Barrel damage from rapid firing 30 rd clip?

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buckskull

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So now I have an Coyote Carbine and a few 30 rd mags. Would love to rapid fire all 30 and see how good I can group at 100 yrds. Just can't bring myself to do it, Have had bolts all my life and would never dream of more than 3-5 rounds before letting barrel cool. Can you cause damage overheating the barrel?
I know the coyote is not chrome lined, does it matter?
Sorry if these are stupid questions but I am a newbie to the AR platform.
 
I don't have a Ar but looking into them pretty hard. I wondered the same thing. Not way i would ever heat up my barrels on my bolts. Not doubting your word but what makes these barrels different. Just trying to learn
 
I shoot 100 rds as fast as I can cycle the bolt, load the next mag and get on target...with my bolt guns. running a 30 rounder to the bottom real fast is not only a must...it's your american right. 30 is ok, 3000 might be pushing it. Have fun.
 
You need to look up accurateshooter.com
Then look at barrel deprecition and the true cost of shooting.
This will help you figure out how many shots your gun is good for over its lifetime. Without loosing its accuracy.
So don't just let her rip.
Perhaps you need an old barrel to blast away with for fun.

Let us know what you think????
We need to talk more about this on the forum.
 
They are made for our fine sevice men and women...to shoot the crap outa commies and terrorists.

They are by design made to be rode hard and hung up wet.


Let em riiiiip!!!!!



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I've taken an old beat up Army issue Colt, ripped 200 rounds through it on burst continuously, let it cool, then shot perfect groups and scored 40/40 on the Army marksmanship test.

Let her rip, I think you'll be fine.
 
Originally Posted By: tactical assaultWith a semi auto AR, you can't pull the trigger fast enough to get it hot enough to cause heat damage. Shoot away!!!!!!!

Now I wouldn't say that, but a couple 30's isn't gonna hurt it.

Here try this:
 
Originally Posted By: tactical assaultWith a semi auto AR, you can't pull the trigger fast enough to get it hot enough to cause heat damage. Shoot away!!!!!!!

Ah....that ain't true. You can shoot fast enough to blow a gas tube easily. I have gotten a barrel hot enough to glow. So you can do it, especially with the Beta's and the new 60 round mags. Heck anyone with training can do a mag change in 1 sec +/-.

If your gun is a true accuracy gun, then DO NOT use it as a bullet hose. A couple of shot strings is perfectly fine. But if you are getting it hot enough to brand cattle you are going to hurt the barrel.
 
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When in the military, we would occasionally get the command to expend all ammo at the range. We would run through 30 round mags full auto as quickly as we could dump empties and slam in another. Barrels would actually glow red, but there would still be rifling in them when we'd clean them. We would then qualify with the same weapon at the next range session. I don't know how these rifles would work as varmint shooters though.
 
I shot more full auto threw my suppressed rig than semi. Not had any accuracy issues. If you run 500 rounds through it as fast as you can, i'll go with " not good for a barrel", but a half dozen mags is not going to hurt anything.
 
Originally Posted By: Hail CaesarOriginally Posted By: tactical assaultWith a semi auto AR, you can't pull the trigger fast enough to get it hot enough to cause heat damage. Shoot away!!!!!!!

Ah....that ain't true. You can shoot fast enough to blow a gas tube easily. I have gotten a barrel hot enough to glow. So you can do it, especially with the Beta's and the new 60 round mags. Heck anyone with training can do a mag change in 1 sec +/-.

If your gun is a true accuracy gun, then DO NOT use it as a bullet hose. A couple of shot strings is perfectly fine. But if you are getting it hot enough to brand cattle you are going to hurt the barrel.

Don't get me wrong, run your accurancy gun as a bullet hose is not good practice by any means, but if you run a beta 100 round burst, clean your gun, and drop it on a bench it will shoot the same.
 
I'm no expert , but I'm guessing a crome lined barrel will take more abuse than a non lined one.

The miltary grade weapons are crome lined are they not ?

 
Originally Posted By: Tim NeitzkeI'm no expert , but I'm guessing a crome lined barrel will take more abuse than a non lined one.

The miltary grade weapons are crome lined are they not ?



For the most part. My m16 is, the rest. Of mine are not.
 
Kind of depends on your definition of accuracy. If accurate means being able to hit a 12" gong with most of your shots at 100 yards, I'd not worry too much about it. If you are gunning for 3/4" groups or smaller I'd hold off.
I once got into a real good prairie dog town with a heavy barreled factory .223 bolt gun as my main rifle. Never got it hot enough I couldn't pick it up by the barrel bare handed, but when I got home and cleaned, it wasn't as accurate as before. Checked the throat and it had moved out nearly .100. Could no longer reach the lands with 50 gr. bullets. It went from being a super accurate barrel to around 3/4" even with heavier bullets the would reach the lands.
If your not chrome lined I'd hold off, but then I'm pretty cautious with my rifles.
 
I don't think that occasionally ripping through a couple of high cap magazines will have a negative effect..

One difference between the standard commercial ARs and the ones designed for the full auto service is that the military grades are usually chrome lined...they are not quite as accurate, but more durable to allow sustained fire in full auto mode..

I have a civilian (DPMS) stainless bull barrel that has reportedly been cryo'd and I've shot it in quite a few action and three gun competitions over the last ten years...Some stages in those type matches require firing 40-60 rounds as fast as you can acquire your target...So far, my barrel is showing no signs of deterioration or loss of accuracy..

My .204 AR gets somewhat of a similar treatment when we go on a Prairie Dog shoot, but it does get a chance to cool off a little between magazines....
 
Originally Posted By: ole_270Kind of depends on your definition of accuracy. If accurate means being able to hit a 12" gong with most of your shots at 100 yards, I'd not worry too much about it. If you are gunning for 3/4" groups or smaller I'd hold off.
I once got into a real good prairie dog town with a heavy barreled factory .223 bolt gun as my main rifle. Never got it hot enough I couldn't pick it up by the barrel bare handed, but when I got home and cleaned, it wasn't as accurate as before. Checked the throat and it had moved out nearly .100. Could no longer reach the lands with 50 gr. bullets. It went from being a super accurate barrel to around 3/4" even with heavier bullets the would reach the lands.
If your not chrome lined I'd hold off, but then I'm pretty cautious with my rifles.

This is probably a agree to disagree topic. No I don't think in moderation it will effect your barrel. Would I run my RRA A4 barrel on my m16....[beeep] no. Just my two cents
 


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