Randy Anderson

WOW!,I never knew how sensitive predator hunters could be.

Guys I titled this post with Randy's name simply to get your attention. Everyone seems to relate to Randy in some way. I must say, it worked. It worked too good. Now let me set a few things straight.
I like Randy. It was his Verminator video that got me started in predator call'en. If I was Randy's neighbor he would probably be sick of me bugging him to go call'en all the time. I have nothing against Randy or his call'en ability. Having said that, I do believe the Randy, being who he is, can take a call that is some what less than perfect and make it sound good with very little effort. Unfortunately I don't think that is the case for every predator hunter out there. I personally have a lot of trouble making his Hot Dog perform the way he makes it perform in the videos. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I WANT TO BASH RANDY.
If you can make his Hot dog call in coyotes then my hat is off to you. I will have to stick with the desert howler. For me, the desert howler is easy and performs flawlessly and maybe I just like wood better than plastic, hey whatever. Don't get yourselfs so worked up over this. Find the call that works for you and go use it.
Randy, if you are reading this I'm truely sory.
 
Just a word of advise to all those who believe in the HOT DOG. You might want to go buy it while you can because there is a pending law suite agianst Primos for patent infringment of the Dan Thompson Desert Howler. Infact Primos has had alot of trouble with this issue on many items they sell.
Yes ADCcoyote, there is infact a patent on all of Dan Thompsons calls. Again, I would not mention or suggest patent infringement unless I had knowledge of an existing patent.
 
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Just a word of advise to all those who believe in the HOT DOG. You might want to go buy it while you can because there is a pending law suite agianst Primos for patent infringment of the Dan Thompson Desert Howler



Any link to this information?
 
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As far as any infringment on anyone, unless Dan thompson has a patent on his call anyone can copy the design......



Don't recall saying anything about patents or lawsuits /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif, just he might be a tad miffed.

But, in light of recent information, you were saying? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Hot Dog is a great caller IMO. Randy Anderson's videos are enjoyable to watch and I have seen many which were not. Open reed calls require alot of practice to master. I wonder if those who discount them so quickly have given them the practice they deserve?
As for the Red Desert howler I can see why Dan Thompson might think his call was copied. But they are slightly different. Randy continues to sell Dan Thompson's calls on his Web site. Imitation is often the best form of flattery IMO. MH /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
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Montana Hunter,
Like I said before if you can make the Hot Dog work then my hat is off to you. I agree with you on the videos. Randy's videos are very informative and a kick to watch.
 
hidestretcher:
verry well put i agree 100% anny man that can make a living doing what he loves has my support. as for primos calls i feal that they are good calls and work well.
 
Randy Anderson's dvds also got me into predator hunting. I actually went to the local hunting stroe aiming to buy a hot dog and a lil dog but the store didnt carry them. So I bought a Johhny Stewart ch-1 howler and a J.S. distress call. I watched Randy's dvds over and over practicing my calling. His dvds helped me more than the audio tape that came with my howler. My friend at work has a hot dog and he can make it sound good but he also said that the JS calls we're easier to use than the Primos calls. I dont have any of the Primos predator calls so im not going to judge them but I am extremly happy with my J.S calls. Anyone else calling with any Johnny Stewart calls?
 
I have both howlers in question. (Good howlers and easy to use but I prefer the Lil' Dog over both.) All I can say is if Dan Thompson is filing a lawsuit he is probably wasting his money. Yes, there are a few similarities like a removable mouthpiece and reed shape. Other than that I think they have much more differences than similarities. And what about Thompson copying the Weems call? Tell me he isn't throwing the Weems name around to boost sales. I do find it amusing that Primos claims the Hotdog is "the loudest howler available". LOL!

As far as the vids go, I've enjoyed all of Randy's videos. Yes, the last one dabbled a little deeper in product pushing than the others. That didn't annoy me nearly as much as listening to Will Primos, who obviously knows less than nothing about coyote calling, babbling on the porch next to Randy. Keeping him out of the vid would be a big improvement. But hey, that's what fast-forward is for. LOL! Still a very good calling vid.

