How many animals go to heaven?
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Originally Posted By: BJJ223243Kimber, I am an electrical engineer that deals with Physicists on a daily basis.
These guys think a big bang happened and the universe was created. How many explosions have you seen create order? After the explosion, did the remains of the explosion spontaneously create life while in a predictable orbit that never stops?
It is beyond absurd what some people believe in their mind to kill God.
The wisdom of this world is not the wisdom of God.
1Cor 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Aww an engineer then, by trade, an engineer must cover all of his basis to check to see if they are indeed correct with their assumptions of the situation. Therefore, you have to cover all of the other 9,999 gods and what their books of magic spells says, demands, and states. Most religions believed and even demanded human sacrifice. Just let that sink in in 21st century terms. A person has to torture another person, (that they don't even know) to death, to get rid of their 'supposed' sins. Just think of the complete example of what immorality that clearly is, and then turn around and say: 'Well, we finally tortured him to death! And now we are free from our supposed sin!' Just think how quick a person would be locked up today in the funny farm for performing such a inhumane, barbaric act as this. But if you are a christen its just 'hey man, thats how we roll!'
I use to do things and not think about what I was doing or who I was supporting at the time. That is when I left the RCC for good.
Now, think in terms of all of the other religions and what all of their creeds call for. It is a very interesting dive into history, and religions are one of my favorite subjects.
So, I guess we could say that any coyote with the mange is a worthless and guilty sinners. Defined by an all loving and knowing god or godz.
Sam harris pointed out that when a new building was built, it was thought only prudent to pacify the local deities by burying children alive beneath its foundations. ( This is how faith sometimes operates without structural engineers). Many sacrificed virgins to ward off floods. In India, infants were ritually fed to the sharks at the mouth of the Ganges river.
These guys think a big bang happened and the universe was created. How many explosions have you seen create order? After the explosion, did the remains of the explosion spontaneously create life while in a predictable orbit that never stops?
It is beyond absurd what some people believe in their mind to kill God.
The wisdom of this world is not the wisdom of God.
1Cor 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Aww an engineer then, by trade, an engineer must cover all of his basis to check to see if they are indeed correct with their assumptions of the situation. Therefore, you have to cover all of the other 9,999 gods and what their books of magic spells says, demands, and states. Most religions believed and even demanded human sacrifice. Just let that sink in in 21st century terms. A person has to torture another person, (that they don't even know) to death, to get rid of their 'supposed' sins. Just think of the complete example of what immorality that clearly is, and then turn around and say: 'Well, we finally tortured him to death! And now we are free from our supposed sin!' Just think how quick a person would be locked up today in the funny farm for performing such a inhumane, barbaric act as this. But if you are a christen its just 'hey man, thats how we roll!'
I use to do things and not think about what I was doing or who I was supporting at the time. That is when I left the RCC for good.
Now, think in terms of all of the other religions and what all of their creeds call for. It is a very interesting dive into history, and religions are one of my favorite subjects.
So, I guess we could say that any coyote with the mange is a worthless and guilty sinners. Defined by an all loving and knowing god or godz.
Sam harris pointed out that when a new building was built, it was thought only prudent to pacify the local deities by burying children alive beneath its foundations. ( This is how faith sometimes operates without structural engineers). Many sacrificed virgins to ward off floods. In India, infants were ritually fed to the sharks at the mouth of the Ganges river.
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Originally Posted By: crapshootOriginally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: ThreewolvesBack to the question. Crapshoot is right all dogs do go to heaven.
If there is a heaven, there will most likely be a lot of dogs there, and very few people.
I still like you anyway.
Hey, what’s not to like?
Hope you and your family have a great Christmas.
If there is a heaven, there will most likely be a lot of dogs there, and very few people.
I still like you anyway.
Hey, what’s not to like?
Hope you and your family have a great Christmas.
