Custom Rifle builder sides with PETA

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As hunters it seems we are always trying to defend and protect our rights to hunt and pursue our heritage in a peaceful lawful manner. We must address the ARA [Animal rights activists} on a daily basis. Organizations like Predator Masters have stated goals to protect and promote our sport. We have one forum dedicated to supporting these goals. In it we can be advised of threats and can discuss actions we need to take to defend our sport.

As some of you know Dan Carey was a member and sponsor here, and that his sponsorship was revoked and he was refunded fees on a prorated basis He was subsequently banned for TOS violations and behavior unbecoming a member of PM.

We have for the most part ignored him. As a result of his latest actions, this must change.

Here are some posts made by Dan Carey on another board. Identities on that board are protected to allow the poster anonymity. Through his own admission, Dan Carey is Capt. Ahab.

These are some of the posts made in reaction to the announcement of our annual hunt and convention to be held in New Mexico this year.

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"Capt Ahab Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 9:27 pm


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I think you guys are being a little hard on pussgut and the boys.

They after all are just trying to make the annual Will Craig Memorial PM Hunt into something really special. The predatormasters.com Convention and hunt.

In 2011 it will be called predatormasters.com convention without the hunt, after all pussgut isn't really a hunter.

In 2012 it will be called pussguts revenge and will be held in edmonton canada. Or, how about predatormasters.com annual convention to be held at Disneyland and the bar next door.

I think its a great idea to have the convention in LC. What was truly great about the previous hunts is they were held in the founders home town and with little effort the hunting was very good. Seems every year some either killed a lion or at least called one. Cheap licenses and no hassles from G&F cops. No speeding tickets, no shortage of rooms at one hotel with "convention" meeting rooms within walking distance.

I've been thinking, what would a PETA demonstration would look like at the "convention". I wonder if someone could get one going, I think you can do that in the NM, might be a little harder on the rez.

Form letter we all could send.

Dear PETA, I happen to know where a large group of so called hunters, some of which are actually a drunks, are going to congregate and start the wanton murder of predators, namely beautiful YOY coyotes, while intoxicated. They neither use the pelts or the meat from these animals they kill. It is also know that some of them use German attack dogs to dispatch the wounded animals. Picture attached.



Then a day later:

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http://www.peta.org/about/c-report_cruelty.asp


The predatormasters.com has begun its annual war on coyotes. This year, hunters will shoot and not skin up to 200 of these beautiful animals. Now more than ever before, it is vital to speak up and demand a permanent end to the cruel slaughter and to urge everyone you know to speak out as well.

All eyes are on Las Cruces, New Mexico as it prepares to host the 2010 predatormasters.com convention and hunt. This extra attention will bring increased scrutiny and comes with the added responsibility of setting a positive example for the world. That's why we are calling on you to use your clout to help stop the slaughter of predators for the thrill of killing a defenceless animal.


Please write to the anti cruelty of wild animals Organizing Committee and demand that it help bring an immediate end to the coyote slaughter. Share this action alert with everyone you know. A few minutes of your time will make a huge difference for Gods predators.


When one poster disagreed with Dan Carey. Dan posted this reply.

"Capt Ahab Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:32 am


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Well, I didn't know there was a line in Snarks and Shreds. We may not agree with everything said here, but in general we do agree PMS is a target. Maybe more mine than yours.




These are direct quotes from Dan Carey of Carey custom rifle .com. on another website.

http://predatormonster.com/forum/

He is a member of several hunting websites

Because of the that site's policy of poster anonymity, we are unable to identify all the supporters of Dan Carey's campaign. We do know that some are are also members of Predator Masters.

Predator Masters can no longer stand by without taking action to state our position on ARA organizations and their supporters.

The Dan Carey, and Careycustomrifle.com is in the censor and promotion of his products and services will no longer be allowed on this forum. It is a sad day when a builder of firearms will direct the ARA to disrupt a hunting event."

