Originally Posted By: liliysdadOriginally Posted By: 6mmI don't like the new ones.... to each their own.
Out of curiosity, why not?
For me, it boils down to the turrets. I despise non matching turrets and reticles, and have zero use for BDC anything. With the new scopes, they are mil/mil, with the BDC as an afterthought. I ignore the yardage indicators on the turret, and use the mil markings. I keep meaning to contact Leupold for a mil only turret, just keep forgetting.
I don't like the lack of indexing marks on the newer MOD Mark AR series. After 5 MILs, you're around 1 revolution.... with no indicator. Seems pretty easy to get lost when your up a rev (or two) in the heat of the moment.... did I spin it back to zero or not?
I also really like the .5 MOA clicks in the old version. You had 30 MOA per revolution... so you were never lost... you can't get around twice. I also think the half-MOA clicks are very durable and repeatable. I've broken two Leupolds with the standard 1/4" click target turrets.... but never a Mark AR.
Having a BDC turret is far more practical than most folks give credit. It's the same thing as a drop chart... it's just easier to access and use. I still have a chart that gives me dope on variables.... but when a coyote stops at 462, I just spin it a click past the "4.5" and easy-squeezy... never even taking my eye off the dog. Bet you can't do that with your 6-column drop/wind/alt chart taped to your stock... and then spinning it to the 6.75 MOA mark on the turret. I might miss a 1/2 MOA high or low.... but that's more than good enough when there's no time to spare. Try it... I bet you'll like it... but only if you build your own.
It's nice to have a reticle that matches the turret... but that's mostly for correction on second shots. I shoot Mil/Mil.... and the MOAR reticle in my Nightforce.... but I don't mind the MOA/Mil combo in older Mark AR. Where else can you get all those features for under $400?