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BJJ is right in how humans get to heaven. Only one way and that's through Jesus Christ. Humans have souls and animals don't so no need for salvation of animals. That being said, man was created in God's image so if we enjoy animals it's a fair assumption to say God also enjoys the animals He created. I wouldn't go so far as to say there will be hunting in heaven but I do think we will enjoy the friendship of animals. What a lot of people don't think about, heaven isn't the old movie version of everyone sitting on clouds and playing the harp. We'll have things to do and some of that may involve taking care of some animals.
243Kimber, this is my last post on the subject. One thing you will probably agree with - this is your decision. I am sorry you had to endure the Roman Catholic Church. It is wrong on almost every aspect of Christianity. It is a wicked man made religion.
I already told you that those other gods are demons.
Jesus Christ died for your sins and invites you to accept his gift of eternal life. I hope you can humble yourself and admit that you could be wrong about what you think you know about God. Because you are wrong and it is going to cost you your soul.
Satan is calling you in. And, you are on a dead run to the call.
I already told you that those other gods are demons.
Jesus Christ died for your sins and invites you to accept his gift of eternal life. I hope you can humble yourself and admit that you could be wrong about what you think you know about God. Because you are wrong and it is going to cost you your soul.
Satan is calling you in. And, you are on a dead run to the call.
Originally Posted By: BJJ223243Kimber, this is my last post on the subject. One thing you will probably agree with - this is your decision. I am sorry you had to endure the Roman Catholic Church. It is wrong on almost every aspect of Christianity. It is a wicked man made religion.
You have chosen a good time to bow out of the discussion that you started by injecting your proselytizing into a simple topic that you hijacked.
Whether you like it or not, the Roman Catholic Church was the original source of whatever Protestant religion that you currently subscribe to as your special one.
Jesus was born, lived, and died as a Jew. Paul was the founder of Christianity. Do a little reading on Constantine and the Council of Nicea.
And while you are researching, look up “apologetics” and you’ll find scripture that’ll tell you that you need to be able to defend your faith. I can give you the book, chapter, and verse if you can’t find it.
If you’ll go back and look you’ll see that there was a great deal of discussion in the Church forum on what we are talking about right now. It accomplished nothing other than getting some long-term PM members banned and temporary suspensions for others.
So you’re gonna find the majority of the members replying on this topic are most likely going to be on your side, and 243K and a few others, including myself, will be on the other side of the discussion.
Some of us think hanging an innocent man on a cross and torturing him to death as a sacrifice for the sins of the world makes as much sense as throwing a goat in a volcano so the women in our tribe will be fertile and we will have rain on the crops so we won’t starve to death.
So the bottom line is you have absolutely nothing to support your position except your Bible, and every other one of the hundreds of religions and thousands of denominations have their books and their “scriptures” to support their positions.
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You have chosen a good time to bow out of the discussion that you started by injecting your proselytizing into a simple topic that you hijacked.
Whether you like it or not, the Roman Catholic Church was the original source of whatever Protestant religion that you currently subscribe to as your special one.
Jesus was born, lived, and died as a Jew. Paul was the founder of Christianity. Do a little reading on Constantine and the Council of Nicea.
And while you are researching, look up “apologetics” and you’ll find scripture that’ll tell you that you need to be able to defend your faith. I can give you the book, chapter, and verse if you can’t find it.
If you’ll go back and look you’ll see that there was a great deal of discussion in the Church forum on what we are talking about right now. It accomplished nothing other than getting some long-term PM members banned and temporary suspensions for others.
So you’re gonna find the majority of the members replying on this topic are most likely going to be on your side, and 243K and a few others, including myself, will be on the other side of the discussion.
Some of us think hanging an innocent man on a cross and torturing him to death as a sacrifice for the sins of the world makes as much sense as throwing a goat in a volcano so the women in our tribe will be fertile and we will have rain on the crops so we won’t starve to death.
So the bottom line is you have absolutely nothing to support your position except your Bible, and every other one of the hundreds of religions and thousands of denominations have their books and their “scriptures” to support their positions.
