owyheeyote
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Ahh Crap! Now I have to come up with a new user name. I wonder if the coyotes will notice.
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coyote proper name
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Orneryolfart357
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Why in Coyote Gods name would you need a new name ? lol /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif I just call em Coyotes, regardless of Politically correctivity... lol
huntsman22
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I just went thru the user list. 9 pages of the 'Y's, start with yot or yote. Just under 200 members. I didn't wanna waste time looking for handles ending in yote (or that has yote in the middle somewhere....) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Like the esteemed member above, there are bound to be a bunch..... The moderators are gonna be busy making all these folks get more proper-er /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif This whole thread is an absolute crack-up...... Don't forget to turn these rebellious, improper, non-respectors in to the PC poh-lice. Many of them are considered armed and dangerous, so ya better have the whaaaaambulance on stand-by incase of violence. Don /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
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... it amazes me that some go to the extreme of getting mad about it, or refuse to talk about hunting with someone just because of this...
Yotehunter74:
Who got mad or refused to talk hunting because of it? I'll admit to my own display of annoyance at some of the descriptive terminology that was used by others, as well as posting an annoyingly longwinded reply pertaining to those descriptions and my opinions on the subject, but I didn't see me or anybody else hollering or getting mad...if being annoyed and/or ranting was getting mad,that rock band would have been called "Rant about the Machine" or " Annoyed at the Machine", not "Rage Against the Machine" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. I don't know, maybe my definition of "rant" is different than others...no matter. I do know that I tend to get longwinded without realizing it until the latter part of a post(doing it now), and it's easier for me to just apologize for it than delete all my efforts and not say what I wanted to.
I kinda figured it was just a vigorous discussion about voiced opinions...just like in a watering hole, sometimes the voicing gets louder and longer as it progresses and more folks get involved. Sometimes terminology gets used that may offend someone and hey, turnabout is fairplay in my book. It's not like anybody made any derogatory comments about somebody's mother or something. Truth be known, I'd much rather be referred to as an "anus" than a "bunny huggin' city slicker" any day of the week...anyway, at least nobody has busted any barstools or pool cues over someone else's head yet /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif. No issues Bro, no issues /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif.
... it amazes me that some go to the extreme of getting mad about it, or refuse to talk about hunting with someone just because of this...
Yotehunter74:
Who got mad or refused to talk hunting because of it? I'll admit to my own display of annoyance at some of the descriptive terminology that was used by others, as well as posting an annoyingly longwinded reply pertaining to those descriptions and my opinions on the subject, but I didn't see me or anybody else hollering or getting mad...if being annoyed and/or ranting was getting mad,that rock band would have been called "Rant about the Machine" or " Annoyed at the Machine", not "Rage Against the Machine" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. I don't know, maybe my definition of "rant" is different than others...no matter. I do know that I tend to get longwinded without realizing it until the latter part of a post(doing it now), and it's easier for me to just apologize for it than delete all my efforts and not say what I wanted to.
I kinda figured it was just a vigorous discussion about voiced opinions...just like in a watering hole, sometimes the voicing gets louder and longer as it progresses and more folks get involved. Sometimes terminology gets used that may offend someone and hey, turnabout is fairplay in my book. It's not like anybody made any derogatory comments about somebody's mother or something. Truth be known, I'd much rather be referred to as an "anus" than a "bunny huggin' city slicker" any day of the week...anyway, at least nobody has busted any barstools or pool cues over someone else's head yet /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif. No issues Bro, no issues /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif.
HighPlainsDrifter
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I get the impression that some have missed the point of bearmanric's initial post. Some of this may be due to the fact that many are not aware of "the other site". There is another predator hunting site on the web where one will be chastised and berated and in some cases, tar'd and feathered, if they refer to our favorite canine as anything other than a Coyote or if they shoot one with anything other than a .17 calibre centerfire cartridge. I wholeheartedly agree with their philosophy that the Coyote deserves the respect of any game animal as they are a very worthy and intelligent quarry. I do believe however that it is a little ridiculous for anyone to issue a verbal tongue lashing or to label another hunter for their choice of terminology or choice of calibre. The terminology issue is simply a matter of semantics. Living in the west I have no problem if you refer to a Mule Deer as a Mulie or a Pronghorn as an Antelope or goat. Why should I care if you prefer to call a Coyote a Coyotee, dog, yote, songdog or brush wolf? They are all the same animal. Isn't calling a Mountain Lion a Cougar or vise versa the same thing? For me or anyone else to make an assumption about anyones ability, experience or upbringing based on their terminology choices would be nothing short of ignorant and chances are, you would be wrong. Considering the current attack on our hunting rights and our right to bear arms, I think it is a huge mistake for us as fellow hunters and sportsman (not meant gender specific) to argue, fight and belittle each other over issues so trivial.
yotehunter74
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Bdawg I didnt mean that you were getting mad ... the post is a reflection of others on other boards that got out of hand... and people got a little bent about the subject... and they too started out like this... it is just an observation ... its all good... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
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I would also like to suggest that whichever way the Native Americans pronounce(d)the name would most likely be the correct way.
