Brightest Light

coyotekillerNE

coyotekillerNE

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Can someone tell me what is THE brightest red led flashlight right now. I keep reading about Sniper Hog, Wicked, etc. Who is boss right now when it comes to reaching out there and illuminating.
I have a plethora of red led lights, but nothing that can really - really throw.
Thanks
 
CoyotekillerNE,

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Sniper hog 66LR and the Wicked W402zf are the two farthest throwers on the market with the Wicked slightly edging out the Sniper on paper(both pretty much the same in the field). Iding bodies of critters is truely possible at about 300 yards with both of these lights using quality glass. Both are also sold by fulltime companies with written warranties and come with everything needed to run them in economical packages. There may be some ¨Custom built¨ lights out there brighter(on paper), but no one has been able to personally show me a better thrower for brightness at distance than these two I mentioned. I urge people to look into a companies return program, warranty and total customer service policies before making a purchase.

If you have any questions please feel free to contact me.
 
Jeremiah has some great light options and you will not be disappointed with his service however, I beleive your question was which is the brightest light on the market? In my opinion it is the Carnivore Magnum 2. I assume you meant with a red LED also.
 
Originally Posted By: Uncle JohnGo to candlepowerforums, those guys are crazy about lights.
I've read there quite a bit. I am by no means a light newb. I typically use my olight crimson to scan. Also have several ultrafire Chinese red leds.
It's been two years since I picked up lights and I just want to get caught up.
 
Originally Posted By: BoondockOutdoorsCoyotekillerNE,

There may be some ¨Custom built¨ lights out there brighter(on paper), but no one has been able to personally show me a better thrower for brightness at distance than these two I mentioned.


Just cause Boondock hasn't seen them don't mean they don't exist. Lux measurements didn't exist until I posted this thread a few years ago (with help of a few other members) when LEDs were in their infancy and the list is limited. Jeremiah has or had a post on his website at one time that listed lux values of all the lights he sells, not sure if it's still there.

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/for...4179&page=1

The Sniper Hog lights were the brightest or very comparable to the Coyote light at less than half the cost. I don't see the Coyote Light being sold there anymore, not sure what happened but why spend $400 when $200 gets the job done.

Custom light mods are beyond my capabilities but there are guys out there modding these lights. Changing emitters, pills, drivers, and lenses can all increase throw.

 
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As far as distance we have seen fox eyes out past 800 yds and full body identification on fox past 500 yds. As far as why spend twice as much. With us you get fully dimmable, fully focusable, 48 hrs of scanning time at 25% power, American made, no noisy rattles, quick 1/2 inch twist to go from spot to flood (not 2 full rotations of the head). We also do not dim with usage, our distances are the same when you turn the light on until it runs dead. Your distance is greatly reduced once your battery drops past 60% with your average Chinese flashlight.
 
It always makes me chuckle when someone asks how many lumens, lux or candela a particular light has. I understand that these numbers are how some base their decision on the throw of a particular light. But keep in mind there are a lot of factors that need to be taken into consideration. (reflector, lighting conditions, distance measured, etc) Not that these numbers don't have their place but what I think is more important is what the seller is claiming a particular light is capable of. If a seller is claiming he can identify a particular animal at a certain distance during normal conditions, isn't that our goal? Some like to call predators in and shoot within 200 yards and other hunters like to shoot them at 300+ yards. If a seller is giving false claims on a light, they will surely be called out on it and will not be in business very long. For example, every customer can relate and measure how far 200 yards is but not every customer has a lumens, lux, or candela meter to verify ones claims. Just my 2 cents
 
The Wicked 402z and the Dereelight Nightmaster V2 both smoke the coyotelight,in "shootable" light distance. Or maybe I'm crazy...
 
I haven't used seen either of the lights you mentioned Ultramag, so you could be right. I do have the Coyote light and the Sniper Hog 66LR. Some say the SH 66 is equal to the Wicked 402z, but I reckon others may differ.

I keep the Coyote Light on my calling rifle and use the SH 66 for others who may not have a light. Other than that, I use the SH 66 on my bait site rifle. My assessment is the SH 66 is pretty close to the same throw distance as the Coyote Light for slightly less than half the money. However, comparing the Coyote Light when focused as tight as it will go and the SH 66 when focused the same way, the Coyote Light is throwing over an area at least twice as large (and maybe more) with the same amount of intensity.

Given the ability of the Coyote Light to both zoom and have 100% variable intensity, there really isn't a comparison between the two. Also the zoom is much quicker on the Coyote Light and doesn't have a tendency to wobble and sometimes throw the light out of sync with the scope.

I still use an XLR 100 to scan and killed a fair amount of coyotes with the XLR 250. The bottom line is buy what your budget will allow. No light is a substitute for hunting ability and stand set up. Until I can afford NV and FLIR, I just have to make the most of what I have right now.

One final observation, the brightness of the current crop of lights is outstanding, but has a tendency to cause too much light to be on animals at too far a distance. It can easily hang them up and create situations where shots are way too long. Although I have made shots over 300 yds at night, it is not a good thing to attempt in most situations. For me, a 100 yd. night shot is about equivalent to a 200 yd. day shot in difficulty.
 
Originally Posted By: DoubleUpOne final observation, the brightness of the current crop of lights is outstanding, but has a tendency to cause too much light to be on animals at too far a distance. It can easily hang them up and create situations where shots are way too long. Although I have made shots over 300 yds at night, it is not a good thing to attempt in most situations. For me, a 100 yd. night shot is about equivalent to a 200 yd. day shot in difficulty.



I couldn't agree more!
 
