Remington agrees to `retrofit’ several million rifles

Bout time. Never happened to me but Gus lived only 50 miles away.

For you 'muzzle control' guys : Where is a safe place to point a high powered rifle that may or may not fire without you pulling the trigger? Do bullets ricochet? Do they travel beyond your line of sight? Do they ever land someplace unexpected? Do they go up and then come down? Do they create dangerous shrapnel when they hit something solid close by? Picture your 9 year old son there with you when your hunting buddy is unloading his deer rifle on the other end of the camp, then tell me your ok with your 'muzzle control' solution to a deadly serious problem.
 
I wont be sending any of mine in just so's nobody has the numbers on 'em. If I replace, it'll be aftermarket anyhow.
 
Originally Posted By: hm1996Originally Posted By: vahunterMy 660 had a trigger recall years ago. That one is taken care but I'm happy with the trigger in my 6mm 700.Then again the 700 I have was made back when remington made quality rifles. Remington will never see that one.

The trigger issue pre-dates the 700; even 721's used that same trigger.

I'm not versed on the 660, but Remington's recall of the 700's only provided Remington an opportunity to clean and inspect each trigger (and replace it if potential for FORS existed at that time). They then "dehorned" the safety to allow bolt to be opened with safety on, which is definitely a good thing.

Regards,
hm

Yep thats what they did to my 660.
 
I used the Google above "here in Predator Masters" and searched for Remington Triggers. It goes back a while. It's worth the read. This is not new news.
 
I really hate to see an American gun company go thru something like the Toyota Lexus accelerator recall. It gives the anti's a lot of steam and really shakes peoples confidence. But I gave up on Remington after a few bad customer service issues. Got rid of most of my 700's & shotguns. I still love my Sendero but personally won't be a Remington customer anymore. Still have 2 on the new trigger recall....Why would I still want to do business with them ? Hopefully others have reasons to stay.
 
Originally Posted By: Orneryolfart357I used the Google above "here in Predator Masters" and searched for Remington Triggers. It goes back a while. It's worth the read. This is not new news.

Actually, this settlement was announced yesterday, it is the latest episode of a soap opera that dates back to the 1940's.

Regards,
hm
 
HM.. I should have been more specific. What I should have said is that the troubles with the triggers have been around for so long. Its too bad that it took years, and injuries and death to get them changed. As usual I didn't type clearly.
 
I'm sure glad I'm not the only one with that problem, Ornery.
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Regards,
hm
 

The case has been mediated, and as stated must be approved by the judge before it is official. If interested in full content of agreement reached in mediation, it can be read at link below.


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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT WESTERN DISTRICT OF MISSOURI WESTERN DIVISION

IAN POLLARD, on behalf of himself ) and all others similarly situated, ) ) Plaintiffs, ) ) v. ) Case No. 4:13-CV-00086-ODS ) REMINGTON ARMS COMPANY, LLC, et al. ) ) Defendants. ) _________________________________________ )

SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT
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IV. SETTLEMENT BENEFITS

51.

To receive any settlement benefit, a Settlement Class Member must first fully execute a Claim Form. Claim Forms are available on the Settlement Website or by calling the Settlement Phone Number. Claim Forms may be submitted online via the Settlement Website, by e-mail, or by U.S. Mail. Claim Forms may be submitted beginning upon entry of the Preliminary Approval Order. By Mail: Angeion Group Attn: Remington Claims Suite 660, 1801 Market Street Philadelphia, PA 19103 By E-Mail: remington@angeiongroup.com 52.



Settlement benefits vary based on the model and manufacture date of the Settlement Class Member’s Settlement Firearm as described in ¶¶ 53-55 below. 53.



Settlement Class A: (a)



Model 700, Seven, Sportsman 78, and 673. A Remington Authorized Repair Center will remove the original trigger mechanism and retrofit the firearm with an X-Mark Pro manufactured under the new assembly process at no cost to the Settlement Class Member. Settlement Class Members can choose either to take their firearm to the RARC for the retrofit or to ship their firearm to the RARC for the retrofit. If they choose to ship their firearm, Remington will send the Settlement Class Member pre-paid shipping tags, boxes, and written instructions. A current list of Remington Authorized Repair Centers can be found on the Settlement Website or by calling the Settlement Phone Number. Settlement Class Members must first submit a timely Claim Form to be eligible for this benefit. (b)



Model 710, 715, and 770. Remington will remove the original trigger mechanism and retrofit the firearm with the current Model 770 connectorless trigger mechanism at no cost to the Settlement Class Member. Remington will send the Settlement Class Member pre-paid shipping tags, boxes, and written instructions on how to ship the firearm to Remington for the retrofit. Settlement Class Members must first timely submit a Claim Form to be eligible for this benefit.