Great idea. But... there are almost as many words and pronunciations for coyote as there are Native American languages, though some languages may share the word. That would probably be several hundred Native American words for coyote. One sample from Native Americans would be the Okanagan word for coyote: sin'klip. There are several spelling variations to stab at the pronunciation which cannot be expressed by the English alphabet, nor by English language sounds.
So alas, the Native American solution has more problems and competitors than our current crop of coyote, coyotee, kiyute, song dog, sage puppy, yodel dog, brush wolf, dog, etc.
Coyote is a Spanish word I believe, pronounced something like coi-yo-tay.
This gets funnier by the hour.
Like others, I am kind of amazed that any posters on this topic think that anyone is mad, won't talk to other hunters, is demanding others use their preferred term for coyote, is demanding correct punctuation, etc. etc. For most of us this is a relaxed holiday discussion with some light banter kidding each other about personal preferences, with no demands on anyone.
I.e. Call a coyote anything you want. I can't imagine anyone being offended by any of the common terms, and no one in this thread has spoken of being ofended, just that certain terms for animals give them negative impressions of the speaker. That is true for every human being on earth with regard to certain words. "As soon as an Englishman opens his mouth, another Englishman hates him." (My Fair Lady)
There is nothing new in this thread except for the interesting personal info of finding out some of our preferred names for critters. Unlax. Nobody is out to turn us in to the word and grammar police.
Spell and punctuate your writing any way you want. If you want others to understand it, it has to be close enough to the written code others understand for them to get it. If it is very hard to figure out what you mean, most people will skip it. That doesn't mean they are mad, offended nor that they demand you do it their way. They just ignore it the same way they ignore telemarketers who can't speak English well enough for most Americans to understand.
BTW, I like Swiss cheese better than Cheddar.
I would also like to suggest that whichever way the Native Americans pronounce(d)the name would most likely be the correct way.
Great idea. But... there are almost as many words and pronunciations for coyote as there are Native American languages, though some languages may share the word. That would probably be several hundred Native American words for coyote. One sample from Native Americans would be the Okanagan word for coyote: sin'klip. There are several spelling variations to stab at the pronunciation which cannot be expressed by the English alphabet, nor by English language sounds.
So alas, the Native American solution has more problems and competitors than our current crop of coyote, coyotee, kiyute, song dog, sage puppy, yodel dog, brush wolf, dog, etc.
Coyote is a Spanish word I believe, pronounced something like coi-yo-tay.
This gets funnier by the hour.
Like others, I am kind of amazed that any posters on this topic think that anyone is mad, won't talk to other hunters, is demanding others use their preferred term for coyote, is demanding correct punctuation, etc. etc. For most of us this is a relaxed holiday discussion with some light banter kidding each other about personal preferences, with no demands on anyone.
I.e. Call a coyote anything you want. I can't imagine anyone being offended by any of the common terms, and no one in this thread has spoken of being ofended, just that certain terms for animals give them negative impressions of the speaker. That is true for every human being on earth with regard to certain words. "As soon as an Englishman opens his mouth, another Englishman hates him." (My Fair Lady)
There is nothing new in this thread except for the interesting personal info of finding out some of our preferred names for critters. Unlax. Nobody is out to turn us in to the word and grammar police.
Spell and punctuate your writing any way you want. If you want others to understand it, it has to be close enough to the written code others understand for them to get it. If it is very hard to figure out what you mean, most people will skip it. That doesn't mean they are mad, offended nor that they demand you do it their way. They just ignore it the same way they ignore telemarketers who can't speak English well enough for most Americans to understand.
BTW, I like Swiss cheese better than Cheddar.
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it's funny you can tell the new guy's. calling coyote's all the other different name's. like yotee. dog and the many other name's one one site you would get banned other's a lecture.alot of the veteren's. call them coyote's out of respect. just funny reading the post. Rick
Just trying to read that makes my brain hurt. BTW.....Who left the latch off the door a Coyote Gods? I started doing this a mere 43 years ago so I guess I'm a beginner in this guy's (notice the correct use of an apostrophe) eyes because I've been calling them dogs ever since I joined the old California Varmint Callers Association in 1964 and heard every other active member calling them dogs. You may call me a veteren but I prefer to be called a veteran. IMHO it's just a matter of respect!
