Kim Payne's Tig for sale,,,,,

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Tig is a 6 year old cut male. Bear, lion and bobcat dog. He has been raised his whole life by a guy who makes his living hunting and knows how to make a dog. Tig earns his keep year round in Utah and New Mexico. If you are looking for a fancy story or pictures you wont get one from Kim. He doesn't even carry a camera around but this dog has seen alot of game. Kim will show him in the woods but no trial. In you are interested in buying Tig give Kim a call. Tig is priced @ $6,000.00 FIRM!!! No tire kickers PLEASE!!!

Kim Payne 435 979 8276

Thanks for looking, jason
 
LOL....me too Devin. Of course that would be all he'd be doin is sittin in my yard....like the rest of the trash i have, goin to waste.
 
Originally Posted By: poserTig is a 6 year old cut male. Bear, lion and bobcat dog. He has been raised his whole life by a guy who makes his living hunting and knows how to make a dog. Tig earns his keep year round in Utah and New Mexico. If you are looking for a fancy story or pictures you wont get one from Kim. He doesn't even carry a camera around but this dog has seen alot of game. Kim will show him in the woods but no trial. In you are interested in buying Tig give Kim a call. Tig is priced @ $6,000.00 FIRM!!! No tire kickers PLEASE!!!

Kim Payne 435 979 8276

Thanks for looking, jason
Wow! 6 g's and wont touch a yote!!! What a deal.
 
Heck if that dog was mine, you wouldn't be able to touch it for 8 Grand.
I guess to the guy that doesn't know anything about hounds,that would be alot of money. If your time is worth anything and you sell a finished hound for $6,000, you just lost about $10,000.
 
Originally Posted By: Tim7581Sure is proud ain't he.

Tim

No, he isn't proud....one of the most humble guys you will find and as i posted you wont hear a fancy story to make yourself feel good about the dog. He also wont be on any of these sites....He's too busy actually "HUNTING" you know....what most of us like to do when we get the time he does to put food on the table. There is a big difference in us wannabees and those who do it to make a living.

No one is beggin anyone to buy this dog. I just though i would give someone the opportunity to buy this dog if they were in the market. But then again he is probably too much dog for most people who are on these sites.

Best of luck, jason
 


No one is beggin anyone to buy this dog. I just though i would give someone the opportunity to buy this dog if they were in the market. But then again he is probably too much dog for most people who are on these sites.

Best of luck, jason [/quote]

why would you sell him? this man makes his living hunting these dogs. i agree (i don't know the man) but i'm sure running big game he hunts close to 300+ day a yr.again you are correct he is prob to much dog for most but i bet he has a hole in him some where that Mr.payne doesn't like. otherwise he wouldn't be forsale.
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Hole? I bet you and 5 other guys, hunting for a month, with just this dog, you couldn't find that "hole". No dog is perfect, but I know "Tig" is way more dog than any I'm feeding.

That's not how Kim rolls. He's a houndsman. He makes his living with his dogs. He sells dogs as he finishes them because he has more coming along. If someone was smart(I am not), they could buy this dog and instantly become a great houndsman.

Imagine that.

Take care.
 
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why would you sell him? this man makes his living hunting these dogs. i agree (i don't know the man) but i'm sure running big game he hunts close to 300+ day a yr.again you are correct he is prob to much dog for most but i bet he has a hole in him some where that Mr.payne doesn't like. otherwise he wouldn't be forsale.
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Now out of all people I thought you would understand. Kim makes his living hunting dogs. That means part of his living is traing dogs and planning on selling a few of them. That is a huge part of a houndsmans living. An honest houndsman like Kim culls the junk dogs and keeps the good ones ( that is why he has such a good name for himself). I am sure if you call Kim he will sell you any dog he has. You see he is a HOUNDSMAN and he can make more just as good. The line of dogs he has produce these type of dogs and the type of man he is he will make more and that is how he provides for his family.
Now you want to find holes? Why don't you put up the money, buy the dog and then report to us how the dog is junk and didn't catch you any bear, lion and bobcat?
No dog is perfect ( unless you have some?) and if he had the perfect dog I am sure you could not touch it for $6,000.
I can't understand why you guys would come on here and start to bad mouth a guy and a dog he is trying to sell when you know nothing of what you are talking about.???? You don't hunt biggame but yet you think you know this man and his dog.
For you that are in the market for a dog, I can tell you from experience, Kim is a man of his word and is as honest as the day is long. I have bought a dog from Kim Payne before and he told me everything about the dog and I felt she was a better dog than what he told me. He talked her down more than he talked her up. Yes I would buy another from him. I would buy this dog if I had the money, without even looking at it or talking to Kim. Thats how much I respect and trust the Man.
 
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If I wasn't short right now because of replacing horses, I WOULD BUY THE DOG. Kims reputation is flawless, I believe he has culled better dogs than I OWN.
 
