First time shooting silencers

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oxnam

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I finally got the opportunity to go out shooting with my cousin who has several suppressors. I really don't remember what kind they were but I believe the were made by HTG and one by TAC 65. We used them on 22lr pistol and rifle, 9mm pistol, and a Remington 308.

First of all, "suppressor" is a better name for them than "silencer". There was nothing silent about any of them. HOWEVER, they were much quieter. The 308 was very comforatble to shoot without hearing protection and recoil was greatly reduced. They were supersonic loads, so not as quiet as they could be. It was refreshing to shoot a pistol (9mm and 22lr) without hearing protection and be able to rattle a bunch of rounds off. The subsonic loads from the a 22 lr was the quietest. I could see a huge benefit when shooting at ground squirrels. The bullet hitting the ground was about as load as the shot. It was pretty cool.

I had always wondered if a silencer would allow multiple long range shots at coyotes without them noticing, but from what I just shot, I don't think that is the case. With subsonic loads and the right conditions (which would include a dumb coyote), I think it might be possible.

They are beneficial enough that I think it will be worth the hassle and cost. One benefit is I could take one .224 caliber silencer and use it on a couple different guns while only having to purchas one stamp and one silencer. I am thinking the 300 Whisper in a bolt gun will be in my future and of course one that will work with 22's and 223's.
 
I got to shoot a Ruger 10/22 that was suppressed. Decided immediately that I had to have one. All you heard was the bolt cycling. They're good on centerfire .22s but awesome on a 22RF.

David
 
Originally Posted By: rustydog32I gotta get me one of these but not worth all of the paperwork and cost!
Yes.....yes they are!
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Originally Posted By: oxnam

I had always wondered if a silencer would allow multiple long range shots at coyotes without them noticing, but from what I just shot, I don't think that is the case. With subsonic loads and the right conditions (which would include a dumb coyote), I think it might be possible.

They are beneficial enough that I think it will be worth the hassle and cost. One benefit is I could take one .224 caliber silencer and use it on a couple different guns while only having to purchas one stamp and one silencer. I am thinking the 300 Whisper in a bolt gun will be in my future and of course one that will work with 22's and 223's.

You will NOT be able to use a .224 suppressor for the 300 whisper you will need a .308 can in order to do that! That is why alot of people buy one .308 can so they can use it on smaller cal. rifles.

On another note I do think multiple coyotes will be a lot easier then you think as the coyotes won't know what just happened. They will be confused at what happened to their buddy and won't have the loud bang that scares them in the first place.
 
Originally Posted By: rustydog32I gotta get me one of these but not worth all of the paperwork and cost!

Cost is about the same as buying gun and same with the paper work only difference is the loooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggg wait!
 
I am planning on two, one for .308 and the other for .224. I am not really sure in you are supposed to shoot 22lr through one designed for .223 Rem because of how dirty the 22lr is. It seems like a lot of 22lr silencers come apart for cleaning but that is not a feature I recall seeing on the 223 silencers.

I think the 300 whisper should work as a good subsonic coyote round. I am, however, concerned that those heavy slow bullets will richochet and skip like crazy. Any thoughts?
 
The nice thing about having a dedicated .223 suppressor is using it on things like a 223, 22-250, 204, etc etc etc. While .308 cans will still work, and the suppression level is still good...they will not be as quiet as a dedicated .223 suppressor CAN be. If you have these kinds of other smaller calibers or plan to get them and use them often, by all means...start saving for 2-3 suppressors. Unless you WANT to spend the extra money on dedicated suppressors for a 6.5 or 6.8, the .30 will do just fine on just about everything from .223-.30.
You should not be using a .223 suppressor for rim fire applications, even though you can for limited rounds. Some places make .223 suppressors that can be taken apart to clean, but in reality, a dirty center fire suppressor works BETTER than a clean one, and you'd have to fire thousands of rounds through a center fire suppressor before it was dirty enough to even need a good soak, let alone a full blown cleaning.

In my future, I have 3 in mind. I already have a .30 cal suppressor that I use on a .243WSSM and will use on anything up to .30 cal. (I just don't have a justifiable need to use a caliber smaller than my .243 other than rim fire)
A 9mm suppressor for my hand gun (and sbr in the future)
A .22lr suppressor for any rimfire rifle rifle/pistol fun.

3 suppressors will tide me over for a LONG time, until I start seriously getting into long range shooting with a .338, in which case, it will be time to get a 4th. 4 should be enough to cover my suppression needs for life.
 
