Running wolves with hounds?

It happens in MN too, latest news Ive heard. I talked with a fellow some time ago that ran them. He said for the most part it was like running coyotes. Wonder if anyone else has givin it a go.
 
Circa winter 1971;

We ran one with two of our trail hounds. Just SW of Rhodes, Iowa. They were initially running a coyote track & came across him.

They caught him on the large hillside & did battle. The hounds came back exhausted & smathed/plastered in blood, mostly their own. The wolf got away. He was very large with a dusky Black coat.
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Seen a large cream colored one?[looked like a wolf]. About 6yrs ago. 2-miles East & 1-mile North of Green Mountain, Iowa.

I suspect, they were single nomads, passing through.
 
I've never heard of that but I have heard of many dogs being killed by wolves. I don't think you can run them really cause I think they would just turn and fight. Just my 2 cents.

Adam
 
Theodore Roosevelt wrote a piece on that once. I have a translation of the story, and as far as I can tell (if there were no errors in the translation and it was just coyotes after all) it was supposed to be timber wolves and there were two dogs named Old Abe and General Grant involved in the finale. Apart from them it was quite a pack of specialized dogs and in open country with horseback hunters. Don't know the original name of the story in English.

Anyway over here in Sweden the rule of thumb is to keep dogs away from wolves. Wolves are bad medicin for dogs.
 
Weasel is onto something.

I use to run hounds. I had 22 when I was at my peak. I had running dogs, mostly walkers. I also ran catch dogs with them. I raised greyhounds, greyhound/pitbull cross, greyhound/irish wolfhound cross, and greyhound/pitbull/irish wolfhound cross catch dogs.

I would suggest running a pair of good catch dogs with your hounds if your are planning on running wolves. They need to be able to keep up with the running hounds and have the tenacity and grit to handle what's at the end of the chase. I raised my sight hounds with my hounds, as they were part of the pack. They ran together on alot of runs and were extremely effective at catching coyotes. Alot of times a pair or three would rip a coyote into 2 pieces. I believe a pair of good crossbred irish wolfhound would be able to handle a wolf and protect the hounds.

Keep us posted, if you pursue.

Just my 2 cents...Tony
 
Two dogs keeping a wolf on the ground. Would be a site to see, for sure. Keeping a big coyote down is hard enough for any two dogs.

I spoke of a monster sized Greyhound 39" @ the shoulder. That would kill a coyote in a short matter by himself. After the pack of sight-hound's would put'em on the ground.

That same dog, once fought a 65lb coyote-X one day,[It was all Black with a White diamond/star crest, on it's chest]. They battled quite awhile. The farmer who owned that dog. Ended up shooting that wild canine. Because his dog, just couldn't kill it.
 
Some running dogs are big and tough and know how to kill a yote.These type could handle a wolf,one good throat dog and a couple very good kill dogs.Some of the big sight dogs we use go around 125 pounds these are the very biggest,most are smaller.But even a smaller throat dog with a couple real good kill dogs could do in a wolf--one wolf.But many times you may have more than one then your dogs would be in trouble.I have had three dogs killing a yote and had two other yotes come in to the fight-it get a little hairy after that.You would be in better shape to have a couple real good catch type dogs,some bulldog cross or dogo with some stag in them for the kill dog part.
 
Wolves seldom travel alone. A pack of even three or four wolves (most packs are right around a dozen) will tear up and EAT a pack of dogs.

It would be fun to hear from some folks who do that.

It's interesting that a lot of wolf hunters use a variety of methods to hunt them but I've NEVER heard of anyone using hounds.
 
I don't know much about wolves and readily believe Randy. With that said, then what is the purpose of the breed of dogs known as "wolf hounds?"
 
I'm talking about trail hounds being eaten. I'm sure a pack of wolf hounds could do some damage. Wolfhounds are in short supply in most of the areas here. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
Yeah there is a rather large difference in trail hounds and wolf hounds. And I agree any more than one wolf would definatly be a major problem for even several running (trail) hounds. I know 40 lb coyote put up a heck of a fight, don't want to imagine a what 80-100 lb wolf could do. Would need have to have a dog that weighs just as much, or its no match for the wolf. See ya, MOyotehunter
 
Last year was the first time we ended up running a wolf. I put my 2 hounds off on a coyote track which was really a wolf. Once I seen the wolf way ahead of the hounds I got my buddie to reless his 5 hounds aswell, to help out. The hounds hammard the wolf up over the hill and we had to drive around to the top. Once we got there we seen the wolf coming across a field with hounds behind about 150yds. The wolf then crossed a road and we drove up fast to caught our hounds. The wolfs are still here and been seen 3 times so fare and guys calling me to tell me about it. This year for running yotes might be something new again. Ha Mo this is yoteler Talking
 
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My .02 cents on Irish Wolfhounds. Their general nature, is not very aggressive. They "do" have the [size, weight & teeth]. To offer up a hard fight. But they are somewhat slow, because of their size.

Now, if you cross-breed one[wolfhound] with a smaller aggressive dog. With a bad-boy heritage. Then there is a better chance to have one that's packing some grit.

Any dog/hound, that's first on-scene. Who makes the mistake of not going immediately for the throat. Is in for some serious education, on a coyote. Let alone a large wolf.

Also, IMHO a coyote or wolf are both quicker in a fight. Than any coyote killin dog/hound, I've ever seen. Have you ever heard or read of a dog/hound running over 10 miles w/o stopping. Let alone 20-50 miles. That tells me of a coyote or wolf's endurance.

I have seen many Grey Wolves up close in pens. They were all massive in size[well over 100lbs].

The wolf, whom our two trail hounds caught & battled was very large. My Dad's large male Black-n-Tan weighed 110lbs. He was all grit. As well as the other hound. A Walker around 60lbs. Both dogs would plow head-on, right into a coyote. But they both needed some serious back-up on that big boy.
 
Kirby
You were saying (( Any dog/hound, that's first on-scene. Who makes the mistake of not going immediately for the throat. Is in for some serious education, on a coyote.)) THat is not always true. I got pics of a hound hammering a yote in the back end and did just fine. They were very smart in that situation.
 
That dog's name..."Lucky"?

Obviously, I haven't seen it all /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif. But from what I've seen "percentage wise". A dog will pay for their error /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

Seen a 13lb Red Fox, make a 85lb bad-boy Greyhound. Wail for his Mother, what are the odds.
 


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