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Originally Posted By: Retooferab
Your heirs can transfer without the tax being paid twice. Also just because you have an NFA firearm it doesn't make getting your next one any quicker. I have three and am waiting on the stamp for three more. I have three rimfire suppressors and am waiting on my first centerfire suppressor. I bought a Thunderbeast Arms 30P1 centerfire and have three Norrell rimfire suppressors.
You can google NFA handbook and find all the rules of getting and owning one.

It is QUICKER to go the Trust/LLC route over private ownership route...or so I've been told from people in the know. I didn't say on multiple tries.
 
It's getting to be a little quicker turn-a-round time than a year or so ago.
My neighbor just got one and it only took 4 months.
I encourage everyone to get one, you won't regret it.
 
Billy,
The best thing that you can do is to contact a local Class III dealer. They will be able to answer any questions you might have.
 
Yea i am going to have to find one in MS , never heard of one around close but i am sure one is somewhere. Heck i have to drive a hr to walmart to get beer. LMAO
 
It is NOT quicker to purchase via a trust, corporation, or LLC. It is dependent on the examiner. From the time the examiner gets the paperwork to approval is anywhere from 6 weeks to nearly a year. My last transfer took 6 months.

Yes, it is best to contact your class 3 dealer or the ATF for the proper information to lawfully obtain a suppressor.

Be careful of internet information regarding trusts, etc.

In some states doing your own trust is considered the practice of law and if you are not a lawyer. . . .

The ATF may approve a transfer of a class 3 weapon to a trust, but the trust can be found not valid at a later point and then. . . .

Just saying. . . if you are doing a trust it would be best to involve a lawyer, and at the very least, make sure you know what you are doing. I personally, would rather spend my time shooting my new class 3 weapon than sitting in jail or working a second job for legal fees.

Here is an information sheet from an attorney in south dakota.

http://www.sdsilencer.com/South_Dakota_NFA_Trusts.pdf



 
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Originally Posted By: okoyoteIt is NOT quicker to purchase via a trust, corporation, or LLC. It is dependent on the examiner. From the time the examiner gets the paperwork to approval is anywhere from 6 weeks to nearly a year.
I hunt and visit with my dealer almost every weekend from Sept - Dec...and have seen most of the form 4s done by his customers take in the 3-4 month range for the past year.

Did a trust on mine and was back in 7 weeks. He's never had any other kind back in less than 13 weeks.

This is just personal experience, but it would only seem logical that if the examiner doesn't have to do a background check, OR check fingerprints, or bother with passport photos...why WOULDN'T it take less time?
 
Let me ask this guys , i already have my Passport and TIX's card so my fingerprints on already on file along with my background checks , would this help the deal go alittle faster???????
 
Nope!

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Billy, were talking about making it faster to go the form 4 way like were talked about or faster by doing the trust?
 
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Ok thanks , i will just have to go to someone who sells them and get the info, i am lost as a goat with all this trust stuff. Thanks
 
Originally Posted By: cbass16Originally Posted By: okoyoteIt is NOT quicker to purchase via a trust, corporation, or LLC. It is dependent on the examiner. From the time the examiner gets the paperwork to approval is anywhere from 6 weeks to nearly a year.
I hunt and visit with my dealer almost every weekend from Sept - Dec...and have seen most of the form 4s done by his customers take in the 3-4 month range for the past year.

Did a trust on mine and was back in 7 weeks. He's never had any other kind back in less than 13 weeks.

This is just personal experience, but it would only seem logical that if the examiner doesn't have to do a background check, OR check fingerprints, or bother with passport photos...why WOULDN'T it take less time?

I did a trust as well. Took 6 months. Buddy who did it without the trust, at the same dealer as me got his first. Go figure.

I don't doubt that the actual time the examiner spends on the forms may possibly be less, but the examiner is still the one that signs paperwork and therefore is the unknown part of the time waited.
 
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Yep that what guys have been telling me to, if your bullet is supersonic a suppressor isnt much good.Goggled it also and says pretty much the same thing.

Kind of haven second thoughts on one if this is really true really not wanting to download my rifles that much, it will take away for range and energy the way i am looking at it.

Might be fun to have on a 22mag or something to play with but thats kind of a high dollar play toy LOL
 
Originally Posted By: WSMBUCKYep that what guys have been telling me to, if your bullet is supersonic a suppressor isnt much good.Goggled it also and says pretty much the same thing.

Kind of haven second thoughts on one if this is really true really not wanting to download my rifles that much, it will take away for range and energy the way i am looking at it.

Might be fun to have on a 22mag or something to play with but thats kind of a high dollar play toy LOL
That part isn't exactly true Billy.
You have two things that create noise when the round goes off.
You have the explosion of gases as they leave the muzzle,
and you have the sound of the projectile breaking the sound barrier.
We all know what it is like without a suppressor.
With a suppressor, the huge explosion of the gases leaving the muzzle are eliminated, but you will still hear the crack of the bullet.
I'm gunna toss out some numbers here folks, for the purpose of illustration. Just to convey a point.
Lets say that out of all the noise you hear when you fire your rifle, 90% is gases and 10% is the crack.
With a suppressor, that 90% is gone and you only hear the 10% or the crack.

I just shoot normal power rounds and when I fire it, I hear a very tolerable crack, compared to a 22lr, roughly.
On my AR it means the difference of "painfully too loud" to "that's it?" when you shoot it.
On the bolt it is even a bit quieter because you don't have any action noise or gas blow back.
Wished you lived closer, I'd have you over.

If you get one, you won't regret it.

THT
 
Originally Posted By: WSMBUCKYep that what guys have been telling me to, if your bullet is supersonic a suppressor isnt much good.Goggled it also and says pretty much the same thing.

Kind of haven second thoughts on one if this is really true really not wanting to download my rifles that much, it will take away for range and energy the way i am looking at it.

Might be fun to have on a 22mag or something to play with but thats kind of a high dollar play toy LOL

I think that is just an opinion. No, they don't sound like the Hollywierd movies. A suppressor takes the bang away. You will still hear the sonic crack of the bullet flying down range. But it is not that loud, unless the sound bounces off close objects i.e. trees, etc. I use mine on a .223 bolt gun, you definitely know when you get a hit. You can hear the pop loud and clear, with a suppressor. It will save your hearing. Hunting is the only time I don't use ear plugs while shooting.

BTW, you will still get the crack on a .22 mag as well. Only thing that is truly quiet is .22 LR sub-sonics.
 
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