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Beautiful dog Congratulations. I miss my DTA nice rig
Dropped a Coy-Wolf, or did I?
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Wallbass45
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Very nice Yote, could be an Eastern Yote migrated West
orkan
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Originally Posted By: possumalI don't think you'd be bragging if you weighed him and posted his weight. That ship sailed already. If a dog gets blown apart, or has mange, he gets left in a badger hole or something rather than being dragged back to the truck. I'd love to have him and weigh him... but alas that's a no-go.
SlickerThanSnot
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Originally Posted By: orkanOriginally Posted By: possumalI don't think you'd be bragging if you weighed him and posted his weight. That ship sailed already. If a dog gets blown apart, or has mange, he gets left in a badger hole or something rather than being dragged back to the truck. I'd love to have him and weigh him... but alas that's a no-go.
if its a coyote that might be the biggest coyote I ever killed that coyote IS going to be weighed. mange, fleas, 3 legged, one eared, blowed up, blind, crippled or crazy. it IS getting weighed. I know exactly what my biggest ever coyote weighed. if I kill one I think is bigger it WILL get weighed. even if I have to take a scale to the coyote it will be weighed. don't care if anybody else ever knows what it weighed. but I will know.
if its a coyote that might be the biggest coyote I ever killed that coyote IS going to be weighed. mange, fleas, 3 legged, one eared, blowed up, blind, crippled or crazy. it IS getting weighed. I know exactly what my biggest ever coyote weighed. if I kill one I think is bigger it WILL get weighed. even if I have to take a scale to the coyote it will be weighed. don't care if anybody else ever knows what it weighed. but I will know.
Ursus21
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Nice fat coyote for sure. Scales and range finders make liars out of the best of us though.
I've killed some huge coyotes and I can tell you right now that coyote doesn't weigh as much as some of you think.
Example: I killed this coyote a couple years ago and weighed it. I am 6' tall and weigh 200 lbs for size reference for you. So how much did this coyote weigh? I'm not trying to fool anyone, it is a BIG coyote, but what does he weigh?
I've killed some huge coyotes and I can tell you right now that coyote doesn't weigh as much as some of you think.
Example: I killed this coyote a couple years ago and weighed it. I am 6' tall and weigh 200 lbs for size reference for you. So how much did this coyote weigh? I'm not trying to fool anyone, it is a BIG coyote, but what does he weigh?
orkan
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Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnotif its a coyote that might be the biggest coyote I ever killed that coyote IS going to be weighed. mange, fleas, 3 legged, one eared, blowed up, blind, crippled or crazy. it IS getting weighed. I know exactly what my biggest ever coyote weighed. if I kill one I think is bigger it WILL get weighed. even if I have to take a scale to the coyote it will be weighed. don't care if anybody else ever knows what it weighed. but I will know.
I follow ya. ... I guess I never have been too wrapped up about it. I hunt for the enjoyment of it more than anything, but when talking about it, I hate being the guy telling big fish stories. I try not to embellish... and weighing them would certainly help with that.
I do have pretty calibrated arms... since I have two young kids (2 and 4) and they are being weighed constantly, and I'm tossing them around constantly. So I know what 40lbs feels like.
This dog weighed considerably more than my 40lb 4yr old daughter.
I do have pretty calibrated arms... since I have two young kids (2 and 4) and they are being weighed constantly, and I'm tossing them around constantly. So I know what 40lbs feels like.
lyotehunter
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pick up a fourty lb.bag of salt then see how much you think the dog weighs they are easy to over estimate
vt coy caller
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....48 lbs ?
lyotehunter
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the one in the pict,34lbs
Looks to be all coyote to me. The biggest one I ever killed was 35+ years ago in Northern New york. It weighed 52 pounds on a milk house scale. I've been hunting and trapping coyotes ever since and have killed several over 40 pounds and only a handful that approached 50 pounds. But every one of them was all coyote.
