Correct Terminology

pasturepup

New member
I love to watch all types of hunting shows on TV. I assume these people are considered professionals. The one thing that gets my goat is someone who hunts deer, and when hunting for the animal they see the antlers and yell, " I see HORNS!!" Come on people-- learn how to talk. Horns aren't shed, antlers are. And these people get paid for that. Just my .02 for the day.
 
It's in the Predator Vocabulary as well....

Lots of people call a stand a "set".

A "set" is actually where you place a trap.
A "stand" is where you call coyotes to come in and get shot.

A "Call" is what makes a "sound" that calls in coyotes.

Like... "That call makes a great rabbit sound".

Not...."My new digital caller has 100 calls on it."
smile.gif

(You can't stack that many "calls" on a digital caller. They topple over.)
blush.gif
 
I feel your pain!

One of the things that gets me are news reporters who seem to think that every firearm with a stock and long barrel is a rifle, or even more ignorant...an assault rifle. More than once I have heard of a "12 gauge double barreled rifle"!

Coming from a "Tech" background, I learned early on the importance of correct terminology. In most cases, using the wrong term is simply something that can be figured out but sometimes it can lead to severe consequences!
 
The one that bothers me is; magazine vs clip.
I can understand it with the Hollywood types but even many hunters and other shooters call magazines 'clips.'
I would bet money that 95% of hunters have never seen a clip in their whole life but they still will call a magazine a clip.

Jack
 
Then there is the difference between Predators and Varmints..A Predator, might eat you, while a Varmint will usually just make you sick...
drool.gif


While both may be desirable to be shot on sight,,, there is difference in the terminology..
 
Quote:And then theres the pronounciation of coyote. some say Ky-O-Tee, which is the proper way, but I say Ky-Yote.


Not that I post here very often anymore, but just happened to be here seeking a specific thread when I came across this.

Says who?

The Webster's I have on my desk gives three different vernacular pronunciations for Canis latrans, and two of them are pronounced as ki-yot, or derivatives thereof. Admittedly, it does include ki-yo-tee as well, but that pronouncement is outnumbered. If we want to refer to this animal by its real name, we should go to its root and origins, the N ahuatl term, "coyotl", which I occasionally use and which almost always draws strange looks.

Personally, when I hear someone use the word "ki-yo-tee", I am immediately left to deduce that this person is an urbanite, has no personal connection with ki-yotes, or just doesn't know how to pronounce the term. This is because, over the course of my life, I have known countless thousands of coyote hunters and researchers and have never, ever heard anyone who I felt knew what they were talking about in all things coyote pronounce it ki-yo-tee. Thus, I make it a practice to correct this indiscretion when it is uttered. One guy at a time, I'm saving the world.
wink.gif
 
Last edited:
Quote:The one that bothers me is; magazine vs clip.
I always thought that a magazine (as relates to firearms) was the container the held the ammunition and was necessary for firing the weapon, whereas a "Clip" was the container that held the ammunition but was discarded after the ammunition was loaded in the weapon...as in the M1 Garand,,,similar to a speed loader for a revolver...or a 'stripper clip' for an AR...
 
Originally Posted By: Cdog911Quote:And then theres the pronounciation of coyote. some say Ky-O-Tee, which is the proper way, but I say Ky-Yote.

Personally, when I hear someone use the word "ki-yo-tee", I am immediately left to deduce that this person is an urbanite, has no personal connection with ki-yotes, or just doesn't know how to pronounce the term. This is because, over the course of my life, I have known countless thousands of coyote hunters and researchers and have never, ever heard anyone who I felt knew what they were talking about in all things coyote pronounce it ki-yo-tee. Thus, I make it a practice to correct this indiscretion when it is uttered. One guy at a time, I'm saving the world.
wink.gif


Lance, I couldn't have stated it any better. And while I'm a few thousand behind you on knowing coyote "callers" , I'm fairly certain that I've met/known as many other types of coyote chasers...LOL.
I always felt that if it wasn't a "city vs country" thing, then it just meant that us here in the middle of the country were the more logical people.
After all, look at the word....COYOTE.....now pronounce the word QUOTE. It's pronounced "qu-ote", not "qu-ot-ee". LOL
 
I have seen a lot of hunting shows lately with archery hunts refering to the record book for them as Boone and Crockett. Unless I am wrong (Wouldnt be the first time), I believe it is Pope and Young for archery.
 
Originally Posted By: OldTurtleQuote:The one that bothers me is; magazine vs clip.
I always thought that a magazine (as relates to firearms) was the container the held the ammunition and was necessary for firing the weapon, whereas a "Clip" was the container that held the ammunition but was discarded after the ammunition was loaded in the weapon...as in the M1 Garand,,,similar to a speed loader for a revolver...or a 'stripper clip' for an AR...