As most here know, the ARA was alerted to our hunt on the San Carlos Reservation last year. It was not a problem because the Reservation being a Sovereign nation would not allow them access to us. We were forced to defend our sport and our annual hunt to the media We shouldn't have to go through this at our hunt in NM or any other time.
 
What a turncoat sob! Maybe somebody should give the brady people the address to his shop! That would teach him to talk trash about Rockinbbar's dog Buster. That German attack dog obviously has more intelligence then this Carey clown.
 
The enemy within. Thanks for the heads up. This guy would sure be unhappy with my gopher count this year /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif.
 
The enemy within. Thanks for the heads up. This guy would sure be unhappy with my gopher count this year /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif.

Btw, where is he from? Sure don't want him making rifles in Montana under our new Made in Montana firearms law /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
MJM shame on you as well. using his gun in our egg shoot to mess with us.if you are in this year's eggshoot. i will not enter. wasnt fun last year every one knowing anti's were coming to ruin our hunt. Dan Carey screwed his own Predator Hunter's in Arizona also. Rick
 
that guy is a ***!! i read the whole forum post and couldn't believe the admin allowed this fool to post what he did /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif. don't they know its hurting them as well as all other hunters?
 
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I just went to the predatormonsters site, they sound like a bunch of angry drunks. All they do is wine complain and carry on about how bad PM is. Honestly I think they are way off base. Everyone here has been kind, helpfully and share a love for predator hunting. There is the occasional angry bald guy when some one doesn’t let a fish go back into the water /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif but seriously this is a very fair and good natured community. This rifle builder is cutting off his nose to spite his face.
 
I am a new member here and was talking to my hunting partner about going down for the fun and entertainment. This guy has a serious bug up his butt that needs to be removed. We are all conservasionists we just do it a little differently why can't he fiqure that out.
 
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that guy is a ***!! i read the whole forum post and couldn't believe the admin allowed this fool to post what he did /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif. don't they know its hurting them as well as all other hunters?


There isn't much moderation on that site.

Kudos to users Wyatt Earp and Davey Crocket for standing up for what is right.
 
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I have never been involved with a sight that has a better bunch of guys than PM. As far as I'm concerned he doesn't deserve to be in the company of the fellas on here. And I'm also sure that he just lost a lot more friends than he made!!!
 
I don't know how many believe that and I don't think it really matters. The fact that he has gone to the extent to put together this letter, even if it is fictitious can still do the same amount of damage. He is either seriously disturbed, ignorant, or both...

Posting that sort of thing on an open forum is dangerous to anyone who enjoys our sport, regardless of his intentions or any grudges that he holds!
 
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I don't know how many believe that and I don't think it really matters. The fact that he has gone to the extent to put together this letter, even if it is fictitious can still do the same amount of damage. He is either seriously disturbed, ignorant, or both...

Posting that sort of thing on an open forum is dangerous to anyone who enjoys our sport, regardless of his intentions or any grudges that he holds!




I agree with that. It was in bad taste. Taking a step back and thinking about it more, anything posted in an open forum can be viewed by some others and then spun to reflect on our sport negatively. With that said I think many are missing the point that this was nothing more then a bad joke.

I like Dan, respect and admire his ability to build a rifle and get along with him in person. I consider him a friend and would like for this to not be happening. I do think that he has taken this little "grudge" with PM to far.

However he is his own man and will make his own decisions.

Hopefully nothing comes of any of this and like most "off season" drama it fades away in time.

Cant wait until the fall....
 
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Having a beef with PM is one thing, most that have been here awhile know about it..... no biggie, whatever. This latest attack brings the problems to people who have never done anything to him, or even know the man. I would liken this to not much more than a random terrorist act against the innocent. He is or was in the business of selling custom rifles to hunters and target shooters, seems like thats just biting the hand that feeds you. Dan used to be a pretty decent guy. Being booted from here has seemed to consume him to the extent of self ruination just to receive some sort of payback, its sad......it really is sad.
 
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