Living in Alaska now with a good population of both wolves and coyotes, I've never seen a coyote that exhibited any traits that would lead me to believe they were crossed with wolves. I remember as a kid back in the North Country of New York, many of the arm chair experts were calling the coyotes that were showing up in the area, "coy dogs". They seemed unwilling to believe we could be having coyotes back there and claimed they were coyote/dog crosses. I always wondered where the coyote stocks came from to produce these "coy dogs" and why none of the "coy dogs" had any dog characteristics. I know the cross is possible but have only seen it with a female coyote that had been raised by humans and breed with a domestic dog. I also know that in a little over 3000 wild coyotes, I've never seen one that had even a hint of dog or wolf characteristics.
I'm not a biologist, just an old coyote hunter and trapper. I've read numerous conflicting reports from biologist. Some suggest the coyotes and wolves cross, others indicate the DNA of eastern coyotes is identical to western coyotes. I honestly don't know which is right but would be inclined to believe, based on my experience, coyotes do not cross with wolves or dogs, or if they do it is so infrequent as to be statistically zero.
Living in Alaska now with a good population of both wolves and coyotes, I've never seen a coyote that exhibited any traits that would lead me to believe they were crossed with wolves. I remember as a kid back in the North Country of New York, many of the arm chair experts were calling the coyotes that were showing up in the area, "coy dogs". They seemed unwilling to believe we could be having coyotes back there and claimed they were coyote/dog crosses. I always wondered where the coyote stocks came from to produce these "coy dogs" and why none of the "coy dogs" had any dog characteristics. I know the cross is possible but have only seen it with a female coyote that had been raised by humans and breed with a domestic dog. I also know that in a little over 3000 wild coyotes, I've never seen one that had even a hint of dog or wolf characteristics.
I'm not a biologist, just an old coyote hunter and trapper. I've read numerous conflicting reports from biologist. Some suggest the coyotes and wolves cross, others indicate the DNA of eastern coyotes is identical to western coyotes. I honestly don't know which is right but would be inclined to believe, based on my experience, coyotes do not cross with wolves or dogs, or if they do it is so infrequent as to be statistically zero.
Lungbuster
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Looks like a 30lb coyote to me. JMO.
wolftrapper
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There is a documentary out there about the coy wolf. I found it on Netflix a while back. According to it, back east the coyotes and wolves do interbreed, but that it is due to the eastern gray wolf, for some reason. Has only occurred in that area, and that particular strain of wolf.
About coyotes and dogs crossing, I have seen evidence that it happens, but just my observation.
I knew a fellow in Alaska who called me to look at an animal that he had trapped. This was in the '70's. Asked me if it was a coyote, or dog. It appeared to be a coyote/collie cross. There was a family who lived nearby, who had collies, and that darned animal looked like exactly what you would expect from that combination. Definitely had coyote ears, but the rest looked dog-like....enough so that he didn't bother to skin it. That was on Schrock/Pittman road, Mart.
Two other times in Alaska I came across animals that looked something like a wolf, but not quite right. One of these was in the early sixties, the other in the seventies...but the same area, and both animals could have been twins. Close to being a wolf, but not close enough to skin. That was pretty wild country back then, too. Talkeetna mountain range, Bald Ridge.
Just what I observed, and after all this time, I still don't know.
About coyotes and dogs crossing, I have seen evidence that it happens, but just my observation.
I knew a fellow in Alaska who called me to look at an animal that he had trapped. This was in the '70's. Asked me if it was a coyote, or dog. It appeared to be a coyote/collie cross. There was a family who lived nearby, who had collies, and that darned animal looked like exactly what you would expect from that combination. Definitely had coyote ears, but the rest looked dog-like....enough so that he didn't bother to skin it. That was on Schrock/Pittman road, Mart.
Two other times in Alaska I came across animals that looked something like a wolf, but not quite right. One of these was in the early sixties, the other in the seventies...but the same area, and both animals could have been twins. Close to being a wolf, but not close enough to skin. That was pretty wild country back then, too. Talkeetna mountain range, Bald Ridge.
Just what I observed, and after all this time, I still don't know.
I don't doubt that the crosses have happened but my contention is that it is extremely rare. I haven't seen the coyote/wolf documentary. That would be interesting. When I trapped in Northern New York, I was only 20 miles from the Canadian border but never caught any coyotes I thought might have been the result of a wolf cross. I suppose it's possible. I'm not enough of a biologist to say anything with certainty.