Remington 700 Trigger recall

Originally Posted By: pahntr760I have very few factory triggers remaining in guns. And none of which haven't been messed with. It's part of the deal...

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You are right recalls happen, but Remington seems to have many!! I agree as long as we allow to put up with their bad engineering and quality control they will keep building them. I believe if we put their sales down they would produce better and more importantly safer products. This recall for SIX YEARS is not acceptable from a company as big as they are. This is not the first time I have had a rem recalled. As to just replace the trigger with an after market one, is that what you should have to do after spending the money they ask for the rifles? If that is correct and what Rem believes that will be the last Rem myself or family will buy or any organization I belong too. Their are a lot of people in my travels that think the same as I do that Rem is not handling this anywhere near correctly! Imo
 
I do not have any expert advice or have I eluded to the fact that I do. I do believe however if you are going to keep your customers you must have good Public relations when people that have your product call for information. I guess I look as things differently as some of you do. Many of the precision shooting forum have discussions of Rem having many recalls. In my opinion Rem could send out a new trigger to be put in the gun when the customer calls. That would be a faster return time for the person with there faulty equipment that did not buy it to have it useless for the first month after buying it.
 
That would open remington up to a whole different issue letting someone that is not "qualified" work on the rifle. I'm still curious what man recalls there are myself.
 
Yep, letting folks do their own would be a liability for Remington. This is why ALL aftermarket triggers state in the directions the trigger is to be installed by a qualified gunsmith.

Also, these are not all inherently faulty. This recall is more of an evaluation than anything. As stated many times, it's an easy fix to do on your own.

I think Remington is handling this exactly as they should. Return to them for evaluation/repair. I'm sure the lawyers have a good bit of word on that, too.

For me, I'd just do the work, or replace and be on my way.
 
I bet a bunch of triggers make it home set around 10lbs. A lot of people have the same idea on replacing, timney's out of stock everywhere I've looked.
 
Originally Posted By: 1badsheeI bet a bunch of triggers make it home set around 10lbs. A lot of people have the same idea on replacing, timney's out of stock everywhere I've looked.

Time to buy stock in Tootsie Pops!
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Originally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: 1badsheeI bet a bunch of triggers make it home set around 10lbs. A lot of people have the same idea on replacing, timney's out of stock everywhere I've looked.

Time to buy stock in Tootsie Pops!
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My Tootsie pop will be here tomorrow along with my 2# Timney trigger for my new 700.
 
Originally Posted By: willy1947Originally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: 1badsheeI bet a bunch of triggers make it home set around 10lbs. A lot of people have the same idea on replacing, timney's out of stock everywhere I've looked.

Time to buy stock in Tootsie Pops!
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My Tootsie pop will be here tomorrow along with my 2# Timney trigger for my new 700.



Bugholes has one left.
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First I have more 700's than any other make or model and have owned or own pretty much everything but a Browning (which might be next). I have Timney triggers is a few of my rifles because I didn't like the ones in the Ruger or the Weatherby just as an example. Before I started shooting and hunting I spent a small fortune racing NHRA and building street rods so I have been way down that road of customizing and building from scratch. Put 20 years in car dealerships (any body remember the Pintos exploding?) as a tech and I am well aware of warranty issues. That said I ain't giving them a pass. If the aftermarket companies like Timney can build a trigger we want why can't Remington? Savage and Tikka's seem OK. Remington should be leading the industry with best trigger out there. Oh and a quick one minute Google search for recalled Remington products.


REMINGTON MODEL 700™ and MODEL SEVEN™ NOTICE

REMINGTON RIMFIRE 22 THUNDERBOLT® NOTICE

LAW ENFORCEMENT REDUCED RECOIL 8 PELLET 00 BUCKSHOT NOTICE

38 Special +P CONSUMER NOTICE

.338 Lapua Magnum Ammuniton SAFETY WARNING AND RECALL NOTICE

.270 Win. 150 Gr Soft Point (SP) Ammuniton SAFETY WARNING AND RECALL NOTICE

.223 62 Gr (Match) Hollow Point Ammuniton SAFETY WARNING AND RECALL NOTICE

HORNET 22 PRODUCT SAFETY WARNING AND RECALL NOTICE

REMINGTON 17 HMR AMMUNITION AND MODEL 597™ HMR PRODUCT SAFETY WARNING AND RECALL NOTICE

MODEL 710 PRODUCT SAFETY WARNING AND RECALL NOTICE

Sorry I know its not their fault. LOL
 
I can google fine but he was complaining about many recalls, how many products does remington put out and how much of each product? Recalls are going to happen every manufacturer will have them is the point. They are fixing the issue, can there be a better trigger sure but that cost will translate into a higher priced rifle and people will complain when another $120 gets tacked onto a rifle. Most 700 owner probably don't care about their trigger as long as it goes bang and they can hit a milk jug they are happy.
 
Thanks Bowlseye that was what I was trying to say and had trouble. I too agree that other manufactures that are not near as big have products that function as they should. I believe that Rem believes that no matter what they do they will have followers. In the past their products were some of the best but I believe that is slipping and their market share is in jeopardy if they don't keep up the performance of their past guns. They can only live so long on their achievements and history of their past guns before they fall. I do also own many of their guns but lately have bought some of the others and have had a better experience with their competitors guns. Before 10 years ago I only owned Remington but in the last 10 yrs with their problems I have moved on to other brands with absolutely no problems with any of them.
 
