Ruger VS Savage accuracy
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tripod3
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I have not shot that Savage nor do I know anyone who owns it. The Savage has a reputation for being basic or even ugly, it also has a reputation for great accuracy with a large following. I did own the Ruger, it was piece of crap that would not group with anything. It was reliable at it too. I have known a number of guys that have tried them. Some swear by them and some at them. A hit & miss problem that Ruger is not ashamed of. The Ruger standard of accuracy is rediculous for guns returned as unacceptable by the customer. I think it is something like 2" at 50 yards. Rumor has it if you never clean the bore accuracy improves over the years. Ruger has a great .22 pistol & 10/22 rifle but that is where it stops for me.
greenheadwoody
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I am not going to dog the Ruger since I don't own any Ruger's but I would have to guess that the Savage would be more accuarate coming straight out of the box. Probably would cost less too. I like the Savage that I have. Take you pic both should feel your needs.
jagrdawger
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I do not own a Ruger centerfire, but I do have a safe full of Savages and they all shoot 1" or better with great consistancy. One of the gunsmiths that has done work for me had the same accuracy standards quoted to him when he tried to return a couple of customers guns.
Several things make the Savage inherently accurate:
1. They button rifle rather than hammer forge their barrel. I am pretty sure they are the only company doing this.
2. They do some degree of lapping on their barrels. Again, probably the only one doing this.
3. The floating boltface helps insure complete bolt to case head contact similar to a milled face on other brands.
Several things make the Savage inherently accurate:
1. They button rifle rather than hammer forge their barrel. I am pretty sure they are the only company doing this.
2. They do some degree of lapping on their barrels. Again, probably the only one doing this.
3. The floating boltface helps insure complete bolt to case head contact similar to a milled face on other brands.
i own 2 rugers, and accuracy wasn't outstanding with factory ammo with the average being 1.5 inch groups out of both rifles. (.257 BOB and .270) if you handload you can get them to shoot a lot better, got both of mine to shoot about an inch, ya just gotta find the right load, and that's what's so fun about it.
PurpleCoyote
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Savage and Ruger are bothe excellent rifles. I have owned more than one of both. I would not call either a piece of crap. Thats not good diplomacy. Now on to the ruger verses savage. Like I said Ive owned both and both have shot 3/4 in at 100 with factory loads. I now have 3 Ruger 77 MK 11
and they all shoot great. My Ruger MK1177 in 204 shoots one ragged hole at 100 with factory loads. The only reason I have 3 is actually a coincedince. I would really like to have a savege and a A bolt and a Howa and a Rem 700 BDL. Get the picture? They are all good and all accurate in my book. You just have tobe a shooter to tell it. LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Daryl P.
and they all shoot great. My Ruger MK1177 in 204 shoots one ragged hole at 100 with factory loads. The only reason I have 3 is actually a coincedince. I would really like to have a savege and a A bolt and a Howa and a Rem 700 BDL. Get the picture? They are all good and all accurate in my book. You just have tobe a shooter to tell it. LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Daryl P.
ColoradoOsprey
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I Had (read ...no longer) a Mark II stainless in 300WinMag. The 1st 2 shots would place within 1MOA, but the 3rd would always be a flier. I thought it was me as it was a very light weight rifle and kicked the living snot out of me. It would leave a black and blue mark on my shoulder after only 5 shots.
Anyway, I had a muzzle break installed to reduce the recoil, which it did dramatically, but the 3rd round was always a flier. I think the gun warmed up really fast and accuracy would suffer. If I waited 5 minutes between rounds, I could get all 3 in a tight group. But that makes target practice or sighting in the rifle an afternoon project.
Ruger makes fine reliable handguns and rifles. Savage has some issues with feeding from the mag and extraction; but I know lots of people who will put up a Savage in an accuracy challenge over a Ruger.
Anyway, I had a muzzle break installed to reduce the recoil, which it did dramatically, but the 3rd round was always a flier. I think the gun warmed up really fast and accuracy would suffer. If I waited 5 minutes between rounds, I could get all 3 in a tight group. But that makes target practice or sighting in the rifle an afternoon project.
Ruger makes fine reliable handguns and rifles. Savage has some issues with feeding from the mag and extraction; but I know lots of people who will put up a Savage in an accuracy challenge over a Ruger.
I've owned a M77 and currently own 2 Savage centerfire rifles. There is no way I'll ever put a Ruger up against a Savage when it comes to accuracy. With Ruger, a sub MOA rifle is the rare exception, not the rule, while it's the exact opposite with Savage rifles. The Ruger is prettier but is inferior in every other regard when compared to Savage.
broknaero
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First off I dont have any savage rifles at this time. But a HMR may be in my future in a savage. I own several rugers. Never had a problem with moa accuracy. I have a mk II target in .220 swift thats scary accurate even with factory ammo. A m77 in .308 that shoots and handles great. A 77/22Hornet I love that micro action, and it shoots good for a hornet, And my favorite for deer and black bear a m77 compact stainless laminate in .260. Its light and fast and very accurate.
