I've read most of the posts now I would like to know what is the best one out there regardless of price. I'm aware of the WT situation and don't want to open that can of worms again. I'm just looking for a really great electronic caller with the volume and clarity and dependability to make the Predators take notice. Thanks in advance.
The Best Electronic Caller!
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thedave1164
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It's the Coyote Finder 2000, requires no batteries and little actual experience.
You see you take a bunny and a pair of vise grips.................
You see you take a bunny and a pair of vise grips.................
Curt Barrett
Active member
The difference in the callers you have mentioned is so great that it is like comparing apples to oranges. The only person I know that owned both is no longer with us now. No matter what you pick, there will be trade offs. If volume and clarity are your prime objective then WT is probably the only game in town. Sounds like money is no object so just get the WT and let us know what you think.
C'mon all you WT owners out there! The boy wants to see some pics of all the critters you guys have been bagging with those WTs. Has to be a bunch! Craig, Bob and Bob, show us some of those kittys and bears. Next best thing to getting one is looking at somebody elses I suppose. LOL.
C'mon all you WT owners out there! The boy wants to see some pics of all the critters you guys have been bagging with those WTs. Has to be a bunch! Craig, Bob and Bob, show us some of those kittys and bears. Next best thing to getting one is looking at somebody elses I suppose. LOL.
Steve Craig
New member
Curt and dPointer,
I have used every electronic caller that has been made, and some I made myself. In fact, my homemade tape player is lighter,louder,and only cost me under $50.00 to build, than all the tape players out there. An electronics engineer friend from New Hampshire told me how to build it.
Like I have said in the past, and I will say it again, I like(and now use) a unit that has a remote that will work every time from distances over a 1/4 mile if need be, weighs less than 5 lbs, can change sounds with the touch of a button,can store up to 100 sounds at the touch of a button, when the volume is turned up to full it will rattle the speaker if need be,yet NO distortion of that sound,uses real animal recordings for the sounds,has clarity of sound that no one else can match,can run all day and then some on one battery charge, has no moving parts to freeze up in cold weather, is contained on a fanny pack or over the shoulder strap, and just flat out works wonders on lions. If want the apple, buy the WT, if you want the orange, buy something else.
As far as pictures go, I have posted dozens of them on another hunting board, most of which I have removed. My clients, students and friends get to see them, and they get to see the WT in action. I also have 100's of feet of video footage of bobcats,coyotes, foxes, lions, and bears coming to the WT and they get to see those if we have the time when they are here. I have been advised to stop posting my pics, and I am doing just that for my own reasons. There are a few on my web site if you are interested in seeing pics.
In the last 38 years, I have seen alot of things change in this game. Some changes were good, other not so good. But the advances in the electronic caller industry has to be one of the best changes. I for one am glad it has.
Wiley, and Leonard, this is not a commercial, just an answer to a question asked. Just wanted to make that clear.
Steve
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I have used every electronic caller that has been made, and some I made myself. In fact, my homemade tape player is lighter,louder,and only cost me under $50.00 to build, than all the tape players out there. An electronics engineer friend from New Hampshire told me how to build it.
Like I have said in the past, and I will say it again, I like(and now use) a unit that has a remote that will work every time from distances over a 1/4 mile if need be, weighs less than 5 lbs, can change sounds with the touch of a button,can store up to 100 sounds at the touch of a button, when the volume is turned up to full it will rattle the speaker if need be,yet NO distortion of that sound,uses real animal recordings for the sounds,has clarity of sound that no one else can match,can run all day and then some on one battery charge, has no moving parts to freeze up in cold weather, is contained on a fanny pack or over the shoulder strap, and just flat out works wonders on lions. If want the apple, buy the WT, if you want the orange, buy something else.
As far as pictures go, I have posted dozens of them on another hunting board, most of which I have removed. My clients, students and friends get to see them, and they get to see the WT in action. I also have 100's of feet of video footage of bobcats,coyotes, foxes, lions, and bears coming to the WT and they get to see those if we have the time when they are here. I have been advised to stop posting my pics, and I am doing just that for my own reasons. There are a few on my web site if you are interested in seeing pics.
