Hey Byron, what eastern states did you hunt in "Calling in the East"?

"The harder I work, the luckier I seem to get!"

That old saying that I posted above reflects my personal views on many things in life, such as career, marriage, raising children, ect. To include my hunting. I usually take a nice mature whitetail buck each year in the miles upon miles of rugged National Forest Ozark timber. Most of the time I do that while still hunting through the timber. I've developed a technique and style that I enjoy and it works well for me. Many guys post pictures in a local sporting goods shop and I do so too. It cracks me up to be in there and some fellow look at my pic's knowing that I hunt public ground in the National Forest and tell me I'm the luckiest guy he knows. I just smile and nod my head, "yeah, that's me - lucky for sure." They don't ask about the time spent in the woods scouting before the hunt, poring over topo maps in the evenings, wearing out boot leather in the timber learning the land and it's critters, time on the firing range, buying the best gear I can afford and prepping it for the hunt, decision making about set-ups, weather, rut phase, food/water sources, other hunters pressure, ect... Typically the first question is, "Where'd ya run into this one at?"

Another example is fishing. If I run into another fisherman on the lake and he's having a good day, I don't ask, "whadcha catch em' on?" I'd rather know the depth the fish was caught on. I'll piece together the rest with that critical information. The lure style and color is less critical than the depth. Active feeding bass aren't usually so picky as to pass any of a half dozen different types of lure thrown to them. FIRST I GOTTA FIND THEM! THE CATCHING IS THE EASIEST PART OF THE EQUATION!!!

Same for calling predators. Typically new callers want to know, "what's the best sound?" "what's the best gun" "what's the best camo" New callers are gear oriented, instead of being worried about WOODSMANSHIP! That latter is what'll get you close to game, not so much the camo, rifle, even the sounds.

Once a long time ago I had a yahoo who was invited into our deer camp by an outer fringe friend. The new guy came with two new flashy Weatherby magnum rifles, scopes as long as the barrels, and all new hunting duds. He was arrogant and a total [beeep] from the beginning. He began to pick on a young fellow in camp. The "dude" loved to talk smack about the young guys ancient Winchester M94 .30-30. The old rifle was silver from the blueing being worn off, the stock had many a nick or mark and was devoid of all finish. All earned honestly through the years being carried in the timber from this young fellows family. As the new guy became more annoying I quietly made the statement that I'd bet $100.00 on the young hunter making meat on opening morning - and the dude wouldn't. He quickly jumped all over that and puffed up really angry. Short story, the next morning just after daylight I heard the .30-30 pop twice and later as I drug my deer off the mountain ridge to the meat pole in camp I saw a nice fat forhorn hanging, and, the young hunter stirring the fire. He was tagged out. The dude failed to tag all week and welched on the bet. The kid grew up in the timber and knew how to hunt. The old M94 was an extension of him, ammo wasn't wasted and meat mattered. He was and still is a hunter. Dude blows smoke around town about his elk trip to the western mountains every year, funny thing is - he never brings in a pic to hang in the sporting goods store.

WOODSMANSHIP matters and it takes long hard hours afield observing, trying and failing, and studying every encounter, successful or failing, to earn the title of a "woodsman." THE DECISION MAKING AND WORK THAT TOOK PLACE BEFORE THE SHOT ARE WHAT MATTER THE MOST IMHO!

Now, this isn't directed toward any one person or situation on this post. Please, don't take personal offense. I offer this ramble as my opinion and for thought to the crowd in general. A critical personal examination honestly does us all a little good from time to time. Yes, that certainly includes me! Personally I don't think eastern coyotes are different to call than western coyotes - ALL OTHER THINGS EQUAL. Some eastern states certainly have a lower population than some western states and that must be factored in. Terrain and human influence must be factored in. However, I think if you get next to an eastern coyote and set-up correctly, you'll call him all things being equal. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IMHO, IS WHAT I MAKE OF MY SITUATION!
 
Greenside,


FWIW, on [recon]izing their territory, who, what, when, where & why. I'm over 50yrs old. My Dad & his fox/coyote hunting buddies. Started taking me since, back in 1964 hunting Red Fox & 1968 with coyote, I'm still going.

Some of you guys, that have been having a mutual discussion with me. Appear to assume [by your demeanor, anyway, lecture...not discussion]. That a coyote's habits, territory, bahavior, ect, ect... are all new to me. Be informed there not.

I've always been open to being a host. To other coyote hunters, of whom I got to know. I've taken many, to hunt/call on the farms I hunt.