Im not sure if its made soley for rimfire or not, or if its a centerfire one, but we use a Tactical Innovation supressor on our P22's and M&P15-22's at the shoots we do. It is user servicable, so it can be taken apart to clean it. Its pretty slick

Im eyeing one or two myself
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Originally Posted By: oxnamI had always wondered if a silencer would allow multiple long range shots at coyotes without them noticing, but from what I just shot, I don't think that is the case. With subsonic loads and the right conditions (which would include a dumb coyote), I think it might be possible.

for most part that is the case, most coyotes will bolt when they hear that bullet splitting the air, although i do have some very interesting footage of coyotes getting shot at over 20X with suppressed AR's only to have more come to the call within minutes!!! they are worth the paperwork and time, if you have any questions PM me i have shot, SRT, KNIGHTS, YHM, SWR, GEMTECH, SILENCERCO, AAC, ELITE IRON, cans from the 22. up to the Barret 416. titanium to SS, to take apart cans you can clean yourself and hunted with them all... i certainly have my opinions and preferences, but during NOV-MAR, I hunt cats and coyotes with suppressed systems, and from MAR-AUG its steel practice with suppressors, until hunting season... we are fortunate enough in SD to be able to hunt/shoot with a can, ONCE YOU SHOOT WITH A SUPPRESSOR YOU'LL NEVER SHOOT WITHOUT. hope you get one and let us know how you like it!!!
 
Sure do wish the Govt would come out of the Al Capone era mind set and ignore all the misinformation about Suppressors. The hearing loss alone, is justifiable reason for them.
 
Originally Posted By: skinneyOriginally Posted By: oxnamI had always wondered if a silencer would allow multiple long range shots at coyotes without them noticing, but from what I just shot, I don't think that is the case. With subsonic loads and the right conditions (which would include a dumb coyote), I think it might be possible.

for most part that is the case, most coyotes will bolt when they hear that bullet splitting the air, although i do have some very interesting footage of coyotes getting shot at over 20X with suppressed AR's only to have more come to the call within minutes!!! they are worth the paperwork and time, if you have any questions PM me i have shot, SRT, KNIGHTS, YHM, SWR, GEMTECH, SILENCERCO, AAC, ELITE IRON, cans from the 22. up to the Barret 416. titanium to SS, to take apart cans you can clean yourself and hunted with them all... i certainly have my opinions and preferences, but during NOV-MAR, I hunt cats and coyotes with suppressed systems, and from MAR-AUG its steel practice with suppressors, until hunting season... we are fortunate enough in SD to be able to hunt/shoot with a can, ONCE YOU SHOOT WITH A SUPPRESSOR YOU'LL NEVER SHOOT WITHOUT. hope you get one and let us know how you like it!!!

I have called in multiple dogs after shooting the first one with an unsuppressed AR. GA lets you have them but not hunt with them, I hope one day that changes. I still want one anyway!
 
Originally Posted By: StevenWilsonHow does the suppressor attach to the barrel? I assume they screw on? Most are simply thread on models, each with their own thread pattern for different calibers (usually) so you don't try screwing on a .223 suppressor onto a barrel that has been threaded for a .30 cal.
Some have Quick Detach or Fast Attach mounts that thread onto your barrel first, and then the suppressor can quickly be either threaded on with a faster thread pitch, or it can be pinned on with no threads at all.

Typically direct thread on suppressors are more consistently repeatable, however this does depend on the quality of the suppressor.
 
cbass16 ... thanks for the info. So, basically, either way, the barrel muzzle must be threaded. Are they designed for more of a sporter barrel or will they work for a varmint contour?
 
You can use one on pretty much any barrel. I don't know that they are "designed" for anything specifically, but just remember that the heavier the barrel, the less flexing you'll have. You're basically hanging a 20-30 oz weight on the end. Short and fat is much more rigid than long and skinny.

I've seen suppressors on just about kind of barrels though, as long as the POA/POI is repeatable..it really shouldn't matter.
 
Originally Posted By: dmpowderOriginally Posted By: oxnam

I had always wondered if a silencer would allow multiple long range shots at coyotes without them noticing, but from what I just shot, I don't think that is the case. With subsonic loads and the right conditions (which would include a dumb coyote), I think it might be possible.

They are beneficial enough that I think it will be worth the hassle and cost. One benefit is I could take one .224 caliber silencer and use it on a couple different guns while only having to purchas one stamp and one silencer. I am thinking the 300 Whisper in a bolt gun will be in my future and of course one that will work with 22's and 223's.

You will NOT be able to use a .224 suppressor for the 300 whisper you will need a .308 can in order to do that! That is why alot of people buy one .308 can so they can use it on smaller cal. rifles.


You can too us a .224 can on a 300 whisper. But only once
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