New predator rifle form Mossberg

Frankly, it looks "heavy" to me for a "predator rifle".

Way too many times gun makers and ammo companies confuse what a good "varmint" rifle should be with what a good "predator" rifle should be.
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It will kill coyotes fine. I like the AR mag. feature. But, the stock design looks more suited to shooting sage rats from a field bench.

If they were to lighten it up, and put a stock design on it that handles well, and is light, along with a barrel configuration that is lighter, then they would have a good "predator" rifle, in my opinion.
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I tend to agree with Rockinbbar about the specs on it...The "Medium Bull Barrel" and stock, IMHO, tends to place it in the Varmint class, for longer range shooting... While the .223 in a 1/9 twist barrel will allow a wide range of bullet use, it still is not as flat shooting as one of the .20 calibers...

Like others, I like the ability to use AR magazines, but would be tempted to re-barrel it for use with 50gr Bergers in a .20 Practical caliber....Then it would be better suited for 'sniping' Coyotes at longer ranges..
 
I would buy it for a .204 maybe. Stick a barrel nut on it. Or just wait for Savage to start using the AICS mags. Was looking at the rem and using the JAG conversion for mini-14 mags, but this might be what is needed for those who don't have the freedom to use semi-autos.
 
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Not only the rifles tend to inherit that confusion, but the ammo does too.

An ultra-high velocity cartridge with extremely explosive characteristics may do well indeed in vaporizing prarie dogs, but severely lack in the penetration you need to kill coyotes.
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I know that marketing being what it is today, the "Cool" calibers, and the "Ultra Suave Super Speed Sexy" cartridges (that make the ammo makers twice as much money as a standard box of ammo), may not be the best choice for killing coyotes or other medium to large predators at all.

But, hey! They are Fast, and they are Sexy!
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And some of the rifles are inexpensive, and they have Way Cool Camo! And they have the word "Predator" attached in some way to them....
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But the ammo blows huge "splash holes" in lots of cases in coyotes. And the rifle doesn't handle well in a stand where you have three coyotes coming in hard and fast....Not to mention the fact that you feel like you have been beat with the rifle after lugging it to 15 stands in a day's time....
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I think Mosseberg should stick to shotguns. I think this mossberg is my least favorite predator rifle so far. Followed my the Ruger Predator, goodness that stock is ugly on that ruger.

Plus the price tag on that thing, geez. I can think of several other rifles that are cheaper and would work probbaly 10x better. C527, Tikka T3, Rem m7, 90% of all savages, the list goes on.
 
It all depends on one's style of coyote hunting. I could definitely make that rifle work if it were chambered in a 22-250 or 243. However the barrel twist would have to be for heavier bullets and rifle manufacturer's almost never do that. That stock design is perfect for longer shots particularly from a prone position. From a sitting position, for close shots, I imagine it will be a little cumbersome, but probably no more than most AR-15's. From prone though, that stock combined with the medium weight barrel, should be flat out deadly between 300 to 500 or more yards, depending on the shooters ability, and the accuracy of the rifle. In Mossberg's defense they are not touting it as a "predator" rifle. It's titled as a varmint rifle and it should be perfect for that, but it certainly could do double duty. If I lived were most my shots were under 100 yards I would not be very interested in that rifle. However, I live in wide open prairie country as do a lot of mid western hunters. Many shots are 150 to 300 yards or more. That rifle would definitely be useful if they offer it in more than just .223.
 
It kinda looks like the rifle is marketed as "predator" to me....(from the first sentence of the description of the link in the OP's first post.)

DIRECT FROM MOSSBERG

North Haven, CT – O.F. Mossberg & Sons, Inc. announces a new line of dedicated varmint and predator bolt-action rifles, the MVP (Mossberg Varmint Predator) Series, based on the overwhelming success of the Mossberg 4×4™ centerfire rifle.

I agree that in some areas the shots are longer than in others on predators. In that sense, it fits the bill.
 
That rifle doesn't appeal to me. I like my Model 7 for fox and my D-tech in .243 wssm for everything else. Heavy within reason is OK by me for the simple reason that I seem to be able to hold a heavier gun (read D-tech w/ fluted 22 in. bull barrel) steadier on sticks than I can light guns. The m7 can be a bit of a challenge for me at times. That said, I wouldn't want to lug a savage LRPV around either. That's definitely a bench varminter. I guess it's all down to what you're comfortable with. If the Mossberg appeals to you, go check one out- remember; our opinions are exactly that- opinions. If you buy it, like it, and most importantly-kill a whole bunch of stuff with it, who cares. But if you're fishing for opinions, believe me, you'll get 'em.
 
I like it, but its not perfect yet, Im sure more calibers, aftermarket stocks ect will come, if this one sells.
 
Being able to use AR mags in a bolt action? Why would ya want to? What/where would be the need? It just don't make me all giddy and goo goo eyed.

If it's any mag other than a short 5 rounder, it's gonna stick out and be nothing but a PIA. But I don't like long thingies stickin out the bottom of my AR's either. Weird, I know.
 
Originally Posted By: doggin coyotesBeing able to use AR mags in a bolt action? Why would ya want to? What/where would be the need? It just don't make me all giddy and goo goo eyed.

If it's any mag other than a short 5 rounder, it's gonna stick out and be nothing but a PIA. But I don't like long thingies stickin out the bottom of my AR's either. Weird, I know.

Exactly why I don't use the 30 rounders in my AR.
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Originally Posted By: ZWhy do you need an AR magazine on a bolt action rifle? Seems like just marketing to me.

Sounds stupid to me but if you notice the mag capacity it does say 10 rounds, Maybe thats why?
 
I like it, try converting a 700, costly. 10-20rd mags would be useful in my book. easier to manage ammo and I can miss allot more without reloading.
 


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