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Model 600, 660, XP-100, 721, 722, and 725. These firearms were predominantly produced between 1948 and 1982 and cannot be readily retrofitted with a Connectorless Trigger Mechanism. Settlement Class Members will be provided with voucher codes redeemable for products at Remington’s online store. A voucher code for Remington products in the amount of $12.50 will be provided to Settlement Class Members who own a Model 600, 660, or XP-100, which were manufactured between 1962 and 1982. A voucher code for Remington products in the amount of $10.00 will be provided to Settlement Class Members who own a Model 721, 722, or 725, which were manufactured from 1948 to 1961. These voucher codes are transferable, may be combined with other Remington coupons or vouchers, and do not expire. Settlement Class Members are not required to return their firearm(s) to Remington in order to receive a voucher code. Settlement Class Members must, however, first timely submit a Claim Form to be eligible for this benefit. (i)



Du Pont and SGPI shall bear the ultimate financial cost of providing these voucher benefits. 54.



Settlement Class B (Model 700 and Seven containing an X-Mark Pro trigger mechanism manufactured from May 1, 2006 to April 9, 2014): (a)



A Remington Authorized Repair Center will remove the existing X-Mark Pro trigger mechanism and retrofit the firearm with an X-Mark Pro manufactured under the new assembly process at no cost to the Settlement Class Member. Settlement Class Members can choose either to take their firearm to the RARC for the retrofit or to ship their firearm to the RARC for the retrofit. If they choose to ship their firearm, Remington will send the Settlement Class Member pre-paid shipping tags, boxes, and written instructions. A current list of Remington Authorized Repair Centers can be found on the Settlement Website or by calling the Settlement Phone Number. Settlement Class Members must first submit a timely Claim Form to be eligible for this benefit. These models are the subject of a voluntary Product Safety Recall (see www.xmprecall.com). Both this Settlement and the Product Safety Recall entitle current owners of these firearms to have their old X-Mark Pro trigger mechanism retrofitted with a new X-Mark Pro trigger mechanism. However, the Product Safety Recall does not provide for any other benefit described herein. Current owners of rifles subject to the Product Safety Recall may still participate in this Settlement. Due to the ongoing Product Safety Recall, the trigger mechanism retrofit for these models is currently available to these Settlement Class Members, and Settlement Class Members do not need to wait until the Effective Date to receive this benefit. (

See

¶ 56.) (b)



In addition to the retrofit, Settlement Class B Members who replaced their firearm’s original Walker trigger mechanism at their own cost with an X-Mark Pro trigger mechanism manufactured from May 1, 2006 to April 9, 2014 may also seek a refund of the amount of money they paid for the replacement. The

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16 Settlement Class Member must first fully and timely execute the Claim Form and any requested documentation. Refunds shall not exceed $119, which represents the most that Remington has ever charged for an X-Mark Pro installation in Model 700 or Model Seven rifles originally containing a Walker trigger mechanism. Refunds will be batch mailed four times per year. 55.


All Settlement Firearms: (a)

In addition to the benefits described above in ¶¶ 53-54, all Settlement Class Members who fully execute the Claim Form will be provided with an educational DVD regarding safe firearm handling practices. 56.


The Claims Period shall commence upon entry of the Preliminary Approval Order. The Claims Period shall expire eighteen (18) months after the Effective Date. Claim Forms must be received no later than eighteen (18) months following the Effective Date. Apart from the benefit in ¶ 54(a), settlement benefits will not be administered until after the Effective Date.

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2014/12/05/Remington-recalls-785-million-rifles/1411417822093/

Regards,
hm
 
I remember reading several years ago {20??} that the biggest lawsuit ever awarded to an individual {back at that time} was against Remington Arms and paid to a person in the state of New York. It involved I believe the Model 600 discharging when the safety was disengaged. The award amount was around 600 million?? And I read this in that years Guinness Book Of World Records. Anyone remember this and/or does it have to do with this case???? Am I dreaming???
I have worked on and adjusted hundreds of 700 triggers both new and old and never had a problem. I always tell customers that some will adjust and I can get them what they want but others will not. When this happens it's time for an aftermarket.
 
My 700 in 7mag did that once. Prepared to shoot at paper and as soon as the safety was pushed the rifle fired. The safety left a dent in my thumb that lasted 2 days. I took the rifle to the gunsmith and while I was there he removed the stock and showed me that a previous owner had played with the adjustment screws. He sent the rifle to remington and they put in the x-mark,no more problems. About 2 years ago I sent in 2 660's one of which has gone off on 2 occassions when the safety was released. They are now good to go. Under a 2 week return at no cost other than driving to the ups hub.
 
Originally Posted By: roky0702Remington issued a correction to this recall. They said CNBC erroneously reported the info stating all rifles from 1962 (roughly 7.85 million) are included. That apparently is false and it still only applies to rifles with the X-Mark Pro triggers back to 2006 like in the original recall. Here's the correction: http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-...0reporting.aspx

In the interest of clarity & full disclosure, Remington gives credit to the plaintiffs for their quick reaction to CNBC's careless reporting.

Having said that, call it what you may, the important point in this historical settlement, IMO, is the fact that Remington has finally stepped forward to correct a blotch on their otherwise fine rifle(s) that they have previously dodged for some 70 years, and that is a good thing.