Anytime any of you wish to hunt the land I hunt. Are welcome to have at 'er this fall or winter. Let me know, if interested. I have plenty of time off all yr long.
 
GC
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GC, very nicely written. Makes me want to go out and spend more time in the woods studying things and writing down details on topo maps. Thanks.
 
Jay,
Those pictures R about as dumb as the music in your video, but like I said before I love the footage and the knowledge is good stuff. The only thing about the footage, the coyotes all look like they are pups. Did they all have their puppy teeth? I think U guys out there in the west R a tad jealous. Most girls interviewed say size really does matter /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. Have a great day Jay!
 
cbgc
Hey now. I paid good money for that music. That and the fabulous dancing hunters are the best part of the DVD. LOL

I think we aged one of the puppies at 9 years and a couple others at 3 months. It all averages out in the long run.

I'm always jealous of the those bigger eastern whitetail, gobblers, black bear and fishing but not so much that I'd leave antelope, bigger elk, bighorn, bear, lion, enormous public access and illegal aliens. Oh! And did I mention a coyote behind every bush?
 
Jay,
U are all right and I encourage every coyote hunter to spend a couple bucks and buy your video. The coyotes in your video R small and ugly but after watching it, I thanked god for putting me in PA. In all honesty the video is a must buy, very unique and it made me watch coyotes in a different way, but it should come with ear plugs. If U spent more than a nickel on the tunes U got robbed! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
Hey! Can we get back to critiquing my video? You know, the one that no one has seen yet. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif

GC,
That was very well said. Thanks. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

Byron /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
well I am com now . and can see I don’t have the smarts to get what I am saying across

here my thought on were the east begins for coyotes.
at the Mississippi .
why you may ask I think this ?
Well most western states you can walk from one to the other without crossing a body of water.
So I feel that the coyotes migration over the years has been stunted by bodies of water keeping them from getting here in the east from out west.
The Mississippi from the west and there are many bodies of water to keep them from migrating down from the north.

All I ever sad is that are coyotes are different because of there numbers and the resin I gave above it why I think are numbers are low.

And the numbers being low is why I think they act and live different here compared to the west or far north. You can go to main and hunt coyotes but they get thinner in numbers the farther you come south why (water)

So all I am say is I have hunted them east, west, north, & south and here in PA I have to hunt them with a much different style be of there numbers .


But what I get in replies is guys that never been here telling me tactics on killing them when that was not part of the equation or conversation that I was having with Byron.

My opinion is that I have hunted them all over the USA And this is what I feel about eastern coyotes. But then the conversation go’s to how I should be doing it.

Read back the posts , you will see were I tried to get out off this conversation .
And to look back in the nest day to see a guy from ky with more studies and techniques.

Come on man , is like they just will not believe I know what the hell I am doing I gave my credentials what more is need before can just discuses this thread with out a lesion in coyote hunting.
And I never told you guys my middle name is George woodsmanship Ackley so let talk about what makes them different not how to kill them.

How I wish I paid attention in school I would be so much better at this
 
George, I'm not picking on you really. I'm just amusing myself due to boredom mostly.

We don't have big Rivers like the Colorado out west but I did see a coyote jump the Continental Divide once and read a human interest story about a family of coyotes leaving St Louis across the bridge headed east.

Byron's right. I got to say it's probably the bst video I've never seen. Worthy of Canine's Film Festival I'm sure.

Is there going to be a pre-release like in Star Wars?
 
Byron
You know I will like it .
I never sad I wouldn't.

We as in I, and you, were taking about the title not the contents .

I thought this was all over 3 pages ago.

I look at it this way pal you must be that good to do every thing you do and have to do it with a foxpro. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

George Ackley
calling with a LOUDMOUTH
 
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Byron,

I'm in to it. I'll be buying your video. I technically live about 60 miles due west of the Mississippi and I consider my coyotes eastern (unless I drive 100 miles west into North Dakota where they are western models) and I can hardly wait to see what I need to do to kill my Minnesnowta coyotes. It'll probably screw me all up though when I head to Bismarck.

I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't.

I'm sure it will be great no matter where you filmed it.

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I've sure been enjoying this thread.

Jay,

You've got too much time on your hands. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Randy
 
Randy. Yep. I am totally bored. Too hot to be outside after around 7:30.

Has anyone tried the PurexMaster?
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It's 115 here today and part of the picture melted.

Computers are a dangerous thing. I think I hear eBay calling me.
 
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