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Okay. I’ll come back in. The Bible is all I need as my evidence. It is the eyewitness testimony of dozens of men who had an experience with the living God. That same book demonstrates it’s authority by it’s ability to tell the end from the beginning. The life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ was foretold in the Old Testament and became historical fact in the New Testament. The corrupt Catholic Church is nothing but the tradition of men masquerading as the laws of God. The Holy Bible stands in opposition to nearly every one of its false teachings.
Your hatred of God is obvious. I have been around long enough to recognize a reprobate when I come across one. Funny you would have an atheist like Carl Sagan in your sig line. You claim to like hard truth. Here it is. You both will enter the same damnation.
“For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.”
1 Cor 1:21 KJV
Your hatred of God is obvious. I have been around long enough to recognize a reprobate when I come across one. Funny you would have an atheist like Carl Sagan in your sig line. You claim to like hard truth. Here it is. You both will enter the same damnation.
“For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.”
1 Cor 1:21 KJV
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You are wasting your time arguing about this. If you go through all the countless man made religions and their writings you will find unlimited fouls to cry about. A lot of people hold resentment toward religion from experience in their past, many are very smart and can quote scripture better than the layman. But in the end their belief in an absence of God is based on faults found in religions.
Why don’t they answer this question;
Originally Posted By: BJJ223How many explosions have you seen create order? After the explosion, did the remains of the explosion spontaneously create life while in a predictable orbit that never stops?
Sorry I do not have any scripture to throw up in an attempt to get you to believe...
Oh, and I do believe after I die I will get to have my dogs back
Why don’t they answer this question;
Originally Posted By: BJJ223How many explosions have you seen create order? After the explosion, did the remains of the explosion spontaneously create life while in a predictable orbit that never stops?
Sorry I do not have any scripture to throw up in an attempt to get you to believe...
Oh, and I do believe after I die I will get to have my dogs back
Yesterday was December 21st. The shortest day of the year. There is a consolation of stars known as the cross. Ancients didn't have HD Tv's to look at. But they did have the stars to look at. This constellation seemly stops on the 21st of December every year. It is lined up with the sun. (Spelled SUN). Now, the ancients declared that the Sun, it died on the cross, and (was seemingly) and it was down for 3 days. Then it rose again. (It started to move in the opposite direction) This signaled the end of the cold, and the lack of crops. Now, with the Sun moving in the other direction, food aplenty will be just on the horizon so to speak.
So, when the religious magic books of magic spells say that The SON of God, He Died on the cross, and was down for 3 days, and rose again into the heavens, this is what they were talking about. All religions build off of the one that came before them. it's really interesting stuff, actually. Some people,e take their books of magic spells way to seriously.
So yeah. I think coyotes, after they die go where we all go to. To heaven, where Kate Upton is the bartender, and the drinks are for free!
So, when the religious magic books of magic spells say that The SON of God, He Died on the cross, and was down for 3 days, and rose again into the heavens, this is what they were talking about. All religions build off of the one that came before them. it's really interesting stuff, actually. Some people,e take their books of magic spells way to seriously.
So yeah. I think coyotes, after they die go where we all go to. To heaven, where Kate Upton is the bartender, and the drinks are for free!
Originally Posted By: 243kimber Yesterday was December 21st. The shortest day of the year. There is a consolation of stars known as the cross. Ancients didn't have HD Tv's to look at. But they did have the stars to look at. This constellation seemly stops on the 21st of December every year. It is lined up with the sun. (Spelled SUN). Now, the ancients declared that the Sun, it died on the cross, and (was seemingly) and it was down for 3 days. Then it rose again. (It started to move in the opposite direction) This signaled the end of the cold, and the lack of crops. Now, with the Sun moving in the other direction, food aplenty will be just on the horizon so to speak.