A complete listing of just which rifles are covered by this recall, or "avenue for consumers, who have certain Remington rifles, to voluntarily have a new trigger installed.", as Remington prefers to call it, may be found in my post about four posts up, and, as I read it, covers many categories of rifles, not just rifles made after 2006. Briefly:

Quote:Settlement Class A: (a)
Model 700, Seven, Sportsman 78, and 673. A Remington Authorized Repair Center will remove the original trigger mechanism and retrofit the firearm with an X-Mark Pro manufactured under the new assembly process at no cost to the Settlement Class Member.

Model 710, 715, and 770. Remington will remove the original trigger mechanism and retrofit the firearm with the current Model 770 connectorless trigger mechanism at no cost to the Settlement Class Member.


Settlement Class B (Model 700 and Seven containing an X-Mark Pro trigger mechanism manufactured from May 1, 2006 to April 9, 2014):

A Remington Authorized Repair Center will remove the existing X-Mark Pro trigger mechanism and retrofit the firearm with an X-Mark Pro manufactured under the new assembly process at no cost to the Settlement Class Member. *

* Above is not complete listing of all firearms covered/remedies available.

Kudos to the current management of Remington for taking this necessary step in the interest of getting the issue behind us (them), and more importantly in the interest of safety.

Originally Posted By: Remington

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Remington Correction of CNBC Reporting

December 06, 2014

Yesterday afternoon, CNBC erroneously reported that Remington Arms was recalling 7.85 million rifles. This report was fundamentally inaccurate and, once again, CNBC did not comply with the most basic tenet of reporting – fact checking. Even a cursory review of the court filings would have revealed CNBC’s errors. That said, other news sources picked-up and repeated the misinformation about the proposed settlement. In response, the Plaintiffs’ counsel immediately took steps to correct CNBC’s inaccuracies by clarifying the terms of the proposed settlement in their own press release, which, in part, stated:

* These settlements are not recalls.

* These settlements are not any admission that the products are defective or unsafe.

This economic settlement provides an avenue for consumers, who have certain Remington rifles, to voluntarily have a new trigger installed. As noted by the Plaintiffs, the benefits provided by the settlement will not be in place until after court approval.



Remington is issuing this press release today because it is important that the terms of the proposed economic settlement be accurately described, as Remington does not want its customers to be confused or misled.



Further, and contrary to CNBC’s story, it is undisputed that the Remington Model 700 is the best-selling American-made, bolt-action rifle of all time. The Model 700 has also been and continues to be the tactical sniper rifle of choice for the U.S. armed forces and special operators and is widely used by state and federal law enforcement agencies.


http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-...0reporting.aspx

Regards,
hm
 
When you have one go off in the cab of a truck with you do to "FORS" it has a way of un-nerving (more like scaring the heII out of you!) and shattering ones confidence in a rifle.
In the early 1980's my buddy and I bought identical BDL's in 22-250 for dedicated calling rifles. We spent hours that summer putting rounds down the tube getting to know our new rifles capabilities without an issue. The first set of that season we walked back to the truck, threw two coyotes on the flatbed and climbed in the cab. I noticed his rifles bolt was closed and asked if there was a round in the chamber. He answered yes, but it's on safe. He was driving so I said I'd take care of it. Thank goodness it was 22-250, because it fragmented and blew up on the transmission case instead of going through and shelling the tranny.
 
Originally Posted By: RePete

The only one's that will benefit from this are the lawyers and the usual trolls.

I agree Charlie, as that statement is most likely written on Gus's tombstone.
 
Originally Posted By: RePete

The only one's that will benefit from this are the lawyers and the usual trolls.

Hey, Pete, if your comment was included in your original post, I missed it. If directed at me, which appears to be the case, you have apparently missed the point of the post which I thought I had been extremely careful to make clear.

1) There are obviously still some who are unfamiliar with the possibility that some Walker triggers may be prone to a dangerous failure resulting in "FORS".

2) Being uninformed in this case can be disastrous, thus, until corrected, it is important to keep on "beating this dead horse".

3) I think I made it quite clear that, with over 7 million such rifles out there, such an occurrence is not very likely, but still do occur, as witnessed by the failure of my 40XC and a number of others who have commented in this thread.

4) I have clearly stated that Remington makes fine rifles, and praised them for taking these steps to correct this safety issue dating back some 70 years.

5) I thought I had made these motives clear by posting excerpts from the actual mediation and clarifying some misunderstandings on the models but apparently failed to do so.

Originally Posted By: WilkipediaIn Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[

It certainly was not my intent to "start arguments or upset people by posting inflammatory message", and I don't consider the issue to be extraneous or off-topic to a firearms forum as is listed in the definition of a troll, nor was it my intent to provoke anyone into making an emotional response.

Any rate, if my post has offended you, or anyone else, I apologize as I have apparently failed to make my point clear. The post was made strictly from a firearms safety standpoint which I constantly point out as a firearms instructor and lifelong a hunter.

Regards,
hm
 
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