In the last 38 years, I have seen alot of things change in this game. Some changes were good, other not so good. But the advances in the electronic caller industry has to be one of the best changes. I for one am glad it has.
Wiley, and Leonard, this is not a commercial, just an answer to a question asked. Just wanted to make that clear.
Steve
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www.azpredatorhunts.com
I guess that this reply will deal with personal experience with certain electronic callers. Over the years, I've made my own callers and bought a few too. I've had good dealings with Nite Lite, Johnny Stewart, and FoxPro. The callers worked well and the people are/were top notch people. From what I've seen, I would not hesitate to buy the Phantom caller either. They've got a VERY nice product and the staff is service oriented, and polite and friendly. As far as, the WT caller, NO WAY! But this is my own personal experience with this "person." MI VHNTR
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Brian Bentley
New member
Easy MI VHNTR, you are treading on thin territory. The question had nothing to do with your answer. Your "personal" experience being what it was I do understand but we don't need to travel that path again. Just a reminder, keep on track. Your comments about most of the callers was valuable and to the point but the "Heat Seeking Missles" aren't necessary or beneficial.
As far as which electronic caller is the best. That indeed is a loaded question.
Truth be known the Johnny Stewart Caller has probably accounted for more animals over the years than most others combined. Plain and simple, "IT WORKS", and it works well. Is it the most Hi Tech and sophisticated? No. But it is more than capable of the job at hand for the recreational and professional caller alike. Because of the variety of available sounds and price it is probably my current favorite.
The WT is indeed a very sexy unit, but it comes at a very sexy price. I have seen one in action. I called alongside a fella with the WT. The results were this though, in all honesty. He would call one stand and I would call the next with my calls. Over the course of two and a half days of calling the WT called in 7 coyotes, hand calls accounted for 9. Luck to some extent I would guess but on average they probably work about the same in comparable country. The WT has a decided advantage in terms of volume and sound selection over Hand calls but it comes at a much higher price.
I don't have any experience with the FoxPro, DK or Lohman calls so I can't write intelligently about their value, but I would predict that they will work with adequate success. Many here use and genuinely like them. I am sure that they are spendid units.
The EDWC is relatively new to the predator hunting market but it's possibilities are encouraging. I have made exactly one stand with my EDWC, Thanks Bill and Tasha, and called a double. It looks to be very promising.
The only other electronic call that I have used over the years is one that I made using a standard tape player with an added horn speaker. It has accounted for it's fair share of predators as well. Not very sexy, but it works.
If weight is a deciding factor the EDWC or the Fox Pro are probably the way to go. The other units mentioned can weigh anywhere from 6 or 7 lbs in the case of the JS unit to upwards of 14 or 15 in the case of the WT unit. You make the choice.
So now that I have further clouded the water for you, I would only say this. Pick one that will work for your needs and price range and Go Hunting.
Oh, I also have one of the old Burnham Bros. tape players that I don't use anymore. The battery has died and I haven't replaced it, but in it's day it worked with measured success as well.
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Brian K. Bentley
Hunting is not just our right, It's our HERITAGE.
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As far as which electronic caller is the best. That indeed is a loaded question.
Truth be known the Johnny Stewart Caller has probably accounted for more animals over the years than most others combined. Plain and simple, "IT WORKS", and it works well. Is it the most Hi Tech and sophisticated? No. But it is more than capable of the job at hand for the recreational and professional caller alike. Because of the variety of available sounds and price it is probably my current favorite.
The WT is indeed a very sexy unit, but it comes at a very sexy price. I have seen one in action. I called alongside a fella with the WT. The results were this though, in all honesty. He would call one stand and I would call the next with my calls. Over the course of two and a half days of calling the WT called in 7 coyotes, hand calls accounted for 9. Luck to some extent I would guess but on average they probably work about the same in comparable country. The WT has a decided advantage in terms of volume and sound selection over Hand calls but it comes at a much higher price.
I don't have any experience with the FoxPro, DK or Lohman calls so I can't write intelligently about their value, but I would predict that they will work with adequate success. Many here use and genuinely like them. I am sure that they are spendid units.
The EDWC is relatively new to the predator hunting market but it's possibilities are encouraging. I have made exactly one stand with my EDWC, Thanks Bill and Tasha, and called a double. It looks to be very promising.