So, when the religious magic books of magic spells say that The SON of God, He Died on the cross, and was down for 3 days, and rose again into the heavens, this is what they were talking about. All religions build off of the one that came before them. it's really interesting stuff, actually. Some people,e take their books of magic spells way to seriously.
So yeah. I think coyotes, after they die go where we all go to. To heaven, where Kate Upton is the bartender, and the drinks are for free!
God wrote is plan of salvation in his creation. And, many are too wise in their own eyes to see it.
Psalms 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
When you stand before God at the White Throne judgement, he will judge you according to your works.
John 6:28-29 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
You had the chance to accept forgiveness through his Son who died for your sins. But, you rejected him. Therefore, he will honor your choice and reject you.
Bad choice.
So, when the religious magic books of magic spells say that The SON of God, He Died on the cross, and was down for 3 days, and rose again into the heavens, this is what they were talking about. All religions build off of the one that came before them. it's really interesting stuff, actually. Some people,e take their books of magic spells way to seriously.
So yeah. I think coyotes, after they die go where we all go to. To heaven, where Kate Upton is the bartender, and the drinks are for free!
God wrote is plan of salvation in his creation. And, many are too wise in their own eyes to see it.
Psalms 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
When you stand before God at the White Throne judgement, he will judge you according to your works.
John 6:28-29 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
You had the chance to accept forgiveness through his Son who died for your sins. But, you rejected him. Therefore, he will honor your choice and reject you.
Bad choice.
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steve garrett
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there has been lots of times I have missed and I come off the scope and think uhh what in the world happened. it was like a bullet didn't actually come out of the gun. I am actually convinced there are times in certain situations coyotes that aren't meant to die at that time. thought about it a little bit over the years. everyone has a miss, but sometimes the shot felt so good the range close enough, that I don't see how it was possible I could have missed. as to if they go to heaven, I dunno, I think if we want them to, yeah. but I do believe that sometimes they aren't supposed to die for whatever reason.
Originally Posted By: BJJ223Originally Posted By: 243kimber Yesterday was December 21st. The shortest day of the year. There is a consolation of stars known as the cross. Ancients didn't have HD Tv's to look at. But they did have the stars to look at. This constellation seemly stops on the 21st of December every year. It is lined up with the sun. (Spelled SUN). Now, the ancients declared that the Sun, it died on the cross, and (was seemingly) and it was down for 3 days. Then it rose again. (It started to move in the opposite direction) This signaled the end of the cold, and the lack of crops. Now, with the Sun moving in the other direction, food aplenty will be just on the horizon so to speak.
So, when the religious magic books of magic spells say that The SON of God, He Died on the cross, and was down for 3 days, and rose again into the heavens, this is what they were talking about. All religions build off of the one that came before them. it's really interesting stuff, actually. Some people,e take their books of magic spells way to seriously.
So yeah. I think coyotes, after they die go where we all go to. To heaven, where Kate Upton is the bartender, and the drinks are for free!
God wrote is plan of salvation in his creation. And, many are too wise in their own eyes to see it.
Psalms 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
When you stand before God at the White Throne judgement, he will judge you according to your works.
John 6:28-29 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
You had the chance to accept forgiveness through his Son who died for your sins. But, you rejected him. Therefore, he will honor your choice and reject you.
Bad choice.
I thought this discussion was over, but since Admin has allowed it to continue....
BJJ223,
do you know that the earth is over 4 billion years old?
Do you know that there have been thousands of different religions since man, of one form or another, has existed on the earth?
Do you know that there have been many instances of gods having relationships with mortals, and children resulting from those relationships, and many instances of miraculous resurrections after death, including at least a dozen or so in your bible?
What is your denomination, and how do you separate it from the Catholic faith, since they were the original Christian faith?
How can you assert your faith over all of the Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, and the other faiths who are just as certain of their beliefs?
Just a few questions that should be very simple for you.
I hope you know that I am not being argumentative in any way.
