rim_Runner
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Originally Posted By: nmleonQuote:The debate over his political leanings started with your side trying to label him as a right wing radical
Quote:What’s this my side BS? You see anywhere I labeled him a right wing radical.
Nope, but I've seen for years which side of the political spectrum you identify with from your comments back here. People from the same SIDE of the political spectrum as the one you support would in the vernacular be referred to as collectively being "YOUR SIDE".
Those people from YOUR SIDE (in common parlance), Sheriff Dumbhick, Paul Krugman, Chris Matthews, Eric Lipton, Charlie Savage, Scott Shane, etc, etc, DID scurrilously and obscenely label him a right wing radical, some even before all of the victims bodies had been moved from the scene, thereby kicking off the debate.
That would be the debate you chose to join in your own small way by attempting to discredit any evidence that might have shown that those statements from YOUR SIDE claiming he was a right wing radical were in fact not only wrong, but to the extent Loughner was political at all were exactly opposite of the truth.
That’s an interesting style of debate there. You attribute views to me because you want to lump me in with a group of people you disagree with. You seem to be falling into some kind of binary thinking that magically allows you to completely analyze someone’s political views when that person has only expressed himself on a few issues. That’s very similar to what the left did when this tragedy happened.
Quote:What’s this my side BS? You see anywhere I labeled him a right wing radical.
Nope, but I've seen for years which side of the political spectrum you identify with from your comments back here. People from the same SIDE of the political spectrum as the one you support would in the vernacular be referred to as collectively being "YOUR SIDE".
Those people from YOUR SIDE (in common parlance), Sheriff Dumbhick, Paul Krugman, Chris Matthews, Eric Lipton, Charlie Savage, Scott Shane, etc, etc, DID scurrilously and obscenely label him a right wing radical, some even before all of the victims bodies had been moved from the scene, thereby kicking off the debate.
That would be the debate you chose to join in your own small way by attempting to discredit any evidence that might have shown that those statements from YOUR SIDE claiming he was a right wing radical were in fact not only wrong, but to the extent Loughner was political at all were exactly opposite of the truth.
That’s an interesting style of debate there. You attribute views to me because you want to lump me in with a group of people you disagree with. You seem to be falling into some kind of binary thinking that magically allows you to completely analyze someone’s political views when that person has only expressed himself on a few issues. That’s very similar to what the left did when this tragedy happened.
redeyeddawg
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That's very similar to what you have been doing Rimmy. You want to imply that some of us believe the Kos poster was the same person as the shooter with no evidence to back it up. You also have a LONG history of taking the left side of most any political issue, so why would this be any different? Like Ann Coulter says, if you want to know what the left is up to you only have to know what they are currently accusing you of.
Rim_Runner
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Quote:You want to imply that some of us believe the Kos poster was the same person as the shooter with no evidence to back it up. I asked a direct question to avoid speculation on that point.
Quote:You also have a LONG history of taking the left side of most any political issue, I also have a long history of agreeing with the right. For example 2nd amendment issues, Immigration issues, and capital punishment.
Quote:You also have a LONG history of taking the left side of most any political issue, I also have a long history of agreeing with the right. For example 2nd amendment issues, Immigration issues, and capital punishment.
redeyeddawg
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Strange it was you that asked the question, repeatedly I might add. It seems everyone else already knew the answer, so apparently they weren't about to "speculate". Glad you could find three issues where you come down on the right side. Now, about those other hundred...