Every single fire arms comany and ammunition company has had or has recalls. It's the fact of life.

Look at the nonsense with GM and their faulty ignition switches. IT happens...but thats not the point.

All the 'woe is me' folks complaining that Remington is not doing enough to remedy this situation. That is simply foolish. They are doing what they can to fix this.

Look at this site. MANY recalls for many ramdom things. Noone is immune. And with the larger volume of Remington's products, there are going to be more recalls. Thats simple statistics...

http://www.firearmsid.com/Recalls/Firearm%20Recall%20Index.htm

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.gunlawmatters.com/guns-ammo-and-injury-law/gun-recalls.html&sa=U&ei=J11XU77fM6ynsASLmYCIDQ&ved=0CBsQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNFTAgtOOwStbjXcVQYQvb_oAceCLg
 
Apparently I have 5 Remington rifles that have "bad" triggers, 3 700's and 2 Model 7's. All 5 are scoped and sighted in. There is no way in hades that I'm going to remove the scopes, box them up, and ship them to Remington for repair. Of the 5, 4 have excellent triggers, and one trigger has never suited me. I am mulling over my options, trying to decide whether to fix them myself, or replace the trigger, or do nothing.....and I'm leaning toward the latter.
 
Originally Posted By: NcWhitetailOriginally Posted By: ChupathingyOriginally Posted By: Troller1Originally Posted By: pahntr760If one can not disassemble, clean, and reassemble...reliably...a Rem 700 trigger, one should reevaluate their ownership. They're a simple design that is easy to work with. I am in no way a fan of the X-Mark Pro triggers, but they're just as easy as any other 'Walker Style" or the spin-off thereof.

How many people own cars but don't change their oil?
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Those are called women, we'll never understand them.


Chupa

I can change my oil and do other automobile repairs. But I HATE working on a car. I can go to my local mechanic get my oil changed, fluids checked and tires rotated for about $8 more than I would have to spend on oil & filter, be back home in 30-45 min. I don't need to get greasy or have to haul off my old oil. Maybe I should reconsider owning a car.


Of course not, don't be ridiculous. But you might want to grab a couple Richard Prior movies/albums, so you can be better at recognizing a joke when one is presented.


Chupa
 
Originally Posted By: green1320 Thanks Bowlseye that was what I was trying to say and had trouble. I too agree that other manufactures that are not near as big have products that function as they should. I believe that Rem believes that no matter what they do they will have followers. In the past their products were some of the best but I believe that is slipping and their market share is in jeopardy if they don't keep up the performance of their past guns. They can only live so long on their achievements and history of their past guns before they fall. I do also own many of their guns but lately have bought some of the others and have had a better experience with their competitors guns. Before 10 years ago I only owned Remington but in the last 10 yrs with their problems I have moved on to other brands with absolutely no problems with any of them.

Did you sign up here just to [beeep] and troll about the recall?

With an attitude like yours its no wonder why they treated you like they did on the phone.

Originally Posted By: green1320You are right recalls happen, but Remington seems to have many!! I agree as long as we allow to put up with their bad engineering and quality control they will keep building them. I believe if we put their sales down they would produce better and more importantly safer products. This recall for SIX YEARS is not acceptable from a company as big as they are. This is not the first time I have had a rem recalled. As to just replace the trigger with an after market one, is that what you should have to do after spending the money they ask for the rifles? If that is correct and what Rem believes that will be the last Rem myself or family will buy or any organization I belong too. Their are a lot of people in my travels that think the same as I do that Rem is not handling this anywhere near correctly! Imo

Go buy a BMag and come back here and tell us about bad engineering.

I got news for you. It doesn't matter if you buy a CDL from the custom shop or a plastic sps from walmart... It comes with the same trigger. They are not that great. It's been known for a long time, its no secret. Most guys either live with them or replace them. About your precision rifle forum comment.... I would bet very damned few of those true precision 700 rifles have the factory trigger still in them. I don't know a single person who in their right mind builds a custom off a 700 that uses the old factory trigger.

This recall sounds as if its more about the sealers used on the screws and the triggers going out of adjustment, not so much the engineering of the trigger itself. Hence the repair notes above.

Your not alone, I bought one a little over a month ago and had an extra trigger laying here to replace the factory one. Not because of the recall but because I don't like them to start with. You can either use the steps above to fix it yourself or send it in. Again Remington is willing to pay shipping both ways to fix the problem, I don't know of much more they can do. Whichever you choose.. Please quit crying about it, hike up your skirt and get on with it.
 
The exception, Furhunter, to not keeping a factory Remington is the old school Walkers that are alleged to start this whole fiasco. Ya know, the ones that go off by themselves...;) anyways, I like Flat Safety triggers. I have a couple between my Dad and I. They're easily adjustable to less that 2#, very easily. I have one, currently in cue for a light weight 243 win, set at 24oz, dead ringer realiable. I will buy any flat safety trigger I can.
 
Wow Furhunter do you work for Remington? I was just having a discussion and not once reverted to name calling or immature statements. By your answers I now know that you know what is being said is true by your responses. I did not mean to get you so mad with these truths but was just posting my opinions. I am done as of this post since we can't all act as adults!!!!
 


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