--- Long Range 30-06 Build?---

blopez50

blopez50

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What do you guys think?

I'm trying to plan out my next build. I have quite a few hunting rifles and have shot quite a bit at 300-400 yards but have never really done much beyond that. I really want to see what the whole 800-1000 yard thing is about. I think in the next couple years I'll have more time to mess with it so I want to get something put together. Here is my plan.

I'm thinking of having a 30-06 built/chambered with the intention to shoot the 208 Amax. I'd put a heavy 28"-30" barrel on it and set it in a McMillian of some flavor. I'm going to use a Big Horn or Surgeon action.

I know there are lot's of cartridges that will do well at 1000 but this is one that I haven't read much about. I love te -06 case and that 208 looks pretty impressive on paper. Any downsides?
 
Compare the the ballistics of the 280 Rem with the Berger 180 Grain Hybrid.
Nothing wrong with the 06, I just prefer the 7mm for LR in wind.
 
Originally Posted By: xphunterCompare the the ballistics of the 280 Rem with the Berger 180 Grain Hybrid.
Nothing wrong with the 06, I just prefer the 7mm for LR in wind.

Rather sound advice.

Also, maybe twist it fast enough to shoot the 7mm 195 Berger...
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I have a 8T Krieger with that 195 in mind
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Originally Posted By: pahntr760Originally Posted By: xphunterCompare the the ballistics of the 280 Rem with the Berger 180 Grain Hybrid.
Nothing wrong with the 06, I just prefer the 7mm for LR in wind.

Rather sound advice.

Also, maybe twist it fast enough to shoot the 7mm 195 Berger...
.791 BC
 
worked mighty fine for carlos hathcock.

The 30-06 is a great round with more than enough horse power for 1000yrds and even capable of the 1500+ yard range when loaded right. Yes there are many rounds that will work for your intended use, including my favorite the Lapua 6.5x47mm. But the venerable 30-06 just has a prestige about it and it just plain works.

I SAY GO FOR IT.
 
Originally Posted By: blopez50

I'm thinking of having a 30-06 built/chambered with the intention to shoot the 208 Amax. I'd put a heavy 28"-30" barrel on it and set it in a McMillian of some flavor. I'm going to use a Big Horn or Surgeon action.



If you want a LR 30 caliber, just go ahead and do a .300 Win Mag.
It's a long action like the 06, the bullets are the same, the brass isn't hard to find, and it takes just a little more powder.
your barrel, stock, and action choices are perfect.
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I've got three 6.5's and one 6, and my next rifle will be a "big" gun in .300 WM on a Surgeon action.
 
300Rum with the 230gr hybrids. They kick like a mule, but there fun to shoot, pretty sure the shooter takes more of a hit than the target. I put a muzzle brake on mine and it brought it down to 300wm level.
 
If you like the 06 than go with it. There is nothing wrong with this cartridge as it has worked for a lot of years. Always wanted one myself though I don't presently have one.

Choose a magnum and you'll be changing the bolt, why do that.
 
Originally Posted By: joed

Choose a magnum and you'll be changing the bolt, why do that.

If he's useing a custom action that he does not have, why would he have to change the bolt ?
 
Originally Posted By: xphunterCompare the the ballistics of the 280 Rem with the Berger 180 Grain Hybrid.
Nothing wrong with the 06, I just prefer the 7mm for LR in wind.


I agree or also take a look at the 280ai. The 7mm bullet is hard to beat at long ranges.
 
Originally Posted By: Tim NeitzkeOriginally Posted By: joed

Choose a magnum and you'll be changing the bolt, why do that.

If he's using a custom action that he does not have, why would he have to change the bolt ? JOED?? As much as i like the 30-06 and have several. have read Germans use of the 30-06 and have shot literally thousands of 30-06 in matches- the 300 win mag is a better choice because you can load it to 30-06 power. or you can load it all the way up . read the book AMERICAN SNIPER. the rifle used most - 300 win mag.
 
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The old 06 is one of those that is more than adequate at just about everything, but there will always be something better for most guys, as it is an old standard cartridge. Ballistically speaking, they are correct, of course, and if you want to wring as much long-range accuracy and advantage out of your build, then there probably are better cartridges by some measurable amount. But, with the 06, you will be able to find factory ammo, and reloading components and dies anywhere, anytime, and as cheaply as anywhere. For pushing the accuracy game, $$ rule.

Interesting article there by a very successful and experienced shooter.
 
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Originally Posted By: Tim NeitzkeOriginally Posted By: joed

Choose a magnum and you'll be changing the bolt, why do that.

If he's useing a custom action that he does not have, why would he have to change the bolt ?

Missed the custom action part. So used to everyone using something they already have.
 
Originally Posted By: RONINFLAGOriginally Posted By: Tim NeitzkeOriginally Posted By: joed

Choose a magnum and you'll be changing the bolt, why do that.

If he's using a custom action that he does not have, why would he have to change the bolt ? JOED?? As much as i like the 30-06 and have several. have read Germans use of the 30-06 and have shot literally thousands of 30-06 in matches- the 300 win mag is a better choice because you can load it to 30-06 power. or you can load it all the way up . read the book AMERICAN SNIPER. the rifle used most - 300 win mag.

I'm a fan of the .300 mags and have a .300 H&H instead of a .30-06. It's not something I shoot alot though.
 
I am also building a 30-06 for long range work as well.
I realize that there are several other caliber/bullet choices that my be better suited for this in one way or another but the old stand by 30-06 happens to my personal favorite caliber and you really don't see too many at the long range shoots.
Decent brass along with other components are fairly common place and keeping a good bullet supersonic at 1,000 is not an issue at all and I have read where some guy's are using the 06 with the heavier pills well beyond that distance.
I say if you like the 30-06 as I do then go for it and don't worry about any of the rest of it....and keep 'em in the black.
 
Thanks for the input guys! I appreciate it and have/will continue to process it all!

This is the article that really got me thinking about it...

http://riflemansjournal.blogspot.com/2012/05/cartridges-accuracy-secrets-of-30-06.html


As for the other cartridges, I've been thinking really long and hard about the 280AI. It is an awesome round for sure. I'll continue to stew on that.

I know the 300WM would be a better performer but I just don't want to step up. I've thought about it and then say, "well if I'm going up to a WM, why not go up to a RUM?" If I was going to shoot anything other than paper, I would definitely step up (and probably will someday)....


ONE MORE QUESTION:
What are your thoughts on throating this thing? I don't have a lot of knowledge on the topic but it sure seems like a longer throat would be beneficial so save some case space. I just don't know how much throat? I'm assuming the reamer will be special order.
 
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Originally Posted By: blopez50ONE MORE QUESTION:
What are your thoughts on throating this thing? I don't have a lot of knowledge on the topic but it sure seems like a longer throat would be beneficial so save some case space. I just don't know how much throat? I'm assuming the reamer will be special order.

Not necessarily; you could chamber it with a standard reamer and then use a neck and throat reamer to cut the throat. For long range accuracy, I would recommend custom reamer, however. That way you know the throat is concentric with the chamber. I would also seriously consider a tight neck, and use neck-turned brass.
 
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