From now on I suppose we should all refer to them as Canis Latrans but knowing how you "new guy's" are it'd only be a short time before someone shortened it to "Canlats" or even "Cans." OMG........is this for real??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
it's funny you can tell the new guy's. calling coyote's all the other different name's. like yotee. dog and the many other name's one one site you would get banned other's a lecture.alot of the veteren's. call them coyote's out of respect. just funny reading the post. Rick
Just trying to read that makes my brain hurt. BTW.....Who left the latch off the door a Coyote Gods? I started doing this a mere 43 years ago so I guess I'm a beginner in this guy's (notice the correct use of an apostrophe) eyes because I've been calling them dogs ever since I joined the old California Varmint Callers Association in 1964 and heard every other active member calling them dogs. You may call me a veteren but I prefer to be called a veteran. IMHO it's just a matter of respect!
From now on I suppose we should all refer to them as Canis Latrans but knowing how you "new guy's" are it'd only be a short time before someone shortened it to "Canlats" or even "Cans." OMG........is this for real??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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During my freshman year of college, I had a "big city easterner" sociology PhD tell me that I should take voice and articulation classes because when I spoke I sounded "dumb"! I could not get it through his head that he was continuing the slow loss of my culture. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/angry-smiley-055.gif I was dead serious, he thought I was full of crap! Here was this "big time" sociology professor, that had come to eastern Kentucky to "educate us for the better" and couldn't see that he was "changing" what he truly should have been observing, as a Sociologist!
Redhound80
Thank you! You were and are far wiser than the prof. That's always a difficult position for a student!
I'm impressed that you saw your language in true light rather than being cowed. Good for you, and thanks for a superb and insightful post.
During my freshman year of college, I had a "big city easterner" sociology PhD tell me that I should take voice and articulation classes because when I spoke I sounded "dumb"! I could not get it through his head that he was continuing the slow loss of my culture. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/angry-smiley-055.gif I was dead serious, he thought I was full of crap! Here was this "big time" sociology professor, that had come to eastern Kentucky to "educate us for the better" and couldn't see that he was "changing" what he truly should have been observing, as a Sociologist!
Redhound80
Thank you! You were and are far wiser than the prof. That's always a difficult position for a student!
I'm impressed that you saw your language in true light rather than being cowed. Good for you, and thanks for a superb and insightful post.
NorthernWY
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I've seen your posts on the other site a time or two. A hand full of those d-bags are just waiting for someone to write something in their post like dog or yote so that they can all chastise the hell out of the poor guy that just wanted to share a cool hunting story. Coyoteeee is like nails on a chalk board to me but other then that I couldn't care less either.
huntsman22
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I right yote on here just because its shorter and easier.
Heck, I type with only one finger. Believe me, it's not that hard to make a couple keystrokes......... I learned to spell in the 3rd grade, but quit school before I larned the rest of the finer points of the englitch lanquage. Spellcheck is a wonderful tool......
Weasel, THAT is an all time classic. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Don
I right yote on here just because its shorter and easier.
Heck, I type with only one finger. Believe me, it's not that hard to make a couple keystrokes......... I learned to spell in the 3rd grade, but quit school before I larned the rest of the finer points of the englitch lanquage. Spellcheck is a wonderful tool......
Weasel, THAT is an all time classic. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Don
Chupathingy
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BTW, I like Swiss cheese better than Cheddar.
YOU!!!!!!! Communist! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
YOU!!!!!!! Communist! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Jay Nistetter
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Gosh. With all the different names, next time I see one and finally decide what it is, it'll be too late to shoot/kill/harvest/ambush/dispatch/murder the cute little critter/varmint thingie.
edited to add that I would really like to get one of those speed goats. Personally I think the name is "catchy".
re-edited for punctuation.
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fwiw... I call them dogs a lot of the time and quite frequently will need to stop and explain to the casual ear that "NO I DIDN'T SHOOT SOMEONE'S GOLDEN RETREIVER. IT WAS A COYOTE."
edited to add that I would really like to get one of those speed goats. Personally I think the name is "catchy".
re-edited for punctuation.
re-re-edited for spelling.
fwiw... I call them dogs a lot of the time and quite frequently will need to stop and explain to the casual ear that "NO I DIDN'T SHOOT SOMEONE'S GOLDEN RETREIVER. IT WAS A COYOTE."
