For all that's holy help. I'm thinking of buying a taurus.

NdIndy

NdIndy

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I think their semi's are shoddy. I think the cs is a joke. Their best marketing is the judge, which is worthless. I've been vocal on avoiding them for sd purposes. I rate their best, revolvers, at ok.

I haven't been drinking excessively. I've never tried drugs. To the best of my memory I haven't suffered any major head trauma recently. Although I suppose if I had, I wouldn't know it. There's an interesting conundrum.

And I'm still thinking about it.

I'm looking for a pocket pistol since my smallest .40 (kahr pm40) is too big for that purpose, even assuming the new parts fix it's reliability issues.

The size required dictates a .380 since in my professional life a pistol butt visible above the waistband isn't going over real well. And I'm not large enough in the body to easily conceal my SD fav, g23, without a jacket. And its summertime.

Size wise the ruger lcp is perfect, although I'd prefer a larger caliber. Price wise its ok. Then I found it's basically a dupe of a keltec, which is cheaper but same size. But the keltec has no slide lock, which I find odd. Further research shows that neither the keltec nor the ruger locks the slide on an empty mag. And that bothers me. A lot, for a pistol designed specifically for self defense. I could tolerate it in a plinker, even a hunter, but SD is IME too much OMG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh! to count rounds etc while a locked slide is immediate reload.

The only pistol I can find that fits the size requirement, isn't a blow-back action, and has lrho is the taurus tcp.

Suggestions please. Or at least pray for me.




 
Kimber Solo in 9mm. Pocket sized with thumb safety but no hold open on last round. Havent seen a pocket pistol yet with that feature.
 
How about the Ruger LC9? Slightly larger than the LCP,comes in 9MM, slides lock back on the last fired round,very reliable and not to over-priced for the quality. IMO Everything I read about the Ruger was positive with the exception that is has a small bar that pops up on the slide indicating a loaded round. Some shooters didn't care for that. Also, it has a lawyers trigger. The trigger is very smooth, but looooooong trigger pull. Just a thought on an option.
 
Not to beat a dead horse here but I would like to offer to you, for what it's worth, my recent experience with Taurus. I recently purchased a Taurus 650 CIA .357 for my girlfriend. At the first range session the cylinder bound up after 2 shots. I unloaded, reloaded, tried different ammo, and no matter what the cylinder would bind. I phoned Taurus and they refused to send me a call tag. I had to pay $72.02 to have it shipped back to Taurus. When it was returned, it included a "service department invoice" which stated: Problem found- part damaged, Resolution Adjusted. Took it back to the range and it did the exact same thing. Called Taurus and this time they sent a call tag. Gun was returned with invoice stating : Problem found- part damaged, Resolution replaced. I took the gun to the range and when I loaded it the cylinder would not close. I tried several brands of ammo, nothing worked. Upon closer inspection I discovered that the firing pin shroud was protruding enough to prevent a loaded cylinder from closing. I then got my dealer involved. He insisted Taurus send me a new gun. They agreed. After waiting over a month, he called to inquire about the gun. They told him that they couldn't find his dealer info. He asked why they hadn't contacted him. They offered no explanation. BTW he's been selling Taurus guns since the 80's and never had an issue previously. He sent them his info and eventually they sent the gun which I was issued a full credit for when I purchased a S&W. So this brand new gun didn't work correctly and Taurus actually made the problem worse during 2 failed repair attempts which I had to pay $ 72.02 for. I know every manufacturer has lemons. What bothered me the most about Taurus was every step of the way they blatantly were looking for a way to blame me. They asked me if I was shooting reloads, seemed skeptical when I told them I was not, when my dealer was describing the protruding firing pin shroud with them they asked him if he thought I had attempted to service the gun myself, and every person from Taurus that I interacted with was rude, unknowledgeable, and unhelpful. Personally I would never buy another Taurus again given my recent experience. Remember that the "lifetime warranty" does not include shipping. They do issue call tags sometimes, sometimes they do not. If they do not, it is required that the firearm be shipped next day shipping and it is expensive. Their repair work is shoddy. Just my 2 cents.
 
CK,

I have heared nothing but issues with the CIA model. I dont know if it is the design or what ever, not too sure.

