Glass quality
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sandy hicks
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WOOOHOOO, cabelas bargain cave online. Zeiss Z5HD 3x15x42 duplex, my favorite, 649. They had 5x25s also.
Ugly betty is gettin new glasses.
Ugly betty is gettin new glasses.
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sandy hicks
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If the glass is unimportant, why not just use plastic or poly? My leupolds hold zero. Why do we pay more for schott and zeiss glass?
Please explain why I just waisted 650 bucks on a zeiss.
Please explain why I just waisted 650 bucks on a zeiss.
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Originally Posted By: liliysdad"Glass Quality" is a subjective issue, and is honestly one of the least important facets of a quality scope.
Not least important. Equal parts IMO durability and glass quality. One without the other makes it an optic I don't care to use too much. If I have 2 rifles that will do the same task, but one has a scope that's bright, clear and crisp and the other is like looking thru a glass of milk (like a few Leupolds I've had over the years), guess which one I pull out of the safe? Really helps in a pdog town where you're looking through it for hours.
Not least important. Equal parts IMO durability and glass quality. One without the other makes it an optic I don't care to use too much. If I have 2 rifles that will do the same task, but one has a scope that's bright, clear and crisp and the other is like looking thru a glass of milk (like a few Leupolds I've had over the years), guess which one I pull out of the safe? Really helps in a pdog town where you're looking through it for hours.
JoeyJ
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Originally Posted By: liliysdad"Glass Quality" is a subjective issue, and is honestly one of the least important facets of a quality scope.
In my limited experience over the past many decades, I've always found the "Alpha Glass" AKA Quality Glass etc - to be the very best of the best on the current market relative to color, clarity, contrast, brightness etc - of course, not everyone's eyes are the same, so people will have different opinions of the various models.
When you pay top-dollar for Alpha Glass, you expect it to last a lifetime and on average, the vast majority do. You might hear of some horror stories of coatings failing from early models with the upgraded version taking care of "the problem" but the company didn't stand behind the "defective" item. Those events are unfortunate but did happen to a few Alpha models. I will say you will probably never hear of Swarovski customer service treating you in that manner.
You do get what you pay for in optics but you can purchase extremely good optics at less than "premium" prices - it all comes down to how much you're willing to spend on optics, when considering what your expectation are from that particular optical item. Most people never get a chance at looking through a $2,500 scope/binocular and a $300/$400 scope/binocular side by side when out in Nature or at a shooting match where that optic is intended to be used. Those that have, KNOW the difference in QUALITY - the only problem then comes down to "In their opinion, do my "needs" demand the difference and/or can I afford it."
In my limited experience over the past many decades, I've always found the "Alpha Glass" AKA Quality Glass etc - to be the very best of the best on the current market relative to color, clarity, contrast, brightness etc - of course, not everyone's eyes are the same, so people will have different opinions of the various models.
When you pay top-dollar for Alpha Glass, you expect it to last a lifetime and on average, the vast majority do. You might hear of some horror stories of coatings failing from early models with the upgraded version taking care of "the problem" but the company didn't stand behind the "defective" item. Those events are unfortunate but did happen to a few Alpha models. I will say you will probably never hear of Swarovski customer service treating you in that manner.
You do get what you pay for in optics but you can purchase extremely good optics at less than "premium" prices - it all comes down to how much you're willing to spend on optics, when considering what your expectation are from that particular optical item. Most people never get a chance at looking through a $2,500 scope/binocular and a $300/$400 scope/binocular side by side when out in Nature or at a shooting match where that optic is intended to be used. Those that have, KNOW the difference in QUALITY - the only problem then comes down to "In their opinion, do my "needs" demand the difference and/or can I afford it."
Originally Posted By: GhostmanOriginally Posted By: liliysdad"Glass Quality" is a subjective issue, and is honestly one of the least important facets of a quality scope.
Laughable. If that were true we'd all be using old coke bottles for scopes
Well, that's an exaggeration and you're missing the point. I've had $200 scopes and $1500 scopes. Can I tell the difference in glass? Absolutely. For MOST purposes, am I unable to accurately aim and shoot with the $200 scope? NO, for most things, the glass in the $200 scope is perfectly serviceable.
Now, the reason I don't buy $200 scopes now that I can afford better has nothing at all to do with the glass. It has to do with the feature set, durability, and repeatability of the turrets.
I appreciate good glass in higher end scopes, but from a practical perspective people make a lot bigger deal out of it than it really is.
Laughable. If that were true we'd all be using old coke bottles for scopes
Well, that's an exaggeration and you're missing the point. I've had $200 scopes and $1500 scopes. Can I tell the difference in glass? Absolutely. For MOST purposes, am I unable to accurately aim and shoot with the $200 scope? NO, for most things, the glass in the $200 scope is perfectly serviceable.
Now, the reason I don't buy $200 scopes now that I can afford better has nothing at all to do with the glass. It has to do with the feature set, durability, and repeatability of the turrets.
I appreciate good glass in higher end scopes, but from a practical perspective people make a lot bigger deal out of it than it really is.