Kansas illegal hunters!!!!!!

ksyotehuntr

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To start this post off, I was sell a tactical shotgun on armslist two days ago. I plainly stated that the post would be deleted when gun was sold. It did in a few hours so the post was deleted. Anyways I had a guy text me this evening wanting to know if I still had the shotgun for sale. I responded with "Is it still on there"! He came back and said no but a buddy told him about it. To make a long story short he said that he wanted it for coyote hunting. Well the gun was a Mossberg Maverick 88 with a 20" barrel. A tactical/riot gun. I told him that he didn't know anything about guns or yote huntin. He said that they run them down in trucks and that it was easier shooting them out of the truck window. Well I know in the state of Kansas it is illegal to shoot anything from the window of your vehicle unless you have a disability/handicap permit. He got made at me saying that I was being an a--h---. Who is the a--h---? Thats why it is getting more and more exspensive to hunt in our wonderful state. What do you think?
 
Unfortunately there are jerks like this everywhere.It's in every state.Don't you just love the guys that grow big b---s when they're on the phone but when you offer to meet them they never show up.
 
Im not here to start any trouble but as a lifetime kansas resident and hunter it says right in the kdwp book and website coyotes are the only animal allowed to be hunted out of a vehicle and the use of cb radios. We run them every year and have for 15+ years now.
 

If it's legal and something you like to do, then I say go for it. What's floats one's boat may not float another. That's what's great about our country, we have the ability to choose, pursuit of happiness, right!
 
Gambler2jake, I know a true hunter doesn't run them down and shoot them out of there truck window with a sawed off shotgun! Well I wouldn't anyway. I know the truck hunters around here aren't welcome by hunters because they see a yote and go after them whether they can hunt the land or not. Free roamers are what we call them and we call them in all the time. There is no season to run yotes with dogs but you can't shoot them from the truck. That is in the kdwp book also.
 
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If he wanted to buy it for that id of sold it. Dont try and talk someone out of buying something your trying to sell. Thats like a car salesman saying the car that hes showing you is junk.

~Bryan
 
The gun was already sold to a different guy. But yeah that [beeep] me off just like the guys that drive around with their Foxpros hanging out the window!
 
Do you know that this guy is one of those guys that trespass? Everyone hunts different for sure. I like to call them a much or more than anyone but I'm sure a lot of folks shoot coyotes if they catch them out in a field wether they call them in or not is that right or wrong? I personally think it would be kind of hard to hit a coyote out a truck window at 40mph. We have enough people fitting against us as it is.
 
I know for sure its not legal to shoot from a moving vehicle! And dmpowder thanks I completly agree with you. Makes me soo darn mad. Here I try and do everything posible to be legal and you have the other 10 percent messing it up for us!
 
Originally Posted By: ksyotehuntrGambler2jake, I know a true hunter doesn't run them down and shoot them out of there truck window with a sawed off shotgun! Well I wouldn't anyway. I know the truck hunters around here aren't welcome by hunters because they see a yote and go after them whether they can hunt the land or not. Free roamers are what we call them and we call them in all the time. There is a season to run yotes with dogs but you can't shoot them. That is in the kdwp book also.

there is a season to run coyotes with dogs but you can't shoot them.... what book are you readin? coyotes are not a game animal, no closed season,all that is needed is a hunting lic.
 
That way of hunting coyotes has been used for years and
years in Kansas and Nebraska. Don't get many coyotes
that way. Usually just good old boys out letting off
steam, breaking trucks and sometimes their bodies. I've
heard of a few people that have been killed doing that.
 
Originally Posted By: ksyotehuntrI know for sure its not legal to shoot from a moving vehicle!

According to KAR 115-5-1 (c)(7) The use of motor vehicles for taking coyotes shall be permitted while hunting coyotes.

While you may feel that the activity is not ethical, it is LEGAL to do so. Otherwise KDWP would not have allowed the activity to occur for decades.
 
Huh.
Be kind of scary to be out calling near roads when billy bob and his buddy's are having a beer shooting at a coyote that so happens to be in the field your in.
I sure wouldn't own a flambeau coyote decoy..lol
Be careful and learn to army crawl real good!
 
overwatcher correct... one should becareful in any setup. there have been deaths, one a couple yrs ago a guy was shooting at a flock of geese with a high powered rifle(illegal) and hit a young man in a pit blind. these were decoys not geese, he said he was shooting at a coyote.
 
Originally Posted By: hydrology_joeOriginally Posted By: ksyotehuntrI know for sure its not legal to shoot from a moving vehicle!

According to KAR 115-5-1 (c)(7) The use of motor vehicles for taking coyotes shall be permitted while hunting coyotes.

While you may feel that the activity is not ethical, it is LEGAL to do so. Otherwise KDWP would not have allowed the activity to occur for decades.

Served. End of story. And besides the guy was just checking on the gun. If that's all it takes to make you mad and upset and to start preaching then I strongly suggest some self help. And just how do you know he didn't know anything about coyote hunting? Ok so he dosent call. There "are" other methods. IMO I do beleive you overstepped your bounds. You plainly stated that he said he was going to use the shotgun for coyotes. You don't know this guy from Adam. Before you even knew of his method of hunting you personally attacked him telling him he didn't know crap about it. O beleive you were i'n the wrong my friend. No personal offense meant, just stating the obvious.

 
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OK, this may cost me a call sale or two, but as someone with the experience, I'm going to make a statement.

I understand that there are those who feel that hunting from trucks is unethical.
And, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
However, the method of hunting coyotes, and ONLY coyotes, from a moving vehicle...then shooting them with a shotgun...is legal in the state of Kansas. Always has been.
The exception, is that you may NOT shoot while on a state highway.
If you are in a pasture, ect....and have permission to be on said property...then you are not breaking any laws.
Just the same as if you hunt from a truck, but use greyhounds (or other sight hounds) to chase down/catch the coyote.

There are plenty of people who deem that method as unethical, too.
And a lot of greyhound hunters think their way is the right way...but think that using shotguns, or using calls is unethical.

It's all legal in this state.
And whether it's ethical or not, depends on the environment you were raised in, as well as your definition of ethics.
None of which I will ever disagree about. As I said, we are all entitled to our own opinions.


Background, for the newer members, and why I feel I have the experience to discuss this calmly, rationally, & logically:

I am a 3rd generation coyote hunter.
My Grandpa started hunting with greyhounds in the 1940s, using a modified 4-door sedan. He hunted until the late 1960s.
His son...my Dad...started hunting at Grandpa's side as a small child. By the time he got out of high school in 1957, Dad was running his own truck & dogs. He did that until the late 1970s.
I started hunting coyotes at my Dad's side in 1972, at age 8.
By 1980, we had switched from using dogs, to using a shotgun. An Ithaca Model 37 8-shot, Cyl. bore, riot gun, to be exact. Using #4 buckshot.
We hunted that way for 15+ years, until 1995...when my Dad decided he was getting to old to "pound pastures".
So, in December 1995, I bought my 1st predator call & have been calling coyotes as my method ever since.

To this day, my dad still thinks that using calls is not the way to hunt coyotes.
I'll never go back to chasing them from trucks.
But, I also do not criticize those who do. I would be a hypocrite if I did.
All predator hunters & trappers need to quit in-fighting over methods used. It does nothing but give the anti-hunting crowd ammunition to take to our legislatures [sp] in order to impliment more & more limitations on our hunting & gun rights.
I hope I haven't offended or upset anyone here, as that was not my intention.
 
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