crapshoot, you may be impacted by the shutdowns in CA. Those have nothing to do with Iran & have no impact on us in the SE states. But it does impact western ones, I know AZ is hard hit from them
Iranian Uprising
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crapshoot
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Probably right. All i do know is that prices here WERE manageable and mostly stable till all this started in Iran and has steadily increased.
Glad im not a trucker... especially in the west. Price of fuel goes up, so does the cost of everything they are hauling.
Widow maker 223
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I know someone that delivers fuel in Michigan. He fueled his personal diesel at the terminal the other day. He got 19 GAL. was around $87 total. $10 of that was MI excise tax, another $5 was some other taxes, then sales tax. The total without taxes was $60 some bucks.
The gasoline pipeline that runs from NC to Texas is shutdown, a work crew poked a hole in it yesterday. The BP refinery in Whiting, IN has reduced production due to striking workers. The fuel at the beginning of last month was being gouged, none of that had anything to do with the war and other BS going on..
IDK what the issue is in Houston, but yesterday Shell was $4.28 for regular. BI it was around $3.69 & Texas International Terminals 45,000 b/cd refinery in Galveston is the largest refinery in the US. It's amazing that gasoline/fuel jumped immediately at the very threat of hostilities in Iran and I predict it will drop off very slowly long after the straight is open (probably after November 
). Seems like a lot more than supply and demand at work to me.
). Seems like a lot more than supply and demand at work to me.
Sgt_Mike
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If you a common Man can come to this conclusion.
I wonder why the intellectuals whom have all this vast knowledge supposedly. Can't come to this?
And they wonder why we as common people scoff and dismiss their sayings, and reasoning.
It’s not that “intellectuals” can’t see it—it’s that calling it out has consequences. This isn’t complicated. It’s power, timing, and access. When Trump drops erratic announcements on Iran that move the market, and it always seems perfectly timed, people notice—they just don’t want to say it straight. The timing isn’t random either—major moves, talk of strikes, sudden shifts—all conveniently lining up with market closes or low-liquidity windows.
Because once you call it what it looks like—market manipulation with insider trading—you’re pointing at people with real power. That’s why the common man pays the price, still pretending it’s a coincidence, while the rich get richer. From the outside, it looks obvious, and everyone else is just staying quiet while it keeps happening.
Exactly, think about it—there’s zero tactical or PSYOP advantage in telling the world Iran “wants to negotiate” or is “asking for a ceasefire.” If anything, that makes you look weak. And it gets worse—because Iran has straight up denied those claims publicly, which just adds to the confusion and mixed messaging.
So what’s the point of saying it? It’s not helping pressure them—it’s just noise. Unless you actually believe they’re begging to negotiate… which, yeah—lol.
I no longer trust Don...., ops I mean politicians...
Sgt_Mike
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Really ??? I mean Really????I no longer trust Don...., ops I mean politicians...
(Yes I was joking around with you)
LMAO yeah the road to perdition is paved with the words " Trust Me" ...... No words of opposition for that view point (yours Jeremy, as well as some others) from me.
Some times it strictly boils down to the lesser of two evils.. or to some it's the devil I know vs the devil I don't.
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Foxpro.223
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Foxpro.223
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I no longer trust Don...., ops I mean politicians...
I had a gut feeling this is what was going to happen shortley after he won the election and started appointing a bunch of memebers of the foreign interventionist crowd to his cabinets when it started to become clear we were going to drift off course and away from the America first agendas he was instrumental about during his camapign.
Now, here we are going down that road again facing an undeclared preemptive war where the goalposts will keep moving every few weeks to keep us embroiled in something that will probably turn into a long drawn out quagmire with very little to no overall benefit for the United States or the American people in the long run, cost the lives of military personnel and will continue to increse higher levels of insurmountable national debt. We're there now.
The politicians keep doubling down on the same policies that are sinking our country financially from within.
I think they are and have been working to sink the United States financially as that writing has been on the wall for a long time. Globalist policies of sending our economic engines or our industry base abroad throughout the world making serious economic recovery efforts very difficult while printing non-stop paper money/inflating our money, constantly increasing the debt ceiling, preempting war, allowing the US to be overrun by the foreign world through open border policies and welfare programs, while giving vast sums of money away to foreign countires under the lie and guise of "foreign aid" or rather foreign welfare...passing spending bill after spending bill in the Congress. This is exatcly how a countries collapse from within. History doesn't lie about that.
I hope I am completely wrong here.
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Littel flashback
The devil is in the details. They are comparing numbers, not context—that’s why it sounds convincing until you actually think about it. We sanctioned Russian energy to punish them in 2022… and now we’re fine with their oil flowing again because of a crisis tied to a conflict we inserted ourselves into.
That’s not strategy—it’s reversal under pressure. The goal was to choke off the Russian war machine, and now we’re reopening the exact revenue stream that funds it.
And it doesn’t stop there—we’re suddenly tolerating more oil moving out of Iran too, all in attempt to keeping the market from breaking. So now the countries we were trying to economically isolate are the same ones helping stabilize the system we disrupted. You can’t call that consistent policy. That’s improvising consequences in real time and hoping nobody notices.
Widow maker 223
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Widow maker 223
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It is some genius planning
I get where you’re coming from, and honestly that gut feeling you had is what a lot of people are starting to wrestle with now.
Here’s the part people don’t want to say out loud—Trump doesn’t break the pattern, he fits it. Just packaged differently. At the end of the day, he’s not driven by principle—he’s driven by how he’s perceived. He wants to be seen as strong, decisive, the guy who acts. And that ego pulls him right into the same playbook he ran against.
So yeah, what you’re describing—drifting into another undeclared conflict, goalposts moving, long-term cost stacking up—that’s not some shocking betrayal of the system… it is the system. And he’s operating inside it just like the rest. The difference is people expected him to resist it. Instead, he bends to it when the pressure’s on, then sells it like it was the plan all along.
You’re right to hope you’re wrong—but what you’re seeing isn’t new. It’s just wearing a different face this time., But I Pray I am wrong too…