Bow Hunter killed my friend's bird dog this morning

I hate to get into this, because it seems to take away from the actual loss, but since it's been brought up...

In Tennessee, there is a State mandated upper limit on the value of a pet. In other words, your pet CAN'T be worth more that $1000. No matter what happens, your max lawsuit is going to be $1000. Can you sue to recover medical bills? Absolutely. But you can't seek compensation for mental or emotional anguish. It is deemed a misdemeanor here, and that's about the best you can do with it. It isn't right, in my opinion, but that's just the way it is. Check your local/State laws before you go anywhere with this. Securing the services of an attorney to do the research would be the first step. He/she can find out if there is indeed a case, and whether it would be beneficial to file suit.
 
What in the Hell was this guy thinking?? If the dog was hot on the heel's of a deer then maybe but just to shoot cause he THOUGHT it was a stray! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Im with the few guys who posted; I would probably be locked up right now for unautherized dental work. Im sorry about the loss, as I would be shaken to the core. Just hope you have a good idea who it was and were you can ring his neck later. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

I know here in NY hed be looking through vertical bars and making a call to his lawyer. This guy should never be allowed the privelage of hunting ever again on top of loosing his weapons.

Dave
 
You and your friends have more restaint than I would have had. You probably did the right thing by leaving before tempers flared up to bad.
 
Un-freakin-believable. I hope that situation never happens with me around. That is just about the dumbest human on earth. Why would anyone shoot a hunting dog on public land? Obviously the guy was a hack, cause he gut shot the poor dog. Like the others said, I would have stuck his bow up his a$$ then smashed it against a tree. It made my stomach upset just reading this. I am truely sorry for all the victims involved.
 
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he made a couple of calls before telling us it is strictly a civil matter.



Strictly a civil matter my butt! That's just a way for them to not do their job. In other words he's saying it's not against the law to go around shooting dogs? Ask him where he lives and tell him you're going to his house to shoot his dog since it's just a "civil" matter.
 
An Akron man kills his fathers barking dog. Charged with animal cruelty, he’s being held at the Summit County Jail.

A 3-year-old treeing Walker hound was killed near Gainsville, while coon hunting. Michael Mustachio, who couldn’t stand the baying, was charged with felony aggravated cruelty to animals.

An Albuquerque man shot his neighbors barking dog. Police are holding the man on a list of charges, including animal abuse.

A Gallup man shot to death his own 2 dogs because they wouldn’t stop barking. He was arrested on animal cruelty charges.

A Denver man is accused of killing his own dog. He was arrested on felony animal abuse charges.

I don’t think yours is strictly a civil case. Conviction on animal abuse charges would certainly help win a civil suit, though.
 
Man I am sorry to hear about this. I just joined this forum after reading about this on a bowhunting forum. I am an avid bowhunter and predator hunter and this gives hunters of all kinds a black eye. Once again, sorry to read about the loss of your friends pet.
Don
 
I've been biting my tounge but I gotta ask.

Did he have an orange vest on the dog?

Most of the bird hunters I know consider it a must, particularly when hunting public land.

Some areas have a serious problem with feral dogs and cats. If there isn't a visable collar you're taking a chance that one of the locals could dealing with a problem and your dog could be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Put an orange vest on the dog and it is obvious that it has an owner.
 
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I've been biting my tounge but I gotta ask.

Did he have an orange vest on the dog?

Most of the bird hunters I know consider it a must, particularly when hunting public land.

Some areas have a serious problem with feral dogs and cats. If there isn't a visable collar you're taking a chance that one of the locals could dealing with a problem and your dog could be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Put an orange vest on the dog and it is obvious that it has an owner.



Bull [beeep]! Folks don't need an orange collar to tell them they don't need to shoot a dog.

A little story:

I used to raise dogs. Mostly labs but some chessies. My dogs had a great reputation and I sold a few hundred of them for $400 bucks a pop. That made each of my bitches worth a ton of money. Easily $20,000.00 each.

I moved into a new place and about three months into it 3 of my dogs escaped the kennel and ran across the frozen lake to a neighbors place. He called me that evening [beeep] off like I can't believe.

It seems that the dogs were running on the lake (public water) and he didn't want them there. He took out his .22lr and shot at them twice. He was amazed that they turned and came toward him. (Duh. They are hunting dogs that think a gunshot means something to fetch!) Anyway, he didn't have the heart to shoot them then but called me to chew some butt.