As far as CS, I have never had to use them. I own a Tracker 44 mag, a model 445 in 44 spl, and a PT 738

My friend DID have an issue with a Raging Bull. He sent it in, they determined it was a timing issue, fixed and returned it in 10 day in perfect working order. BTW, there was no cost to him, shipping or otherwise.

ALL 3 Taurus I own perform flawlessly. They have never failed to fire or cycle and are accurate. I can easily free hand hit a 20 oz pop bottle at 25 yards 5 out of 5 shots free hand and can do the same at 50 yards off a rest.

I would buy another taurus, if it was needed. I was looking at the Model 94 in 22 lr, just for fun. These are just MY experiances with the company.

I guess for every BAD report, there will be at least equal amount of GOOD reports....
 
Hate to hear of such poor CS. I bought a Taurus .38 maybe 40 years ago for $28 new from a dealer friend..shot it a lot and no problems. Gave it away to another friend who still has it as far as I know.

If what coyote killa experienced is their new CS standard they will not prosper..companies like Ruger will eat their lunch, if not already doing so.
 
How about the fairly new little Sig Auto 380?I don't know much about it except it's high and looks good,with the wood grips.Looks like it has lots of small parts.Looks like it's well made.Think I would like to have one but it is high.The ones I have seen are around 500.
 
I have a taurus PT22 for ten years now and it has never failed. It's been my what I would call my catfishing gun. So it had been put through alot. But it's a 22 and it don't take much to keep them spitting lead.
 
I own 1 Taurus, a 445, but I consider it almost a throw-away and is kept in my vehicle. This was purchased to replace a Charter Bulldog and is in my opinion 700% better then the BD. Please don't get me started on Charter, as I'd own anything instead.

It 445 isn't a bad gun, but I prefer to own a gun that can be repaired in the US not somewhere in South America.

My Glock can be repaired locally so why can't Taurus do that? The 445 doesn't get shot much and I wonder how long it will last. At times I do think of selling it because of the reputation.
 
Originally Posted By: tnshootistHow about the fairly new little Sig Auto 380?I don't know much about it except it's high and looks good,with the wood grips.Looks like it has lots of small parts.Looks like it's well made.

I love mine. Accurate, no issues after 500 rounds, comfortable and lightweight and concealable to a fault, sometimes you forget you have it on....and it does lock back on the last round.

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As for Taurus, I have a 651 that has never given me any trouble. It is my do-all and not worry about the finish etc gun. It was stiff to begin with but snap caps smoothed that out. I like mine and would recomend it.

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Trashcan
DCC
 
I have bought several Taurus firearms over the years and still have them all. Have .22, .38, .357, .44 Spc and .44 Mag revolvers and except for one item that was fixed under warrantee have not had any issues. Lifetime warrantee is hard to beat.

I have one shooting buddy that dislikes Taurus guns (he has never owned even a single one) but cannot give me a good reason as to why except that he heard somewhere that they were junk. Same as I have heard Ford people say about Chevys and vice versa.

I very much enjoy my Taurus firearms and will continue to do so. They have treated me very well over the years.
 
Originally Posted By: JoeBobOutfittersThe Taurus TCP's are a pretty decent gun and a decent buy. We sell more of them than LCP's actually.


And the TCP's are made in the USA.


And the repair department is in FL.
 
I love my Tcp. No problems at all with feeding or fire, accurate(6" groups at 12 yds) and the trigger pull is a lot better than the Keltec or S&W.


Steve
 
Originally Posted By: JoeBobOutfittersThe Taurus TCP's are a pretty decent gun and a decent buy. We sell more of them than LCP's actually.

Hows the ptice in your shop?



I like the baby sigs, price is a touch higher than ibwant tospend though.
 
I have never owned a Taurus auto. I own three Tuarus revolvers and am happy with all three and Very happy with two of them. A fourth, I am still kicking myself for selling. I also own several Sig autos and have tried the Sig P238. I really like the quality of Sig products but the little P238 is just too darn small. Beautiful little guns though. I used to own a Bersa Thunder 380 and should have kept it. If I had the experience I have now, I would still own it. Perhaps not concealable for your needs.

Being a revolver guy, I have to say, nobody ever went wrong with a J-frame Smith.
 


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