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I would also like to suggest that whichever way the Native Americans pronounce(d)the name would most likely be the correct way.
Great idea. But... there are almost as many words and pronunciations for coyote as there are Native American languages, though some languages may share the word. That would probably be several hundred Native American words for coyote. One sample from Native Americans would be the Okanagan word for coyote: sin'klip. There are several spelling variations to stab at the pronunciation which cannot be expressed by the English alphabet, nor by English language sounds.
So alas, the Native American solution has more problems and competitors than our current crop of coyote, coyotee, kiyute, song dog, sage puppy, yodel dog, brush wolf, dog, etc.
Good grief, talk about an example of speaking before the brain has been fully engaged on my part /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif...maybe if I had thought about that one for a minute before saying it, I'd have considered the fact that not all Native Americans speak with the same language. I'm truly embarrassed /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
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I would also like to suggest that whichever way the Native Americans pronounce(d)the name would most likely be the correct way.
Great idea. But... there are almost as many words and pronunciations for coyote as there are Native American languages, though some languages may share the word. That would probably be several hundred Native American words for coyote. One sample from Native Americans would be the Okanagan word for coyote: sin'klip. There are several spelling variations to stab at the pronunciation which cannot be expressed by the English alphabet, nor by English language sounds.
So alas, the Native American solution has more problems and competitors than our current crop of coyote, coyotee, kiyute, song dog, sage puppy, yodel dog, brush wolf, dog, etc.
Good grief, talk about an example of speaking before the brain has been fully engaged on my part /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif...maybe if I had thought about that one for a minute before saying it, I'd have considered the fact that not all Native Americans speak with the same language. I'm truly embarrassed /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
bearmanric
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i dont care what people call the coyote's. i'm just saying we have alot of new guy's wich is awsome. and you can tell there new. by the name's the call the Yotee. call them what you want this is Predatormaster's. only thing i'm not into is killing summer coyote's. i'm 49 and i just think about the pup's starving. but if the coyote's cause problem's they need to be delt with. Rick
huntnfish08
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I used coyotEE, as thats what I always heard growing up and now found out is the correct pronunciation of the word. When I went to AZ when I was about 12 I heard someone refer to them as "KI-oats". Liked that better as it rolls off the tongue. Thats what I've been calling them ever since. Now yote is just a quick way to say or type coyote and get my pronunciation/dialect to the reader. Makes the stories on here that much better. Gets you into the authors mindset as you read it.
I was in the Army so I talked to people from all over the United States on a daily basis. You learn to just take someones dialect for what it is and listen.
I personally can't stand when someone refers to Antler as Horn/s! Drives me nuts. I almost always correct them and tell them why. Most people never knew the difference before me telling them. After years getting on my closest hunting buddies I now hear them get on people about "Horns". Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing knowledge is being passed along!
Clips vs. Magazines. I use the terms correctly but could care less about how others use them. To me I'm either being asked or asking for more ammunition!
Gun vs. Weapon. Being that I was in the Army it was driven into my head that my M16 was in fact a Weapon used to kill people with. As such it should always be refered to as a weapon. That works in the Army but if I ask my "hunt'n buddies" for a weapon I'd get a blank stare. Around here everything is fair game and will be killed with whatever weapon is closest and in season. Be it a bow, rifle, shotgun, or smokepole(muzzleloader). So weapon is too broad a term.
POINT: say whatever you want around me just don't say that that "speed goat" had a great set of antlers, or "Look at the huge horns on that Whitetail".
I was in the Army so I talked to people from all over the United States on a daily basis. You learn to just take someones dialect for what it is and listen.
I personally can't stand when someone refers to Antler as Horn/s! Drives me nuts. I almost always correct them and tell them why. Most people never knew the difference before me telling them. After years getting on my closest hunting buddies I now hear them get on people about "Horns". Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing knowledge is being passed along!
Clips vs. Magazines. I use the terms correctly but could care less about how others use them. To me I'm either being asked or asking for more ammunition!
Gun vs. Weapon. Being that I was in the Army it was driven into my head that my M16 was in fact a Weapon used to kill people with. As such it should always be refered to as a weapon. That works in the Army but if I ask my "hunt'n buddies" for a weapon I'd get a blank stare. Around here everything is fair game and will be killed with whatever weapon is closest and in season. Be it a bow, rifle, shotgun, or smokepole(muzzleloader). So weapon is too broad a term.
POINT: say whatever you want around me just don't say that that "speed goat" had a great set of antlers, or "Look at the huge horns on that Whitetail".