I wont knock a savage. I've never owned one. But I dont care for how they look and feel. If they are as accurate as everyone says I may choose one with the accu trigger for my HMR when I do get one. On the other hand I will stand up for Ruger. For the price its great quality. The main complaint I hear of them is the trigger pull. Well unless your shooting compitition with this hunting rifle, then the trigger is fine. A ruger is just that, a fine hunting rifle. Never had a problem with a trigger pull. Never had a problem with the accuracy, just like all rifles you have to find the ammo it likes.
It seems Ruger puts a little extra in the looks and tuffness department, where savage puts more into the accuracy with that accu trigger. Both at a very easy price. I'd say if you want to split the difference, and have a little of both, take a look at the CZ's. You get a beautiful rifle, nice fit, and very accurate ( most accuracy problems with them i hear can be fixed by hogging out the stock a bit if needed) , and the one that I have in .17 rem has a set trigger that is so light after useing so many rugers, it catches me by surprise still when it goes off.
I wont knock a savage. I've never owned one. But I dont care for how they look and feel. If they are as accurate as everyone says I may choose one with the accu trigger for my HMR when I do get one. On the other hand I will stand up for Ruger. For the price its great quality. The main complaint I hear of them is the trigger pull. Well unless your shooting compitition with this hunting rifle, then the trigger is fine. A ruger is just that, a fine hunting rifle. Never had a problem with a trigger pull. Never had a problem with the accuracy, just like all rifles you have to find the ammo it likes.
It seems Ruger puts a little extra in the looks and tuffness department, where savage puts more into the accuracy with that accu trigger. Both at a very easy price. I'd say if you want to split the difference, and have a little of both, take a look at the CZ's. You get a beautiful rifle, nice fit, and very accurate ( most accuracy problems with them i hear can be fixed by hogging out the stock a bit if needed) , and the one that I have in .17 rem has a set trigger that is so light after useing so many rugers, it catches me by surprise still when it goes off.
Curt Barrett
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I don't want to knock Rugers cause many have had very good luck with them but I've owned several Ruger all weather rifles. Good handling rifles but the accuracy of the ones I owned was very poor. I also had a Ruger 220 Swift varmint model with the laminated stock. That rifle was a pretty good shooter.
I now have an all weather Savage in .270 and it is quite possibly one of the most accurate hunting rifles I've owned. It's was as accurate as a bull barrel varmint rifle right from the box. Might have just got lucky I guess. It is a fine looking rifle too with a much smoother action than the all weather Rugers I had.
Good hunting
I now have an all weather Savage in .270 and it is quite possibly one of the most accurate hunting rifles I've owned. It's was as accurate as a bull barrel varmint rifle right from the box. Might have just got lucky I guess. It is a fine looking rifle too with a much smoother action than the all weather Rugers I had.
Good hunting
Dogboy
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Savage all the way when comparing to Ruger.
It's just a big gamble you'll buy a Ruger and get a decent shooter out of the box.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
Seems since Bill Ruger past on the prices of his products just keep going up but the quality is the same in my opinion of course.
It's just a big gamble you'll buy a Ruger and get a decent shooter out of the box.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
Seems since Bill Ruger past on the prices of his products just keep going up but the quality is the same in my opinion of course.
BuzzBee
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The fact is Ruger is a lot more accurate then most of people think and Savage is not so ugly if your place is behind the trigger.
From manufacturing point of view, cold forge is a more cost effective system and yields better consistency, while button pull is a tad more accurate but you can have big variation from lot to lot. As for which is better? We can argue till we all turn blue and we still won’t have a meaningful conclusion. It’s like the Chevy or a Dodge, my answer is simple, both, and you may even add a Ford if your garage have room for all 3.
From manufacturing point of view, cold forge is a more cost effective system and yields better consistency, while button pull is a tad more accurate but you can have big variation from lot to lot. As for which is better? We can argue till we all turn blue and we still won’t have a meaningful conclusion. It’s like the Chevy or a Dodge, my answer is simple, both, and you may even add a Ford if your garage have room for all 3.
BrentWin
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I have shot several of each and from my experience the average Savage will outshoot the average Ruger. The biggest plus for the Savage is the Accu Trigger. It is the only trigger that comes out of the factory with a light enough pull to be shot accurately by a typical shooter.
I just bought one of those fancy Savage 17 HMR`s with the
thumb hole stock with laminated wood. The rifle is stainless.
The trigger guard is ruff in appearance. I don`t think its rust just not finished. It does have the fancy trigger though, like the ones on my Glocks. Well, maybe its not so fancy.
Last week I brought home a Ruger 77 in 25/06. Pretty blue job and nice wood. Time will tell how it shoots.
Two things you don`t talk bad about; a man's wife and his gun.
Not necessarily in that order either.
thumb hole stock with laminated wood. The rifle is stainless.
The trigger guard is ruff in appearance. I don`t think its rust just not finished. It does have the fancy trigger though, like the ones on my Glocks. Well, maybe its not so fancy.
Last week I brought home a Ruger 77 in 25/06. Pretty blue job and nice wood. Time will tell how it shoots.
Two things you don`t talk bad about; a man's wife and his gun.
Not necessarily in that order either.