I informed him that we were here to stay and that my dogs were each worth a minimum of $20,000.00 and that if he shot one or if one turned up missing, I'd blame him and come after him first with a criminal case and then with a civil case for AT LEAST $20,000.

He and I got along great after that and he never shot at another of my dogs.

I don't feel the need to put orange vests on my dogs in order for them not to be shot.
 
No orange vest for us or for the dog.

We were doing a couple of early morning sets to try to get a coyote or two before calling in some crows. For both of those situations orange is a big No-No because it is my understanding that the animals see in color.
Somebody else correct me if I am wrong in that respect.

The dog was wearing a real wide collar with the dog tag tinkling to indicate her location.

The legal issues are not my focus. If Dan wants to take that path I will definitely testify and give moral support. It will not bring back his companion or ease the suffering for him and his wife.

For truth I am still in shock over the whole incident.

Thanks for the support and kind words.
 
I just remembered a case in Missouri of some fruit shooting a couple of beagles that were running a rabbit across his land from a public hunting area. The landowner shot and killed them. The dog owner had him arrested, he was brought to trial and convicted. He was fined and placed on probation. Then the dog owner sued him in civil court and won a judgement against him. IIRC, those two beagles ended up costing that guy somewhere around $12,000 EACH. I'm thinking your Game Warden just didn't want to get involved in what may end up being a hassle for the investigating officer. Of course, that's what he gets paid for... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif I'd have a report made with the Sheriff's Office and contact the County Prosecutor.
 
I know I'm a new guy here, but I'm a dog guy first and foremost. I am truly sorry for you friends loss. This really gets to me, so I'll leave it at that, before I say something I'll regret. I only hope your friend doesn't let this a$$ h*** get away with this. He definitely has options in this matter.


"I'd have a report made with the Sheriff's Office and contact the County Prosecutor." I agree 100%!!!

Again sorry!
 
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In Tennessee, there is a State mandated upper limit on the value of a pet. In other words, your pet CAN'T be worth more that $1000. No matter what happens, your max lawsuit is going to be $1000.



Ahhh... the wonderful state of TN! Hidalgo is right, but the ever wonderful court system has something to say. It WAS a hunting dog... it WAS hunting. The bowhunter shot and killed a hunting dog WHILE it was hunting. The killing of the guy's dog disrupted his hunt. THAT is more than just a slap on the wrist... it is "unlawfully disrupting a legal hunt" That can be looked into. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif Then you can sue him for "loss of entertainment and recreation"... I seen where a guy sued his neighbors and their kids for that one. He complained that they made to much noise and drove around on four wheelers all day, making his hunting miserable. He won... a lot. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

It's nice having lawyers around you from time to time. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Guys, I think he's saying that even as much as $20K would not bring that beloved dog back...

I'm sad for yours and your friend's loss. Rough day indeed.

I'm also rather mystified why someone would do this to a Brittany Spaniel within 150 feet of the owner (who must be presumed to have been armed, himself). Only explanation I can come up with at a distance is that the individual who arrowed the dog needs to be evaluated for serious mental health issues--which, upon confirmation would hopefully result in the removal of all weaponry (incl sharp objects) from their ownership/possession, for an indeterminate period of time.

LionHo
 
Sorry for the loss, i must say ya'll are better men than i am , cause GOD does forgive , I DON'T !!! I hope everything works out , if not sent them boys down here to old NC , i'll be glad to show them some country justice.
 
Wow, that is unbelievable. Really upsets me to hear stuff like that. I don't think I could have just packed up and got out of there. I think the bow in the postierior would have been appropriate for the situation.
 
I'm sorry for your friends loss but if it would have been my dog assault would have been the lesser of the charges against me.
 
So sorry for your friends loss.Financial remuneration would not be my recourse, his address and mr baseball bat would be, and he wouldnt be drawing a bow with broken hands again.
A guy once threatened my longdog with a shotgun, going so far as to point it at her, i told him, if he shot, he would be reloading it through his nostrils, i would shove it so far up his butt, he didnt shoot.Shooting a dog, thats not worrying livestock is a cowardly act, i hope that guy gets some real bad luck in 2007.
 
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