I seriously don't think that you can really put a price on a mans time and effort into building a dog like that. 6 grand is pretty low considering all of the time, effort and miles and all of the animals that the dog has seen. That dog has seen more animals in one year than I probly will my entire life.

Houndsman, and good ones at that, are always trying to help someone out. Especially those that have had some dinks in their midst and are about to be turned off for good. I doubt that it is about the money, but when you have a good line of dogs that you are raising and have had good results with that, the breeding stands up for itself.
 
devin i understand completly.where do you see in my post badmouthing this man? i don't believe i did."he makes his living with these dogs" if mr. payne was a carpenter and made his living with a hammer would he sell his hammer?maybe if the handle had a crack in it. or if he was fixin a broken window 10 ft off the ground and had a 4ft ladder would he sell the ladder for a taller one? yes.yes.yes. i meant no disrespect towards the man,but which does he make more money doing, guiding hunters for a once in a lifetime trophy or breed dogs? both apparently. i think a proven dog would be worth its weight in gold, thatd why i didn't understand why one would part with such a animal.i still think there is something,too cold of a nose, semi/silent,growly under the tree with other dogs,ect... i don't know, don't really care. as you stated he doesn't brag up his dogs(maybe even talks them down alittle more than talking them up)
 
Em, Maybe I can help "clarify". Anyone that makes a living off hunting and dogs, works his a$$ of, and is trying to feed his family. None that I know of (I KNOW A BUNCH)are getting "rich". A percentage of yearly income comes from selling dogs.The best dogs bring the most money, when you have to feed the family, you sell what is worth the most,keep hunting the "lesser" dogs, sell them when they are "super", and the cycle starts over.
I personally have never had a hound that compares with a Payne dog. Maybe someday I will.
I have though sold decoy dogs,(to guys on this board) that are better than what I KEPT FOR MYSELF.
It is not fair to criticize a man for selling a dog.
Many dog men have 12 to 30 dogs at any time, there are always dogs for sale. To say there is something wrong with the dog he is selling, without even knowing Kim, is at the least, very disrespectful.
 
You did put him down, saying there is something wrong with the dog or he wouldn't be selling it. Maybe that is how it works for you but I know Kim doesn't opperate that way and neither do I.
With me ( and I know Kim is the same way) I run close to 30 hounds all summer on bear. During the winter months when I run lion and bobcat, I don't need half of those dogs( and it would be foolish of me to feed them). But during the summer I run the hide off them, all of them. I only keep the cream of the crop and the ones that are preforming and holding their own. In the fall after I have finished my bear hunting I will sell off alot of dogs. At that time I will sell you anything I have because, There are no culls, no tree fighters, no trash. Those dogs have been culled and will not be passed on to others. Yes I will have my favorites and they will cost you more. There will be older dogs, younger dogs, started dogs and finished dogs. You can take your pick, because I know that what ever you take I can get it done just as good next year.
We both have pups upcoming that will take the place of the ones we sell.
It is not like the carpenter, we do not have one hammer. We have a whole bunch of hammers and they are all in perfect working order.
You are right we would not sell all of them but in order to provide for our families we make a little extra by selling off some of our crafts that we have made, just like the carpenter does. Would you tell the carpenter, "there must be something wrong with the furniture you are selling or you wouldn't be selling it"?
The dogs are a product of our work. And yes it is very offencive that you would say there is something wrong with it or he wouldn't be selling it.
If you really didn't care then why would you jump on this post and put down a man and his dog?
 
Emeraldterriers1, LOL.....this is getting funny. Now we are comparing dogs to carpenters tools. Okay.....lets "TRY" to put this into perspective for those that cannot understand.

If you were a carpenter and only had one hammer and one ladder you would be an idiot for selling them...I agree.

But if you were a carpenter and had 15 hammers and every year you were building more and more hammers why would you keep one that was say 6 years old and gonna depreciate every year you kept it. The other 14 hammers can pound nails just as good and are younger. Sure you might wish you had that hammer on a tough day at work but there are others that will take its place.

Its his living and some of him income is made by selling good dogs. Agree or disagree that what he does and has made a dang good living doing it.

I begin to understand more and more why "REAL" hunters dont get on these sites....they have to defend themselves because all the experts cant fathom what or how they do what they do.

Keep livin the dream, jason
 
duane@ssu,that makes more sence, devin read the last half of my post....again

"if your time is worth anything and you sell a finished hound for $6000.00,you just lost $10,000.00"
now why in the he!! would someone do that? if this is your practice so be it, but i hope your family doesn't go hungry.
sounds like that dog belongs on a mountain.... not in someone else's kennel.jmo
 
Originally Posted By: poserEmeraldterriers1, LOL.....this is getting funny.

I begin to understand more and more why "REAL" hunters dont get on these sites....they have to defend themselves because all the experts cant fathom what or how they do what they do.

Keep livin the dream, jason

lol, i'm with ya most of your post makes good sence, are "you" a real hunter? your on here quite often....

keep livin the dream thru Kim Payne, bob
 


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