F-class accuracy

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I'm looking for a 600 yard gun, 308 I think, wouldn't mind using it in the local F class matches, and I will hunt with it, but weight isn't going to trump accuracy, I'll deal with carrying a 13-15lb gun and wont complain if it is hitting the mark.

I have been looking hard at a Savage Model 10FP(I believe)26" heavy free floated barrel, with the Choate tactical stock, it isn't the folding stock, but this one...http://www.combatstocks.com/Choate_TACTICAL_Stock_for_Savage_Short_Action_Detachable_Mag_Centerfeed_Only.cfm I like the feel of the gun, it is heavy, but like I said, if the accuracy is there I don't mind at all.

I guess the question is, would the model 10 PC be as accurate???
Although it has a shorter 20" barrel which may be reason enough to go with the former.

I have also been looking at possible ARs,DPMS LR308, custom ARs < = $1100, but wondering if they have the accuracy. I don't reload, that is in part why I want 308, plenty of factory rounds to choose from.
I'm looking for a gun that wont need $500 in gunsmith work to shoot under or at MOA at 600.

Advice is appreciated, I know savages have a reputation for accuracy out of the box and that is why I thought these "higher" end models would be able to prove that to me.
 
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I have 2 10FP's and they are both plenty accurate and not really all that bad to carry one is in 223 and I have carried it a couple of times calling. I don't think you could go wrong with the 308 if you are not a reloader, like you said there is plenty of good 308 ammo available.
 
I have 2 FP10s but in .223 and have no issue walking 3-4 miles with it on my p-dog shooting loops. I have no issues shooting p-dogs to 600 yds if I have a real need to.
 
I guess it may be the model 10FCP, all I could find on their website in a choate stock was the 10fp with the folding choate, but this isn't a folding stock and it has the 26" barrel so I may be talking about a model 10fcp that just has the tactical choate stock vs. their normal HS precision or Mcmillan stock.

This is the gun

The normal model 10fp has a much smaller stock on it.

I can't do all these crazy calibers, I'm not a reloader and paying to have custom ammunition made for me is a bit of a reach.

There is talk of it being a gun made specially for Cabelas...

 
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Originally Posted By: HuntRun the .308 in F/TR and you will be good to go. The Savage will work well. if you shoot f-class at all the get this and use it for both. the others you mentioned will not do as good at f-class as this one
 
I appreciate the advice

That F-class target rifle only holds a single shot, I am not really interested in a single shot firearm, as I will use this gun in the field as well.

Perhaps something like the Rem. model 700 sps tactical aac-sd would be worth looking into???

But that goes back to a 20" barrel, it is a hogue pillar bedded stock and comes threaded for a muzzy break should I decide I need one.
 
the sendero in 25-06 would be number 1. i shot in an f-class match last saturday. some others are a vssf or 5-r in 308. i would want at least 24 inch barrel.
 
That 5-R is an intriguing gun and from what I've seen so far gets outstanding reviews for accuracy.

I'll have to see if I can find it around here to see how it feels.
 
Anyone have experience with the 700P???
I read that "technically, they are only sold to Law Enforcement, however some distributors sell them to civilians."

So getting one may be an issue, but sounds like a shooter nonetheless.
 
There are 700P rifles for sale all over the Internet. There is very little difference in the 700P and the 700SPS-V and tactical. There is some difference, but very little besides the finish and the stock. The same action and the same barrel. There is nothing wrong with a 20" barrel rifle. If you know your load and know your ballistics you'll be fine. The 700P comes with a 26" barrel or atleast they did when I bought mine. The 5R comes with a 24" barrel and is a fine rifle for all purposes. I love mine.
 
Originally Posted By: trevor73402There are 700P rifles for sale all over the Internet. There is very little difference in the 700P and the 700SPS-V and tactical. There is some difference, but very little besides the finish and the stock. The same action and the same barrel. There is nothing wrong with a 20" barrel rifle. If you know your load and know your ballistics you'll be fine. The 700P comes with a 26" barrel or atleast they did when I bought mine. The 5R comes with a 24" barrel and is a fine rifle for all purposes. I love mine.

I've been out reading on these, 5R gets outstanding reviews, so does the 700p, even the 700 sps-v seems to be a .75 MOA rifle with match ammo like the Fed. gold medal.
Then from what I've read on the Savages, the PC is .5-.75MOA along with the model 10fp and 10fcps with many reports of .5MOA accuracy in match grade ammo.

So, does it come down to just close your eyes and throw a dart???

Maybe price... the SPS-v is around $600, 700p seems to be around $950, 5R $1050, Savage PC at $750, the Model 10 with the Choate stock I first referred to comes in at $700 and the model 10FCP with the HS Precision around $1000.
 
"That F-class target rifle only holds a single shot, I am not really interested in a single shot firearm, as I will use this gun in the field as well."

If you want to be competitive in F-class you really need a single shot. Repeaters are just not as accurate on average.

Jack
 
You need to look around more. You can find all 3 of those rifles for less money (new) than what you have listed. A good starting place is always Buds Guns, then move from there.
 
Another one to look at might be the new FN built M70 Tactical.

I saw one chambered in 308 that a young fellow brought to our range print the best groups I've ever witnessed with a factory rifle. That was from 100-500 yrds shooting Federal match ammo.

It spiked my interest in the new M70's enough to fondle a few at a local shop, and I gotta say that the fit and finish was very good on the half dozen that I looked at. The trigger was impressive too, and that's coming from a real trigger snob.

Definitely worth a look see IMO.
Luck
 
Ive heard great things about the new savage f-class rifles but I havnt competed in f-class competition. Only hunter class and rimfire stuff. The t/c warlord has tons of good reveiews and fns have to be good if they are dripping into military supply.
 
I have the funds to get the 5R.

Is that going to be a best bet?? It seems like if there is a rifle that is guaranteed to shoot .5-.6moa this is it, it gets phenomenal reviews.

But I've seen the proof of that savage 10fcp choate tactical shooting sub .5moa groups with multiple reports of the federal gold medal match ammo shooting from .5-.7moa.

The model 700P and 700VS seem to be virtually Identical and get great reports as well, boasting around .5 moa as well...

Thing is, I can't handle a 5r, or a 700p, or the 700vs, but I know I like the feel of that savage 10fcp with the choate tactical stock.

I'm really hoping for some gems of advice.
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I just got the Rem 700 AAC-SD, havent gotten a scope for it yet so load development will have to be after deer season.

I use a 300Win Mag for Fclass. Its a Savage 110 action, Savage 112 barrel. In a Choate Ultimate Sniper stock with a Rifle Basix trigger, EGW 20MOA base, TPS rings, Millett LRS scope. I have $675 in the whole thing and it shoots 1.5" groups at 600yds with 210Gr Bergers.

Ill report back when i get the Rem 700 AAC-SD up and goin. Cant wait to use it in Fclass. That 300wm is a powder hog, takes just over 1 pound of powder to load 100rds.
 


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