I have been coming onto these websites for several years now, mostly just reading what folks have to say, but on occasion, I do comment on things. There seems to be a group who seems hellbent on trashing Remington, and more specifically, the Model 700 rifle. This group very seldom, if ever, compares Remington with, say a Browning or a Ruger, it's always a Savage. They are constantly telling us how all you have to do, is buy a Savage rifle, take it out of the box, and without doing a single thing to it, it will automatically shot quarter inch groups, at 500 yards...no less. Now, I'm an old goat, and I can remember when, except for the Model 99, most all Savage products were cheaply made and looked and shot the part, as well. About 25 years ago, I used to help some of the locals with such matters as putting on a scope and sighting in their rifles, as I had a farm and a place set up to shoot. A lot of these rifles were Savage 110's, and to get to the point quickly, although they would shoot well enough to kill a deer, the rifles were, to be honest, a piece of crap. Now, I'll be the first to say, it's your money and you can spend it as you like.....on women, cars, clothes, guns, and whatever else strikes your fancy. And I also know, that these websites can turn someone who has never shot anything but a BB gun, into an "expert", who claims to own one of every kind of gun ever made. I never see a post where some Remington fan is running down Savage, or any other brand. We fans of Remington and the Model 700, know that we own and shoot the best selling bolt action gun ever made, and we don't have to resort to running down another brand. I also know, because I have an FFL and sell some guns, what reason a lot of guys give for buying a Savage....it's cheaper than other bolt action rifles. I guess that's why they then say Savages are better than Remingtons, it makes them feel better, because they couldn't afford a more expensive, and better rifle. I'm sure this post will step on a few toes, and I could care less. I'm just tired of hearing the Savage crowd constantly crowing about how much better their rifles are than Remingtons, when anybody that knows anything about guns, knows better.