I am asking these questions to make sure that you are asserting that you have a relationship with the one true god and religion in the entire 4 billion year history of this earth, and that relationship will allow you an eternity in a paradise, and any other belief contrary to yours will ensure an eternity of misery and suffering for billions of people throughout those billions of years before your religion came into existence?
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So, when the religious magic books of magic spells say that The SON of God, He Died on the cross, and was down for 3 days, and rose again into the heavens, this is what they were talking about. All religions build off of the one that came before them. it's really interesting stuff, actually. Some people,e take their books of magic spells way to seriously.
So yeah. I think coyotes, after they die go where we all go to. To heaven, where Kate Upton is the bartender, and the drinks are for free!
God wrote is plan of salvation in his creation. And, many are too wise in their own eyes to see it.
Psalms 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
When you stand before God at the White Throne judgement, he will judge you according to your works.
John 6:28-29 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
You had the chance to accept forgiveness through his Son who died for your sins. But, you rejected him. Therefore, he will honor your choice and reject you.
Bad choice.
I thought this discussion was over, but since Admin has allowed it to continue....
BJJ223,
do you know that the earth is over 4 billion years old?
Do you know that there have been thousands of different religions since man, of one form or another, has existed on the earth?
Do you know that there have been many instances of gods having relationships with mortals, and children resulting from those relationships, and many instances of miraculous resurrections after death, including at least a dozen or so in your bible?
What is your denomination, and how do you separate it from the Catholic faith, since they were the original Christian faith?
How can you assert your faith over all of the Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, and the other faiths who are just as certain of their beliefs?
Just a few questions that should be very simple for you.
I hope you know that I am not being argumentative in any way.
I am asking these questions to make sure that you are asserting that you have a relationship with the one true god and religion in the entire 4 billion year history of this earth, and that relationship will allow you an eternity in a paradise, and any other belief contrary to yours will ensure an eternity of misery and suffering for billions of people throughout those billions of years before your religion came into existence?
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I’ll say this. After learning what the boys and girls do in PRS, I can say that I was kidding myself thinking I could make the shots when I missed. In PRS, they use bags. A lot of bags for a lot of support. They use fancy triggers. High $$ triggers. I haven’t blasted a coyote yet with all of the bags, Gucci trigger, and all of the other stuff that is new to my system. I am 100% more solid after the pull than o ever was w/o all of the PRS stuff.
So like a lot of things, when somebody doesn’t understand 100% of what’s going on, (good or bad), they often attribute it to the great Ju-Ju at the bottom of the sea. No one really knows what happens after death so they make up fairly tales to comfort them so the thought doesn’t drive them crazy. Some people have too much time, energy, and $$$ invested into their great Ju-Ju on top of the mountain to change their mind, no matter what evidence to the contrary. So in their world, all coyotes must go to heaven, because that’s the way they have always thought.
So like a lot of things, when somebody doesn’t understand 100% of what’s going on, (good or bad), they often attribute it to the great Ju-Ju at the bottom of the sea. No one really knows what happens after death so they make up fairly tales to comfort them so the thought doesn’t drive them crazy. Some people have too much time, energy, and $$$ invested into their great Ju-Ju on top of the mountain to change their mind, no matter what evidence to the contrary. So in their world, all coyotes must go to heaven, because that’s the way they have always thought.
Originally Posted By: BJJ223
Psalms 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
When you stand before God at the White Throne judgement, he will judge you according to your works.
John 6:28-29 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
Bad choice.
Ahhhh yes, now we’re making some progress.
Works-based salvation!
Jehovah Witness, Mormon, Church of God?
Most of the faith-based religions see the works-based religions as nothing but cults.
Bad choice.
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Psalms 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
When you stand before God at the White Throne judgement, he will judge you according to your works.
John 6:28-29 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
Bad choice.
Ahhhh yes, now we’re making some progress.
Works-based salvation!
Jehovah Witness, Mormon, Church of God?
Most of the faith-based religions see the works-based religions as nothing but cults.
Bad choice.
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