The only other electronic call that I have used over the years is one that I made using a standard tape player with an added horn speaker. It has accounted for it's fair share of predators as well. Not very sexy, but it works.
If weight is a deciding factor the EDWC or the Fox Pro are probably the way to go. The other units mentioned can weigh anywhere from 6 or 7 lbs in the case of the JS unit to upwards of 14 or 15 in the case of the WT unit. You make the choice.
So now that I have further clouded the water for you, I would only say this. Pick one that will work for your needs and price range and Go Hunting.
Oh, I also have one of the old Burnham Bros. tape players that I don't use anymore. The battery has died and I haven't replaced it, but in it's day it worked with measured success as well.
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Brian K. Bentley
Hunting is not just our right, It's our HERITAGE.
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Brian Bentley
New member
dpointer,
Sorry about that.
EDWC = Extreme Dimension Wildlife Calls
The are the owners and sponsors of this board and Makers of "The Phantom Predator" call.
Their website can be accessed by scrolling to the top of this page and clicking on the banner located there.
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Brian K. Bentley
Hunting is not just our right, It's our HERITAGE.
Sorry about that.
EDWC = Extreme Dimension Wildlife Calls
The are the owners and sponsors of this board and Makers of "The Phantom Predator" call.
Their website can be accessed by scrolling to the top of this page and clicking on the banner located there.
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Brian K. Bentley
Hunting is not just our right, It's our HERITAGE.
Jason El Paso
Active member
If someone need behind the picture talk about any product it needs to be done by e-mail and not put on the board. This is a rule. The owner of this caller cannot defend him/her self, and if they could it would not be allowed. Thank you.
Curt Barrett
Active member
dpointer, I use a Foxpro. I love it but still have called more coyotes with a cheap old JS-512. No remote. Just a 1 minute blank spot at the beginning of each tape to give me time to go sit down. Then I decided to lighten the load. The Foxpro suits my calling style well. I like to travel light. In fact I really don't like carrying the Foxpro even. In all honesty, I call more coyotes with plain hand calls than with electronic. Every time I use an electronic it is mixed with hand calling too. I believe that if properly setup the electronic call usually won't make the difference between taking a coyote and not. Much like decoys. The feeling of accomplishment is ten fold at least, using handcalls alone. A good open reed can do things an electric won't. Many will say BS but I have tricks that I will take to the grave that my Foxpro or a WT could never achieve. Don't care, I know the truth, that's all that matters. Never showed anyone and never will. Knowledge you work your tail off to gain, should never be passed on casually to another. Let them get in the field and figure it out too. You had to. Why create competition. We simply discuss howling and distress basics here.
Handcalls have the most reliable remote there is....your brain...and a endless library of selections. I guess what I'm getting at is if coyotes are in the mood to respond, a squeaky door hinge can bring em' in. Other times it takes a lot more.
Now having said all that, if a caller is spending any time calling lions or bear or other species, I believe an electronic caller is mandatory. The constant calling it takes to keep these animals coming make electronics a must. A Foxpro will do it too but WT has an unmatched collection of sounds in my opinion, geared for calling a wide variety of animals. Volume and clarity are far more superior. If I were guiding or doing a lot of work with other predators, the WT would be my choice. The new WT is very light I am told. That's a big plus.
Not trying to get anyones panties in a wad, just discussing products objectivly and politely here.
Take care all
Handcalls have the most reliable remote there is....your brain...and a endless library of selections. I guess what I'm getting at is if coyotes are in the mood to respond, a squeaky door hinge can bring em' in. Other times it takes a lot more.
Now having said all that, if a caller is spending any time calling lions or bear or other species, I believe an electronic caller is mandatory. The constant calling it takes to keep these animals coming make electronics a must. A Foxpro will do it too but WT has an unmatched collection of sounds in my opinion, geared for calling a wide variety of animals. Volume and clarity are far more superior. If I were guiding or doing a lot of work with other predators, the WT would be my choice. The new WT is very light I am told. That's a big plus.
Not trying to get anyones panties in a wad, just discussing products objectivly and politely here.
