barrel harmonics

calling4life

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When considering the rem sps tactical, the flexible stock was pointed out as a worry point because it would touch the barrel, which can affect accuracy.

So, I was wondering how far this goes.

Will a ghille drape over the gun/barrel effect the accuracy???

The gun I bought has a stainless fluted barrel, I've been looking into buying a ghille suit and it comes with a gun cover/drape. Is it going to have any effect on the gun???

In the operation predator vid you see them use the HS shooting sticks that have a rubber tube that goes over the barrel, now depending upon how you lean on these, that tube would put pressure on the barrel, is this going to affect it???

Would having the gun dipped in camo have an affect????

I like the ghille idea, help break up the outline, but I'm looking at different options and this whole idea of something touching the barrel being taboo has me worried.

Any help is appreciated, probably a pretty easy answer for most, but I wanted to be sure after previous conversations on things like this. Better safe then sorry.
 
Whatever you do, practice with the gear you are going to hunt with. You will possibly have to trim your wrap for visibility, but it should not affect accuracy. A tight wrap of tape actually putting pressure on a barrel and stock may be another matter.
 
If you only wrap the barrel, the effect on harmonics will be minimal, if any... If you are wrapping the barrel to the stock, the there may be a more pronounced effect...especially if the barrel is free floated..

I have applied the adhesive cammo tape to a stainless steel barrel, but not the stock and saw no effect in PoI at 100 yards...

If you really want to cammo the rifle, stop by a NAPA auto parts store and pick up a rattle can of "self etching primer" and shoot the stainless parts.. It's an OD color and will really deaden the appearance..

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I am sure it does affect it, but since it isn't a bench rest gun, it probably is almost irrelevent.

Even if it changed a 1/2 MOA gun to a 2 MOA gun, you would still get halfway decent groups out to 250 yards.

I wouldn't worry about it myself - but as has been said before - shoot it and then you will have a good baseline.
 
Originally Posted By: johralI am sure it does affect it, but since it isn't a bench rest gun, it probably is almost irrelevent.

Even if it changed a 1/2 MOA gun to a 2 MOA gun, you would still get halfway decent groups out to 250 yards.

I wouldn't worry about it myself - but as has been said before - shoot it and then you will have a good baseline.

Why in the world would anyone want a 1/2 moa to turn into a 2 moa rifle ! That's just silly. A 2 moa rifle will NOT have halfway decent groups ,they will be half azzed groups.
 
I rapped my stock and skinny barrel together. Really put a damper on accuracy. Was kind of like laying the rifle on a rest out at the end of the stock, instead of under the action.
 
Originally Posted By: Tim NeitzkeOriginally Posted By: johralI am sure it does affect it, but since it isn't a bench rest gun, it probably is almost irrelevent.

Even if it changed a 1/2 MOA gun to a 2 MOA gun, you would still get halfway decent groups out to 250 yards.

I wouldn't worry about it myself - but as has been said before - shoot it and then you will have a good baseline.

Why in the world would anyone want a 1/2 moa to turn into a 2 moa rifle ! That's just silly. A 2 moa rifle will NOT have halfway decent groups ,they will be half azzed groups.

I said "Even if" - it was hypothetical - please read what was written.

At 250 yards you would have a 5" group - plenty good for hitting a coyote.
 
Barrel lenght and diameter, rigidness of stock, free floated or not, how tight the stock and barrel are wrapped together could all play a part in changing the way a rifle would shoot.

From personal experiance I would advise not to wrap barrel and stock together.

But if you do, be sure and recheck where rifle hits after wrapping.

A ghille just drapped over it won't affect it. Tape on barrel only won't affect it.
 
I do wrap the barrel to the stock and it still has no effect. Maybe cause it's an Encore and the barrel/stock is attached so it's kinda one piece, maybe thats the difference.

t/c223encore.
 
Originally Posted By: t/c223encoreI do wrap the barrel to the stock and it still has no effect. Maybe cause it's an Encore and the barrel/stock is attached so it's kinda one piece, maybe thats the difference.

t/c223encore.

I would think in the case of your Encore that is exactly why it does not make a difference.
 
Originally Posted By: yotehunter57 2 MOA is a pattern, not a group.

Shayne

I love how so many folks on here think that if your gun don't shoot 1/4" groups its trash and couldn't ever be useful.

Calling4life: Unless you really strap down the barrel you won't effect it to any amount to severely change your groups.
 
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Originally Posted By: Jeepdude1987Originally Posted By: yotehunter57 2 MOA is a pattern, not a group.

Shayne

I love how so many folks on here think that if your gun don't shoot 1/4" groups its trash and couldn't ever be useful.

Exactly! How many deer do you think the open sighted 2+ MOA 30-30 winchester has taken? Probably an astonishing number of coyotes have been taken with similar rifles.
 
Yep, that and a .22lr will only wound a coyote! I mean that is ridiculous. No its not the ideal round, but I think some year I'll only use a .22lr for coyote hunting and post up all the kills I get.
 
Why don't you start using that 22lr this year? Be sure and post about the ones that run off and you don't find too. Yeah, you should use a 22lr this year.

Up to this point I'm curious as to how much actual experiance you have shooting coyotes with a .22lr?

While you're at it, go ahead and wrap your barrel good and tight to your stock and go fire a few shots at a target. You might just find something else to call ridiculous.
 
LOL !
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This is geting better all the time. Went from wrapping a rifle to a iron sighted 30-30 !
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BTW...

My guns are not 1/4" shooters and their not 2 moa,they are in between or better.
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A 5" group at 250 yards will NEVER be good enough for a yote rifle ,not for me anyway.
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Back to the beginning ...

Just a drape over the barrel ....No
A tightly wrapped to the stock freefloated barrel will affect POI.

Camo dipped ...No
Any pressure applied to a stock/barrel will change POI somewhat.
Even a bipod will affect POI on a non-rigid stock
 
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