I'll probably get bashed for this, but I am no a fan of NightForce optics. I'm sure they have a place for some, just not for me. The one I had didn't stick around very long. Clarity was sub par for me and I don't need a rough service scope which I feel they were designed for. That which I'm sure they do very well. My Big Sky allows me to see bullet holes at 200 yards pretty easily and I prefer clarity over super rough service with my rifles. Granted, they don't have the WOW factor of a NF but I still prefer them. JMO for what its worth.