Originally Posted By: DoubleUpI haven't used seen either of the lights you mentioned Ultramag, so you could be right. I do have the Coyote light and the Sniper Hog 66LR. Some say the SH 66 is equal to the Wicked 402z, but I reckon others may differ.

I keep the Coyote Light on my calling rifle and use the SH 66 for others who may not have a light. Other than that, I use the SH 66 on my bait site rifle. My assessment is the SH 66 is pretty close to the same throw distance as the Coyote Light for slightly less than half the money. However, comparing the Coyote Light when focused as tight as it will go and the SH 66 when focused the same way, the Coyote Light is throwing over an area at least twice as large (and maybe more) with the same amount of intensity.

Given the ability of the Coyote Light to both zoom and have 100% variable intensity, there really isn't a comparison between the two. Also the zoom is much quicker on the Coyote Light and doesn't have a tendency to wobble and sometimes throw the light out of sync with the scope.

I still use an XLR 100 to scan and killed a fair amount of coyotes with the XLR 250. The bottom line is buy what your budget will allow. No light is a substitute for hunting ability and stand set up. Until I can afford NV and FLIR, I just have to make the most of what I have right now.

One final observation, the brightness of the current crop of lights is outstanding, but has a tendency to cause too much light to be on animals at too far a distance. It can easily hang them up and create situations where shots are way too long. Although I have made shots over 300 yds at night, it is not a good thing to attempt in most situations. For me, a 100 yd. night shot is about equivalent to a 200 yd. day shot in difficulty.

I use a stalktech mount, it locks in position once set up....no wobble.
 
Guy's I simply asked a question to Luke about the Coyote Light. Lux/Candela is the way to measure light. I agree with all your post that there are several other factors when considering a light. I have been around long enough to know that. I also agree that many of the new lights and some of the old lights are more than capable to get the job done.

Lets not forget what the original poster was asking. What is the brightest light on the market. I gave my opinion on what I felt the answer was. I was doing some research on lights and did not see what the candela was for the Coyote Light and simply asked because that is a respectable light in my opinion. The Wicked 402ZF is listed at 50,000 Candela on their site. Thats very good as well. The Carnivore Magnum 2 is listed at 58,400 Candela. The Carnivore was tested exactly as PMACK describes in this post(http://www.predatormastersforums.com/for...4179&page=1) If Candela is not a factor in the measurement of light then why list it? The truth is, it is a factor.

Bright light is not for everyone. It is important to me that the brightness is adjustable as it is in the Carnivore Magnum 2. If you want the brightest, buy this light. If your style or set requires less light then the Carnivore also fits the bill because the intesity is completely adjustable.
 
All predator calls measured the coyoteLight at 39,000 lux about a year and a half ago. We made some changes for this years light and we do not have the current numbers. Our light focused in puts a square down range about four times larger than the competitions square down range, as doubleup has said. Everyone quotes numbers based on a fully charged light. How long are those numbers actually good for? How far are they seeing with 60% less battery? How bright is their light after 60% power loss? Unless you like changing batteries in the middle of a set their lights do not hold a candela to ours.
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CoyoteLight does not dim with usage. /ow easy is their light to hunt with? CoyoteLight takes about 1/2 inch to go from focus to flood, the Chinese lights we have looked at take two full rotations. How important is it to be fully dimmable and not have to worry about presets, button clicks or what light intensity is next? We designed a light that lets you focus on the hunt not worrying about your light.
 
We did measure the coyotelight approx 1 1/2 years ago using a 1 meter distance if I recall. After becoming more knowledgeable in the dynamics of zoom-focus lights and convex lenses and the relationship between the distance from the bezel, distance from the measurement device, and distance in which the light achieves its peak beam intensity. More recent measurements by us place the RED LED CoyoteLight as a 50,000cd class light, just like the W402Z and the 66LR are. Having been pitched virtually every light available from overseas manufacturers on a near daily basis, and having personally evaluated hundreds of dealer sample lights, I'm not aware of any other I would include in the above group.

AP
 
Lookn4fur,

How many batteries does it operate on?
How many LEDs are in it?
Are the LEDs changeable by customer?
what is the warranty?
For that price did it include adjustable scope mounts, batteries, charger, storage case?
 
I for one found all of this very interesting and informative.

I am in a state where Night hunting is just starting to become legal.. I see enough shows with enough products to make me conviced there are a pile of lights and companies that want my money.

The fact that everytime I start looking there are so many different units of measure is frustrating since you can't do the straight comparision..

I as a buyer, I love that it lasts a long time, long = more hunting and less battery change.

Small means also easy to hold and use, transport, and store.

I like the little clip on handle that i have seen on wicked lights.., But when I see someone asking for $200-400 or more for a light, My reaction is that i will just stay home and have a beer, and hunt them in the light.

Again, thank you to all that are making this clearer, and sharing the information.
 
Originally Posted By: Tbone-AZI for one found all of this very interesting and informative.

...The fact that everytime I start looking there are so many different units of measure is frustrating since you can't do the straight comparision..

I as a buyer, I love that it lasts a long time, long = more hunting and less battery change.

Small means also easy to hold and use, transport, and store.

I like the little clip on handle that i have seen on wicked lights.., But when I see someone asking for $200-400 or more for a light, My reaction is that i will just stay home and have a beer, and hunt them in the light.

Again, thank you to all that are making this clearer, and sharing the information.

Tbone,

Take advantage of the night hunting in the AZ units that allow it. As a bonus we spot many bobcats at night while night hunting lions on the north rim, although you cant shoot the bobcats at night, it's great way to locate prime bobcat stand locations to hunt during the day.

 


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