Good hunting.
 
I got the Hot Dog a while back and I've found that it takes some real practice to get it to sound right. I still don't have it down good yet like Randy. Yes I have the DVD. I'm having trouble making howls that sound consistant, it's like it takes a whole lot more breath than other howlers. But I can make good pup squeals with ease.

As for private land, the ONLY private ranch I've ever hunting resulted in a charging coyote after just a few minutes on my first stand. On public land in the same area, it's WAY more difficult to get a response. Folks with private land have a HUGE advantage and pretty much any call/technique has a good chance of working with ease.
 
I agree with curt, Dan's wasting money so different are the two calls, otherwise someone could sue because they made an open reed call with removable barrell, yes anyone can claim suit against anyone, but to win and show a basic design copy is far from what you have in these two calls.
I think Bill Austin came up with the idea of using imasculator bands to hold reeds, why not have his wife sue all those using these bands to affix reeds to calls? Just crazy that people would sue over this I guess? Onward!!!!
 
It all depends on what Mr. Thompson has in his patent. If it is the mouthpeice design, then that is what it is. If Primos copied that design, there could be a case or settlement. Plain and simple. It really does none of us any good to speculate as to what they are arguing over. Let them hash it out and it will sort itself out!

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All I can say is Will better watch that claim to the loudest howler made LOL. I have played with them and was not impressed. I prefer for JS ch1 for simplicity and sound.

I am surprised Randy took the deal with Primos. After all Primos is tryin to use him and could in the end damage his reputation as a caller and hunter.

When you look at the Primos line up over the last several years you will see a lot of changes. This tells me the primos calls are not what the public wants and Primos is looking for the next best thing.Primos is using Randy to promote a product that so far hasn't won the aproval of the hunting public. Primos has been making predator calls for a number of years. When you check back over the post's in these forums you will rarely find Primos calls mentioned. Only with the new video has the name gotten much mention.Jimmie
 
I prefer hand made calls. There is a different feeling you get when you call in a coyote from a call you made yourself. I guess its like a sense of pride or something knowing that you called that kritter not Primos or Randy or Sceery, or whoever.
 
I've been laid up the past four days or so and have watched A LOT of hunting on TV. I have all of Randy's, all of Byron's, all of Dave Afflek's, Vern Howey's, some Primos' and a few miscellaneous calling tapes. Randy's tapes have very good footage as do the rest of them. I enjoy them all and each caller/filmmaker adds his own nuances to the production which make it unique.

As to the calls however....he's putting out a product. Buy it, try it then keep or pitch it. The trick is the first one...buy it. Create enough buzz about a product so that someone will buy it. I have a few calls I've bought and not used very much cause I have trouble blowing it correctly. He's a businessman and he's tryng to take it to the next level. Primos is currently the 900 pound gorilla of the calling world and has (IMHO) surpassed Mossy Oak and Realtree as producers of the best videos. I prefer the reality of their video work.....not 100 different splices and cuts. I like that.

I howl with a Tally-Ho. Living in the east, I'm not trying to blast my calls into the next state...too many trees here. The hand calls I own that get used are the Tally-HO, the Verminator tweety (the body could be bigger...hard to use with gloves), Circe cottontail, Haydel's Governmnet cottontail.

I also love my FOXPRO. I don't use one more than another...it just gives me more sounds and more options. More things that a coyote hasn't heard from me before.

I'm sorry to hear about the patent problems. Randy has worked hard to get where he is in the calling world.
 
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Randy Anderson is a horrible person. If is was not for Randy Anderson, I would have never spent hours and hours outdoors hunting for meat eating varmits. I would have been content spending the late winter months sitting on my couch or sitting on a slab of ice with a short fishing pole. He has ruined many of winter days for my wife. He has also caused a few upstanding coyotes to perish at my hands. The man has infected people with a fever for which there is no vaccine. He is indeed, a bad person.

We should all be so lucky!

P.S. I put my kids to sleep with "Come little Coyote, come". I blame him for this as well!
 


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