It is my understanding that magazines have springs and followers...
clips don't.
Both are used to hold ammunition, both as a loading device (stripper clips) and to actually allow the firearm to fire (moon clips in a revolver or a clip in a Garand)
But I could be wrong.
Mark
 
Funny what gets your goat aint it.What gets me is people that can't say speghetti.They call it besketti.Another thing I would like to know is,are there any black people that can pronounce the word ask? Axe is what you chop wood with!
 
Military people don't put a "t" sound on the end of "sabot". They call it a "say-bo". Most shotgun/muzzleloader hunters will call it a "sab-it".

Also, I see this all the time. "Hornady" only has one "a". Why do so many pronounce, and even spell it "Honaday"?

I grew up with a mother who was the school speech pathologist. She taught kids correct pronunciation. You can bet I was talking pretty well by the time I was one year old because of this. Slang was not tolerated when I was little. I think I use a lot of slang now. Maybe it's a rebellion against my upbringing. After a summer working road construction, my language can get pretty foul, but I still clean it up when I have to.

How many of you say you "seen a coyote"? Technically it's "saw a coyote". Our speech does allow us to identify with our subcultures. I do believe it is a city-folk / country folk thing, and whatever those around you said when you were learning. It's also a geographic thing. North / South. I was born and raised in Minnesota. "Hollow" comes easier to my tongue than "Holler" when speaking of a tight valley branching off a larger one. Actually we might call it a "ravine" here too.

It seems many think you have to sound like you're from Kentucky or Texas to be a good hunter. Around here you can pretty much talk however you want and still have good feeshun' and huntin', doncha know. Yaaah!
 
Quote:"Hollow" comes easier to my tongue than "Holler" when speaking of a tight valley branching off a larger one. Actually we might call it a "ravine" here too.


Not to be anal about it, but I was corrected by an Ozark hillbilly sort who explained that when mountains are pushed up, the low areas between them are valleys. When the low areas are created by millions of years of erosion creating what look like mountains, these low areas are called hollows. I don't know if that is correct, but he was certainly emphatic. Who was I to argue; I'm from Kansas. I've used ravine, but also refer to it as a "cut" or a "fold", too.

Lots of terms get to me. Canada geese are not "Canadian".

Sabot is say-bo, unless you are a hick and can't speak even the most rudimentary French. Then again, why would you want to?

The father of modern wildlife management was Aldo Leopold, pronounced Lay-o-pold. The guys that invented the scope's last name was Leupold, pronounced Loo-pold.

I've heard that one on Hornady. Never caught it though.

The worst is my last name, Homman. For future reference, it is pronounced Hah-mun, not Hoe-man or Hoe-mun. Two m's. short "O". You'd think that was obvious, but not even my college profs knew how to read. Amazing how far some people can get with a half-arsed education.
smile.gif
Whenever someone mispronounces it, I beckon back to a training officer in my EMS days who told me, as far as using a patient's name, "Ask for their name. Make sure you use it and pronounce it correctly. It's the first thing you're given when you're born and the only thing uniquely yours which you take with you when you die. It's THAT important."
(Edited for spelling. Doh!!!)
 
Last edited:
here i don't sweat the petty stuff i pet the sweaty stuff
wub.gif

my pet peeve is spelling and grammar teachers on the Internet.
angry.gif

yep we are a little red neck here
thumbup.gif

a magazine is a box below the bolt to hold yer next 3 or 4 shots
rolleyes.gif

a clip is one you can remove and replace with a new one fur many more shots.
wink.gif

a coyote is what ya shootin at
drool.gif

its pronounced BOOM WHACK.
lol.gif
lol.gif

ROTFLMAO
 
i have found out there are calls and there are some "good calls" the ones the wife will not let me use they sit on my shelf.{i have to sneak them out to play with them}
calls are just tools full of sand dirt and spit
a "set" is where i set up, a stand is the act of calling and length of time calling from my set.
and horns or antlers, antelope shed the sheaths of there horns so the logic that antlers are shed and horns are not doesn't hold water.
each state has its own pronunciations of words
in Wyoming we call our state wyomin its called accents
kinda like you all or yall.
word of warning don't let my wife catch you using her black and white ebony calls from tjones OUCH
scared.gif

anyone seen my head cuz she bit it off.
cry.gif

its much easier to type or say "clip" then "detachable magazine" so wheres the harm in that. its like "laugh out loud" or "lol'
if the little stuff upsets you then your going to be upset your whole life. i have found out in the last year money words and little things are not importent and are not worth getting my hackles up over. the only things worth worring over are life and death situations
 
Last edited:
if they are from Canada doesn't that make them Canadian ay
lol.gif

Pope and Young is a archery only record book.
blink.gif

Boone and crockett is any deer shot with a bow rifle or even hit by a car.
rolleyes.gif
it has a higher standard and if a bow hunter shoots a deer that will make Boone and Crockett they will enter it there and pope and young and maybe even SCI.
tongue_smilie.gif

predator or varmint + jack rabbits are listed as predators in Wyoming's game regulations so they can be hunted at night varmints can not be spot lighted
wink.gif
 
Last edited:


Write your reply...
Back
Top