Take care all
Hello everyone,
I didn't get to see what Jason edited from one of the above posts, so I can't comment on what isn't there.
I hope the message is that there are a number of choices on the market, and a price range to fit every budget.
These questions are like what's the best deer caliber, a 30'06 or a 270? We all have our personal favorites, and it's seldom that we reach consensus, even if we avoid the hard feelings. Take all of it with a grain of salt, avoid the personal attacks and we will have a bunch of happy campers.
Good hunting. LB
PS I do favor the 270, by the way, if anybody cares
I didn't get to see what Jason edited from one of the above posts, so I can't comment on what isn't there.
I hope the message is that there are a number of choices on the market, and a price range to fit every budget.
These questions are like what's the best deer caliber, a 30'06 or a 270? We all have our personal favorites, and it's seldom that we reach consensus, even if we avoid the hard feelings. Take all of it with a grain of salt, avoid the personal attacks and we will have a bunch of happy campers.
Good hunting. LB
PS I do favor the 270, by the way, if anybody cares
Curt,
Some very good advice there. I held off on getting a electronic caller for quite a few years, using only hand calls. The experience that can be gained from using the plain old hand call is invaluable in my opinion. Having the experience with handcalls will help out when a caller does decide to give electronics a try.
You are so right about some days anything will work and than there are days when a guy is forced to try new things that sometimes turn out to be just what is needed to bring in a wary coyote.
It's kind of like an apprenticeship program of sorts start out simple,study your craft,and learn the basics,because you will need them down the road.
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Some very good advice there. I held off on getting a electronic caller for quite a few years, using only hand calls. The experience that can be gained from using the plain old hand call is invaluable in my opinion. Having the experience with handcalls will help out when a caller does decide to give electronics a try.
You are so right about some days anything will work and than there are days when a guy is forced to try new things that sometimes turn out to be just what is needed to bring in a wary coyote.
It's kind of like an apprenticeship program of sorts start out simple,study your craft,and learn the basics,because you will need them down the road.
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I really cannot see what the problem is/was with my first post. People are stating their experience with callers, me included. I stated my experience with the callers that I has purchased, and with the one that I was not allowed to purchase. There was no attack on anyone at all, nor were there any "Heat Seeking Missles" fired either. This is just to set the record straight. I would gladly give anyone the complete story about MY EXPERIENCES with the other caller and its maker. Hopefully, this is delicate enough, and politically correct enough, so as not to offend anyone. MI VHNTR
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So how about changing the question to what kind of electronic call do you now use and what call or calls did you used before?
I started out with a mouth calls then quickly went to an JS. After several years away from the sport I returned and went to a Dennis Kirk for the remote. Then found a source of the remote and built my own, wireless, sounds recorded on too and played off of a Sony Minidisk, two 25watt speakers, can recharge on cigarette lighter, the ability to power a 50watt light mounted on my rifle. I'm now thinking of adding a motor to the damn thing to run a decoy or espresso machine. weight still under 10lb depending on how much coffee you bring with you.
Second choice is my Phantom for light weight and the advantages of a electronic call.
But I never make a stand with out my Cronk's close at hand!!
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Keep your hooks sharp and you powder dry.
Wildoats
"The expactations of life depend upon diligence; the mechanic that would perfect his work must first sharpen his tools."
Confucius
I started out with a mouth calls then quickly went to an JS. After several years away from the sport I returned and went to a Dennis Kirk for the remote. Then found a source of the remote and built my own, wireless, sounds recorded on too and played off of a Sony Minidisk, two 25watt speakers, can recharge on cigarette lighter, the ability to power a 50watt light mounted on my rifle. I'm now thinking of adding a motor to the damn thing to run a decoy or espresso machine. weight still under 10lb depending on how much coffee you bring with you.
Second choice is my Phantom for light weight and the advantages of a electronic call.
But I never make a stand with out my Cronk's close at hand!!
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Keep your hooks sharp and you powder dry.
Wildoats
"The expactations of life depend upon diligence; the mechanic that would perfect his work must first sharpen his tools."
Confucius
Curt Barrett
Active member
dpointer, you did nothing wrong. All I see is some products being civilly discussed. Don't sweat it dude. Everything is cool....
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